Talk:Epping Forest District
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London Commuter Belt
[edit]"The whole district is part of the London Commuter Belt" - Is this statement really correct? As the district has a large rural area with small villages and hamlets. Just because a number of the larger towns in the district are home to people who work in London, does that mean the "whole" district is London Commuter Belt?(Spymo (talk) 06:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC))
- I live nearby and the impression I get is that a lot of people commute. A lot of the larger country houses are owned by wealthy city types. That's just my impression - it would be difficult to prove one way or the other. Alansplodge (talk) 17:45, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Epping Forest (district) or Epping Forest District?
[edit]I see that this article was moved from Epping Forest (district) to Epping Forest District in March 2012 - but was moved back to Epping Forest (district) just over a month ago.
Personally, I think Epping Forest District is better. I see no reason why "District" cannot be spelled with a capital 'D', and without parentheses enclosing it.
Feel perfectly free to disagree with me, though. Bluebird207 (talk) 15:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm guessing that consensus across Wikipedia is that "District" (or "borough", in some cases) doesn't form part of the official title of local authorities - and of course it can't simply be "Epping Forest" because the disambiguation is needed for the forest and for the parliamentary constituency. Richard3120 (talk) 17:58, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think it should be at Epping Forest District. If you look at Category:Local government districts of the East of England you will see that none of the other district articles with district in their name uses parentheses. Same goes for South East england. It's a very American dis ambiguities method, to use parentheses. I would just move it back as soon as the snow falls. CalzGuy (talk) 15:04, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, it's not that simple. Just looking at the local authorities within Essex, for example, the three with names that are unambiguously not related to the name of any major settlement within them, Castle Point, Tendring and Uttlesford, don't have "district" anywhere in the article title. However, the likes of Braintree District and Maldon District do, and most of the boroughs are "Borough of xxxx". And then we have Harlow and Southend-on-Sea, which use the same article for the town AND for the local authority, and therefore are also just the name of the settlement. Looking at neighbouring Hertfordshire, NONE of the articles use "district" or "borough" in their titles. There's a definite lack of consistency here, and I think I will raise it at WP:UKPOLITICS to see if a naming convention can be established. Richard3120 (talk) 15:33, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- Both Maldon and Braintree are dab pages, so under my reasoning you would expect the district names to be as they are. There are plenty of crossover articles which cover both a political subdivision AND a geographical entity. Most (All?) of the shire counties are like that. Surrey, Essex, etc. So it's no surprise that that districts and towns can share an article name. And I don't believe it has any impact on whether we should use American parenthetical dis ambiguities for Districts when dab is necessary. CalzGuy (talk) 05:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, it's not that simple. Just looking at the local authorities within Essex, for example, the three with names that are unambiguously not related to the name of any major settlement within them, Castle Point, Tendring and Uttlesford, don't have "district" anywhere in the article title. However, the likes of Braintree District and Maldon District do, and most of the boroughs are "Borough of xxxx". And then we have Harlow and Southend-on-Sea, which use the same article for the town AND for the local authority, and therefore are also just the name of the settlement. Looking at neighbouring Hertfordshire, NONE of the articles use "district" or "borough" in their titles. There's a definite lack of consistency here, and I think I will raise it at WP:UKPOLITICS to see if a naming convention can be established. Richard3120 (talk) 15:33, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Discussion is here for anyone who wants to follow and contribute. Richard3120 (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
I have restored the title to Epping Forest District. I have no strong preference for the capitals, but the local authorities commonly use it, so I think we should follow suit as they are the main sources for the name. It's not a 100% clear to me if "Distract" is a description (so should be lower case) or forms part of the proper name (so should be a capital). But there is an Epping Forest District Council, so it seems as though it is a proper name. SilkTork ✔Tea time 21:29, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]Rather than editwarring between Ongar Town and Walthamstow church, please discuss here.
It's a pity that this is a rather wonky photo, presumably awkward building to photograph, as a better photo of this distinctive-looking district council HQ would be a good neutral and informative choice. PamD 17:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale Why that photo rather than the long-established Ongar Town? PamD 08:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PamD: I have no objection to changing it to the Ongar one. Note that an image of the council HQ is already in the district council infobox just below, I was just restoring the image that it looked like you accidently removed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Given the editwarring about the image I thought it better to leave no image here and open this discussion instead. PamD 09:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Would an image of the forest its self be better? Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure how to provice an image of the forest that isn't just trees... there are images in the articls for Loughton Camp and Dick Turpin that could be useful. I do think a picture of Waltham Abbey church should be included somewhere, given its history and links to King Harold – likewise a picture of Greensted Church should be here in the article, as one of the most significant buildings in the district. Richard3120 (talk) 23:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Would an image of the forest its self be better? Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Given the editwarring about the image I thought it better to leave no image here and open this discussion instead. PamD 09:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PamD: I have no objection to changing it to the Ongar one. Note that an image of the council HQ is already in the district council infobox just below, I was just restoring the image that it looked like you accidently removed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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