Talk:Pride and Prejudice

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Original title

I have heard that the original article of the title was not going to be "Pride and Prejudice". The article does not state what the planned original title for the book was going to be. Vorbee (talk) 16:41, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

You'll find the original title mentioned overleaf at § Development of the novel. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:21, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

omission?

I regret that you have omitted in the reception, the "annotation" I did find in the edition of the story by Headline Review. It told the "gesture" Cardinal Newman made when attended to read the story. He disgustingly threw it away from himself with the words: This woman will never have a "romance".

But perhaps it is "referenced" in the Reception History?

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145.129.136.48 (talk) 12:59, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Much Ado About Nothing

Naïve query: Why are readers recommended to see also Much Ado About Nothing?--217.155.32.221 (talk) 10:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Probably just another old rom-com. GPinkerton (talk) 17:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that must be it. Thinking about trimming this, if nobody objects.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 08:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Done.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 15:15, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Date?

23:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)Alanba42 (talk)

Right now it says "written by Jane Austen in 1813" Should it maybe be "written by Jane Austen and published in 1813?" Especially given the long section on the development of the manuscript? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alanba42 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC) Alanba42 (talk) 23:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

That's definitely more accurate. Should go in.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 07:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Yep, that's a fix. Good catch.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Another "Zombies" reference

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies was cited as most "closely represent[ing] the book.". Presumably this was a joke. The original version, sensibly cited to The New Yorker, claimed the laurels for Pride & Prejudice (2005 film). However the actual review doesn't bear out the claim either: "The new film of “Pride and Prejudice,” directed by Joe Wright, plays fast and loose with the novel.". Deleted.

References

--217.155.32.221 (talk) 10:17, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Change of citation style

Per WP:CITEVAR, I'm asking if anyone would be opposed to a change in citation style. I'd like to expand the article a little and I think it would be useful to switch to short citations, using the sfn template, because right now the citation style is a bit messy and doesn't allow to cite pages. Poirot09 (talk) 09:14, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Which option, Mr and Mrs, or Mr. and Mrs., should be used?

Jane Austen was an English writer, and Pride and Prejudice is set in England. Following MOS:ENGVAR, the article should use British English.

There is likely other American English in the article, but the inconsistency is clearest in Mr and Mrs/Mr. and Mrs. I believe the British form does not include a period after Mr and Mrs, but I'm unsure as I'm not British, and the edition of Pride and Prejudice I have on hand is American. Related articles, such as Bennet family, also have inconsistent usage.

I'd appreciate an answer, but in the meantime, I will change the American Mr. and Mrs. to the (presumably!) British Mr and Mrs on articles related to Pride and Prejudice. Quirk4 (talk) 04:07, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Never mind. I'll ask at the Teahouse. Quirk4 (talk) 04:19, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

There should be no full stop after the abbreviations, to be consistent with the British English as used in Wikipedia (some British people do employ them, but not here) Sbishop (talk) 08:18, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Quirk4 Your question at the Teahouse was vague but for the discussion here the relevant guideline (not policy) is MOS:POINTS which says Contractions that do not contain an apostrophe almost always take a period in North American English, but the point is optional in British English. Wikipedia is inconsistent, even in articles about characters from Pride and Prejudice. Compare Mr. Darcy with a redirect from Mr Darcy but Mr William Collins with a redirect from Mr. William Collins. In my opinion (I'm British) the more frequent usage here is without the point but much more important for Wikipedia is to be consistent within any one article. I certainly wouldn't waste my time trying to unify all the inconsistencies although such matters do become more important when articles are being reviewed for promotion to good article status. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't know about MOS:POINTS. It is easy to add/remove periods. On the "Advanced" toolbar, there is a "Search and replace" tool on the far right. Quirk4 (talk) 14:23, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Okay. From MOS:POINTS (which @Michael D. Turnbull linked below in a reply), it looks like Mr. and Mrs. are used in both British and American English. I was the one who removed the periods on the Pride and Prejudice article. Quirk4 (talk) 14:28, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Quirk4 That's fine and this article is now consistent. I don't think that anyone will object to what you have done here but if they do, please use this Talk Page to discuss the matter further. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:37, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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