Talk:Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Hollywood Hills)

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Rick James

Pretty sure Rick James was buried in Forest Lawn in Buffalo, not the one in Hollywood.

This site says otherwise:http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12177357. Here's a list of notabl;es buried in the one in Buffalo, though it may be too old for recent interments. [1]. Cheers, -Willmcw 23:03, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Here are some reference sites that show that he was buried in Forest Lawn in Buffalo, rather than in California (where there were indeed services held at Forest Lawn in Hollywood-hence the confusion): http://www.nndb.com/people/167/000025092/ http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1490143/20040812/story.jhtml http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9276693 http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14715,00.html (make sure to read the final paragraph) map

Historical gaps

The article supplies substantial information on the history of the site before 1927. Is that the year when the site became a cemetery? The article neither clearly states this nor even clearly implies it.

The article also supplies no information on why this cemetery is "dedicated to the preservation of American History" (Does this have primarily to do with the use of the site as a setting for "Birth of a Nation?), when particular structures and monuments were erected or installed, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.248.67 (talk) 13:44, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forest lawn before 1917

Forest lawn -Why the importance to the jewish Community and the film industry?

Carl laemmle thought the area was too small for this his ideas of "Universal City". Between 1914 and1915 "Universal City assets where moved to the lankershism Location.

Forest lawn / (Providence Water and Land Ranch) land continued to be used by movie companies until 1917

Lasky

The Providence Ranch land was then used by lasky Studios which later merged with Famous Players

"Jesse L. Lasky died in 1958 and was interred in the Hollywood Forever Cemetery in Hollywood. His son, Jesse Lasky, Jr. (1908-1988), was a successful author and screenwriter."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Lawn_Memorial_Park_(Hollywood_Hills)

Three of clubs

Not sure if this warrants being in the main article, but there is a grave marker on the site which has the three of clubs emblazoned on it with the the text "Is This Your Card?". The idea is to use it as a magic trick, by forcing the audience to choose the 3 of clubs seemingly at random, and then to somehow use the grave as the reveal. If someone wants to look up a source for this and put it in, please feel free, but I'm in too much a hurry to look up an appropriate reference. — Eric Herboso 21:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was put there by Penn & Teller; it could be sourced to their book (I think it was How to Play in Traffic). - Nunh-huh 00:18, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What?

Jenab Mehdi Tamaddon, Founder, Darria Enterprise? Why is this guy on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.246.31.7 (talk) 21:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the list was overdue for a cleaning. Red links removed. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 21:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Closed edit mode: suggestion

the official website provided in the article is wrong, the right URL is http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest-Lawn/Locations-and-Directions-Hollywood-Hills.asp --Deutschland AG (talk) 20:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson

Although he isn't in the ground there, the death certificate and his family confirm he is in a family friend's mausoleum...Can we add him...? JustW353 (talk) 06:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources? Will Beback talk 06:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20287787_20290579,00.html --seattlehawk94 (talk) 19:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

However the news now is that he'll be buried shortly in Forest Lawn Glendale. I don't see a need to report the temporary storage of the coffin. Perhaps once things have settled we might add a sentence to the intro saying that the cemetery was the site of a private memorial service for Jackson, and that his coffin was stored there temporairily prior to his burial elsewhere. Will Beback talk 19:55, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Will, but I'd go one further to say that whatever temporary arrangements were made are better suited for Michael Jackson's own article, rather than here. When celebrities die suddenly it's a pretty common practice for other celebrities to loan out their crypts while a burial spot is found. It's not particularly noteworthy. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 20:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I really, really, really didn't want to say this, but, honesty prevails. Isn't it significant that person allows another to temporarily use their crypt? I mean, heh, heh, there are dead people one would rather see wait at the memorial dump. But I am serious, in that it does seem like a profound gesture? Maybe not for Wiki, but at least for a hardcover bio. Piano non troppo (talk) 23:05, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I assume it's no inconvenience for Berry Gordy, owner of the crypt. It may be more significant then letting a friend park his car in your driveway while he's on vacation, but not by much. OTOH, if this is as common a practice as Kafziel implies, and if that can be documented, it might be an interesting fact for some article. "Burial customs of American celebrities"? Will Beback talk 23:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I agree. I was actually returning to this discussion to remove my comment. There are already good Wiki articles on Burial and Cremation. There's more information there than I needed, in point of fact. Lol. Piano non troppo (talk) 08:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lucille Ball

An editor deleted Lucille Ball's entry, with the summary Lucille Ball removed since her body was moved by her children in 2002 to Lake View Cemetery in Jamestown, New York. Would it make sense to leave the entry with a note, or create a section at the end for former burials? Will Beback talk 08:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Gibb

In this article it is stated that Andy Gibb is buried in Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Hollywood Hills). In another article he is buried in Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Glendale. He can not be buried in two places (surely). There seems to be some confusion. Which is it? The article on Andy Gibb suggests that he was buried in Hollywood. 77.167.212.162 (talk) 23:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he's buried at the Hollywood Hills location. It often happens that editors don't realize there are multiple locations, and think they are helping by adding a "missing" name to a Forest Lawn article. It can be hard to keep up with all the errors, so thanks for pointing out the discrepancy. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department: Please take a number} 03:46, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Map

Hi Wikipedians, I found a map on different sections of FL Hollywood Hills. Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills map Cheers! SWP13 (talk) 05:34, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Grave Markers

The buried are put in the ground flat on their backs, or cooked at high heat into an urn, both identified by a flat marker with a name and usual text. I don't know about others' thoughts about this practice, but many, maybe most, people like to look at upright tombstones, which is a centuries long tradition, and aids in wandering around and identifying the dead. Here, there is no simple way to do this, and one needs to go to the front office to get information and heavenly coordinates. One is forced to wonder whether the demands of a motor driven lawn mower were the priority. JohnClarknew (talk) 05:09, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. This page is for suggestions to improve the article. Do you have any? Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:03, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback Please: Removal of Second Paragraph

This paragraph has several problems and I think it would be best to remove it.

1. The first sentence is not cited, contains an opinion, and generally sounds like it's from a promotional brochure.

2. The second sentence should be part of a section about the subject in the context of a broader theme such as popular culture.

3. The claim about the cited article being a paraphrase is original research.

Forest Lawn – Hollywood Hills is a park dedicated to the preservation of American history and hosts high-profile events such as an annual Veterans Day ceremony attended by dignitaries and other VIPs[citation needed]. Los Angeles Magazine described it as a "theme-park necropolis", paraphrasing Jessica Mitford, indicating "Forest Lawn’s kitsch was just a sophisticated strategy for lubricating the checkbooks of the grieved."[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamboler (talk • contribs) 18:15, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's a lot wrong with the lead, so I deleted most of it. If anything is put back or added, we should discuss it here. The lead shouldn't take sides about any made-up controversy. Simply put, it is a cemetery, no more and no less. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 19:42, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My grandmother is buried there. WP:COI. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 19:43, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Silent Movie History

This section contains two sentence fragments. It looks like someone might have intended it to be a list. There are no complete sentences and no indication as to how this relates to the subject of the article. I would simply remove it, but there is a source citation (which I can't access). If no one can explain what this section means and why it's here, I'll remove it in a week or so. GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]