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Interesting link: http://www.research.vt.edu/resmag/sciencecol/AFDC95.html --Espoo 11:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about the relationship between gaming addiction and sudden death?: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/26/AR2006052601960.html There seems to be a relationship, even though no "work" is involved...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.211.185 (talk) 12:04, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a great and interesting page. My partner and I are working on a Wikipedia project for our Gender in East Asia anthropology class where we will be adding in information and making edits to this page. We are attending university and are just letting you know ahead of time that we will be adding in information. If you like our information please feel free to keep and enjoy it on the page, but if not, we please ask if you could please keep it on here until December? Thank you Smordoh (talk) 01:14, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Karōshi or Karoshi?

The article seems to use both "karōshi" and "karoshi" interchangeably. Is there any reason for that? Andrewski 20:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chances are it's simply a case of people contributing to the article who neglect to use the o with the macron. One needs either to copy and paste it or use the character map or an alt code in most cases. 72.200.151.13 (talk) 22:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Korea

The article mentions "Korea" a few times. Is this North Korea or South Korea or both? That should be mentioned, since they are separate countries.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloriamarie (talk • contribs) 13:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have added an explanation about why the operating system uses the name karoshi, is this good enough? Linuxgirlie 12:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just wondreing since when does North Korea report statistics on their work force and whether or not they work overtime or commit suicide from overwork? Angry bee (talk) 03:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since you mention about China in the paragraph below, I feel like since you mention about Korea and Japan in the opener, it would be a good idea to mention about China as well. Smordoh (talk) 14:37, 25 October 2016 (UTC)smordoh[reply]

Karoshi and seppuku???

"This term has special significance in Japanese culture due to historical traditions of seppuku." What is the "special significance"? I'm a Japanese, but I can't get the point.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.115.219.201 (talk) 12:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I agree it doesnt make sense—Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.61.31.119 (talk) 07:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it has more to do with the concept of giri, or personal duty - if an employee were to give less than his absolute utmost, the company might fail or experience setback. They would therefore lose face, all because of a single worker. Viewer 22:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Karoshi- the game

There is a game called karoshi that is heaps good. Admitedly the online isn't as good as the other version, but it is still heaps good. There should be some reference to this game, or another page about it 123.2.110.26 (talk) 04:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think mention of the video game shouldn't be listed as it is irrelevant. 12.129.97.254 (talk) 21:26, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"5 Cases"

In the second paragraph, the article states "Since the late 1960s, 5 cases of karōshi were reported in Japan." I believe this is either a typo or very poorly worded. Never mind that five cases in forty years won't get anyone worked up; the statement is contradicted further down with the mention of the 2007 statistics. Since I can't find the source, I am removing the sentence until someone can fix it. 206.193.237.67 (talk) 20:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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In China

In this section, I will be elaborating about the business culture and guanxi networking. I will talk about businessmen going out to KTVs and nightclubs, which included heavy drinking to network to help them move up the ranks in the business world. I give an example about a successful businessman having to be hospitalized due to the pressures of fulfilling his "guanxi." This ties in to deterioration of health, which could eventually lead to guolaosi. I look at it in a different perspective in that death by overworking could mean also taking part in risky behavior to be more successful, which could eventually lead to death. I feel like it would be good to elaborate on this and link it to another wikipedia page on this topic. Smordoh (talk) 01:49, 25 October 2016 (UTC)Smordoh[reply]

Additions to Media Attention (and a general edit)

Since the movie "The Forest" came out earlier this year, I would like to add it due to its relevance to the karoshi topic. The Forest uses Aokigahara, an area of Japan beneath Mt. Fuji known as the "Suicide Forest," as its central focus. While it uses that as a jumping-off point I feel like the references to suicides (including references to karoshi) would be worth mentioning due to the awareness of death in popular culture. Also I included the Chinese term 'guolaosi' in the introduction paragraph to follow the inclusion of the South Korean term for karoshi. Jaytayl (talk) 14:26, 25 October 2016 (UTC)jaytayl[reply]

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I apologize for the frantic series of edits, but we finally found a picture that won't get removed by Wikipedia. We're currently working on the page as a requirement for the class, but most of our edits so far have been minor tweaks. I just wanted to leave a note so there isn't any confusion! Jaytayl—Preceding undated comment added at 14:44, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Citation 32 gives an 404

Does someone know how to fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.43.216.193 (talk) 08:19, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 16:01, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Karōshi → Karoshi – WP:COMMONNAME in English-language sources. Present in English dictionaries: OED, Collins. Used without macron in many English reliable sources: Business Insider, Forbes, NYT, CNN, Financial Times. Opencooper (talk) 04:57, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per strongly-referenced nomination. Karoshi has entered English usage and appears in Wikipedia main title header Karoshi (video game) as well as in redirects Karoshi (song) and Karoshi Linux. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose fully spelling helps English readers pronounce Japanese words. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:03, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree with you in theory that long vowels are essential to reflect proper phonology, in practice, even MOS:JA says to go with however English sources romanize the term. Opencooper (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom, this is an English term as well as a Japanese one by now, similar to Tokyo vs. Tōkyō. SnowFire (talk) 20:18, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:USEENGLISH, as in English, the letter o does not have a straight line above it. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 13:36, 31 July 2019 (UTC) WP:USEENGLISH did not include the information I expected it to include. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 13:37, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Karoshi hotline

"From 1990 to 2007, the number of calls received per year decreased, but still maintained an average of 400 calls per year." Does this mean call volume generally decreased, or stayed substantially the same? Samuelcampbell22 (talk) 07:15, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The data leading to the map "Deaths due to long working hours per 100,000 people in 2016 (15+)" are obviously wrong

The map shows that countries know to have very high death rates related to overwork, such as Japan, as low. Other countries are rated as very high. Such as: Nepal, Yemen and Egypt, while intuitively they must be expected to be relatively low. It seems obvious that the data used to generate this illustration are not reliable. I suggest that the map should be removed. 130.226.236.6 (talk) 11:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]