Talk:Kao Chin Su-mei

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Kao Chin Su-mei article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Actors and Filmmakers / Musicians / Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Taiwan Low‑importance

	Taiwan portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Taiwan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Taiwan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TaiwanWikipedia:WikiProject TaiwanTemplate:WikiProject TaiwanTaiwan articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Women

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WomenWikipedia:WikiProject WomenTemplate:WikiProject WomenWikiProject Women articles

Women in Music

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women in Music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women in music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women in MusicWikipedia:WikiProject Women in MusicTemplate:WikiProject Women in MusicWomen in music articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Untitled

The suggestion of being "forcefully" conscripted is POV. According to the Japanese they were Takasago "volunteers", and to some extent they were, though the degree of pressure could be debated. Leo T.S. Ching writes about the burden of coloniality as the driving force behind the volunteers willingness and even "eagerness" to join. The prospect of dying for the Emperor fit within the earlier Atayal paradigm of maledom and achieving valor on the battlefield. Many "volunteers" found it an honor to have their spirits interred in the shrine. Later Chinese nationalist narratives referred to this as Japanese "brainwashing". Maowang 03:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

maybe "forcefully" is not the right word, but they weren't "volunteers" like the french SS Charlemagne. And what does dying for the emperor have to do with their aborgine martial spirit? How do they fit together? Of course they were "brainwashed" into fighting a war they had nothing to do with. More can be read here. Blueshirts 03:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By that standard everyone who fights and dies for their country was "brainwashed" by nationalism. See imagined communities.Maowang 04:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

you gotta be kidding me. Japan was not the aborigines' country, neither is the Republic of China. World War II was not their war. Are you confused? Blueshirts 08:07, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Find press release

Can somebody find the original source for the press release by Mei Chin (Kao Chin Su-mei) at this link? Scroll down. It contains a "statement by Yang Yuanhuang" who is an Atayal tribe member whose family was involved in the Wushe Incident, and by Bunun Wu Musong and then a statement by May Chin herself.

http://tw.forumosa.com/t/tsu-chief-pays-homage-to-yasukuni-shrine/16977/12 http://tw.forumosa.com/t/tsu-chief-pays-homage-to-yasukuni-shrine/16977/13

I've searched online and I can't find it, perhaps its originally not in English but I highly doubt that due to the fact that it still retains the internal links to other websites as if it was copy pasted and the formatting included int he copy paste. And its also in perfect grammatical English which would not be the case if it were some random person translating it on the internet.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/detail.asp?ID=63832&GRP=B

http://english.sina.com/taiwan_hk/1/2005/0914/45924.html

http://www.japanprobe.com/2011/08/12/taiwanese-politician-faces-charges-over-yasukuni-protest/

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2011/08/12/2003510546

Rajmaan (talk) 14:47, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Kao Chin Su-mei. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://archive.is/20130209130324/http://www.worldjournal.com/view/full_entertainment/7797100/article-%E8%97%9D%E4%BA%BA%E5%BE%9E%E6%94%BF-%E6%88%90%E7%B8%BE%E6%AF%94%E4%B8%80%E6%AF%94?instance=en_bull_tw to http://www.worldjournal.com/view/full_entertainment/7797100/article-%E8%97%9D%E4%BA%BA%E5%BE%9E%E6%94%BF-%E6%88%90%E7%B8%BE%E6%AF%94%E4%B8%80%E6%AF%94?instance=en_bull_tw

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:51, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]