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Soy milk and estrogen effects

This revert was justified because a) the amount of soy constituents, including phytoestrogens, in soy milk is undefined and certainly small, b) the effect of residual phytoestrogens remaining in soy milk after processing on biological activities of males is undefined, example here, and c) there is no WP:MEDRS review to indicate that consumption of soy milk has any effect on the hormonal status of men or women. Zefr (talk) 14:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't medical advise, it is an "In Culture" reference. Those research references can be removed, they were added by an editor named Anachronist. The point is that working class men usually perceive that those who drink or eat soy are feminized....and thus a "soy boy". Just for the record, there is a soy milk brand called "Happy Soy Boy" https://www.crueltyfreeshop.com.au/products/happysoyboysoymilk1l RomanGrandpa (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't any medical source to indicate that drinking soy milk has any possible soy-related effects in humans, so this is just misinformation and not "culture" worth including, WP:UNDUE. Zefr (talk) 03:19, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If it is a cultural reference not worth including, then I'm not certain how a whole other article was derived about it.. soy boy .... RomanGrandpa (talk) 16:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah RomanGrandpa is totally right here. Claiming that this is not a notable reference is internally inconsistent. Guenonposter (talk) 15:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are not any reviews of clinical trials regarding soy milk in the medical literature apart from this one [1]. It was published in the Journal of Functional Foods. I raised a question about this journal at the Medicine Noticeboard a while back and I was told it is a reliable journal. However, when I look at the authors it is always the same arabic authors and hundreds of these reviews seem to be published every year in this journal for every sort of food out there which is interesting but basically they all pretty much conclude most legumes, nuts and vegetables are good for cardiovascular health but longer clinical trials are needed. It is the same thing every-time. I have given up reading the journal. Not learning anything new. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:26, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This NLM report shows the Journal of Functional Foods is not Medline-indexed, which means the journal does not have sufficient history of quality publishing or editorial standards to be followed in Medline - nor used as a reliable source for Wikipedia, as indicated in this guide for medical and nutrition editors. Zefr (talk) 21:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]