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NPOV Dispute - Fighting Career

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This page doesn't seem to be written from a neutral point of view. Particularly, "He has fought in Thailand, Japan, China and many other places. Along the way Kit has established himself as arguably the best Muay Thai figher that has ever lived. With astounding victories over legends such as ISKA World Champion and Fairtex CEO Alex Gong, Kit has solidified his place among the world's best. Kit has dominated the Muay Thai world ever since." The word "dominated" does not seem appropriate. Also, who would say he is the best muay thai fighter "who ever lived"? Kit is obviously very good, but those above phrases are not appropriate. Perhaps we can focus more on his earned laurels rather than on subjective statements like "dominating".Tecknical 05:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)\\[reply]

It isn't neutral because Newgen1985 who is also 64.190.250.227 wants to spin it. I put proven facts like Kristopher being his real name (on file with the Nevada State Athletic Commission) or that his titles are from his ex-trainer Master Toddy or MTV and this guy deletes it.

This is also not neutral because Satanico wants to dull down Kit's accomplishments as a fighter. Satanico's writing is medicore at best while not focusing on Kit's fight career but rather gossip that is thought to be true. These stories belong in US Weekly not an encyclopedia. Satanico focuses on bits and piece of information that are irrelvant to Kit's fighting career and claims to be the know all be all of mixed martial arts.

Half the writing I reverted wasn't mine only stuff others added and you deleted because it cast Kit's fighting abilities in a bad light. Revise the writing style all you want don't delete the info. The personal info I addded about Kit is relevent because this is an encyclopedia not just a fighting resume and he is not just a fighter he does lots of media like Sirius radio and TV game shows like Fear Factor. Everything I add is factually correct and not an opinion. This isn't a fan site so you trying to manage good publicity for him is not warranted.

Satanico is claiming that this article should be neutral but at the same time posting a picture that is not neutral. the new picture is just a picture of kit by himself, not fighting anyone, not beating anyone, not losing to anyone. it is a unbiased picture. Also we all know that Master Toddy helped create the MTIA. But the title is not called Master Toddy's MTIA. it is simply a MTIA title. We also know Dana White and Zuffa helped create the UFC into what it is today, but a UFC title is not called a Zuffa UFC title. and no where on this page, http://www.mastertoddy.com/Fighter_Profile_KitCope.asp, does it list Kit's titles as Master Toddy's Gym or Master Toddy Titles. If one wishes to call these titles Master Toddy MTIA titles lets start using DSE Pride title and Dana White UFC titles. again Satanico repeatedly tries to put a negative spin on this article. lets keep things neutral please.

Satanico keeps putting negative spin on article. Repeatedly deletes neutral information. Also does not provide proof of any of his changes.


- I've changed the photo to a cut out version of the WEC promotional poster of Kit's upcoming fight. Thought a picture exclusively of Kit instead of him in a right would be better.

The article should be neutral and I have removed the tag. The statements mentioned above as biased no longer exist in the article. Also, WP:Fair use has tips on which images can be used. Antonrojo 02:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Insufficient context

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The article and especially the intro needs more background information. The average reader doesn't know the difference between IPMTO World Champion and Master Toddy Gym World Champion, or who Master Toddy is, or what a win at the 2004 Songkran Festival is and how it is significant. -SpuriousQ 04:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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A large portion of this article is taken from here: [1]. I'm removing the copied content for now. -SpuriousQ 19:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Down for Life.

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http://motocross.transworld.net/2009/01/13/down-for-life-fight-of-a-cause/

He's scheduled to fight this Friday at the Grove in Anaheim. I've got my ticket!--72.129.31.189 (talk) 12:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Who is this?

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And why is he claiming to be a muay thai champion? Why is this man, who seems little more than a MTV icon from what I've found of him, claiming to be a "4 times muay time champion" when he hasn't fought at the Lumpinee or the Rajadamnern, or on a K-1 ring, or even taken a non-Thai muay thai belt like the WBC's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.84.17.35 (talk) 16:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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