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Current Wiki Article Text:

Current touring members

Stephen Aiello – bass guitar, keyboards, backing vocals (2013–present)

- Please change "Stephen Aiello" to "Stephen "Stevie" Aiello" because it is properly cited that way by established sources as well as Wikipedia.

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TheStillSea (talk) 19:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done Stickee (talk) 23:14, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Genres

I'm probably wasting my time. But why are aren't genres like Electronic rock, Synthpop, Space rock and Experimental rock added as genres that 30stm known for????? Someone please answer J.A.F (talk) 14:59, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Camp Mars

Please add that "Camp Mars" was on August 22-24 and had activities led by the band members^[1] Katiejay14 (talk) 02:14, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Kate[reply]

References

^ Billboard (6/27/15). "Noted". Billboard. 127 (19): 18. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Adding genres

I feel it is nessasary and would like to add genres like Space rock, Experimental rock, Electronic rock and New prog (Progressive rock) to this page as these are genres that are typical to Thirty Seconds To Mars. The band deserves to be noted with these genres on this page. I would really love to here any replies or opinions from others people who do or do not support this notion. J.A.F (talk) 15:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The text states "Thirty Seconds to Mars then moved to Universal Music and released the fourth album, Love, Lust, Faith and Dreams (2013), to critical and commercial success." It was not a critical success. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album received an average score of 62. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.64.74.12 (talk) 14:48, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

critical success

The text states "Thirty Seconds to Mars then moved to Universal Music and released the fourth album, Love, Lust, Faith and Dreams (2013), to critical and commercial success." It was not a critical success. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album received an average score of 62. 164.64.74.12 (talk) 14:49, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Genres

Genres such as experimental rock, progressive rock and electronic rock should be added to the info box. These three genres are sourced in the musical style section. Alternative rock on it's own does not describe their sound very well. Having more than one genre in the info box is okay. Per Template:Infobox musical artist it is preferred to have 2-4 genres if there are that many genres applicable to the info box, which in Thirty Seconds to Mars' case there are. Bowling is life (talk) 22:41, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Please edit "Following the announcement, MTV unveiled that Thirty Seconds to Mars will perform at the 2017 MTV Video Music Awards.[72]" to state "Following the announcement, MTV unveiled that Thirty Seconds to Mars would perform at the 2017 Video Music Awards. On August 27th 2017, Thirty Seconds to Mars performed "Walk On Water" at the awards show with special guest Travis Scott. They used FLIR Systems to create a uniquely styled performance. <http://www.mtv.com/news/3032685/thirty-seconds-to-mars-travis-scott-walk-on-water-vmas-2017/>" Phoebegrigor99 (talk) 11:05, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 11:40, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:59, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fifth studio album (2018)

As their newest single "Dangerous Night" was released on January 25th 2018, the name of their fifth studio album was revealed to be AMERICA.

^[1]LivieP3 (talk) 17:29, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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^ "Thirty Seconds To Mars - Dangerous Night (Audio)". YouTube. ThirtySecondsToMarsVEVO. 25 January 2018. Retrieved 25 January 2018.

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I want to add electronic rock to their genres list 108.5.67.171 (talk) 01:10, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:32, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline

I am wondering why this page lacks in (band members) timeline? Every so often I see being one made it gets removed quickly. Just want to know why. 129.78.56.195 (talk) 23:19, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have just recently created a timeline, listing all members. If for whatever reason if this page should not have a timeline, please feel free to discuss, instead of removing. ❂string DTD❂ 00:55, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Per policy, a timeline should include only the official members of a band and not the live personnel. This band has had a total of five members only, so there's really no need to have a timeline like that. The one created by stringDTD also gives some incorrect informations about the instruments played by the band members.--Earthh (talk) 18:40, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Band Name

The current text describes the band name as coming from a rare manuscript. That seems to be utter nonsense based on a quick Google search, which returns references to its being made-up. The Google hits that do refer to it all read like a Snopes example of urban myth: well there was some highly respected person, so a professor, at some famous place you have heard of, so Harvard, who had a manuscript but it was special and, umm, really rare so that's why only really privileged people know about it. The author is never named, the time period is never acknowledged, the central thesis or purpose is unlisted, the proposed title would be far too short for a scholarly work, and so on. (How in the world would a document from a modern college become a 'rare manuscript' with no documented copies?) Just because the notoriously unreliable Jaret Leto says it is real, does not make it so. Can someone fix this made-up, not-credibly-documented nonsense from propagating in Wikipedia? 24.224.227.214 (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a chance that it is a reference to '30 seconds to Marshalls', the clothing store that sells other companies 'seconds'. 178.212.120.77 (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is or are

@209899Geovanni: This article's subject is an American band, and in American English collective nouns such as bands are treated as singular in regards to is/are, compared to the British English convention of treating them as plural in regards to is/are (see for example the American style guide MLA, Grammarly, and a Britannica "Ask the Editor" answer). This is reflected on Wikipedia, and seen in featured articles which go through a rigorous review process, such as the British band U2 (plural) and the American band Metallica (singular). Wikipedia has a Manual of Style that helps determine which variant of English to use, usually retaining the existing convention unless the subject has strong national ties that would warrant a change, but that should be done through consensus on the talk page first. As an American band this article's subject has no strong national ties to any countries that use British English, so the existing convention (American English) should be retained. If you believe the article should be changed, please use the talk page and obtain a consensus for those preferred changes before continuing to attempt to change the article further. Thank you. - Aoidh (talk) 05:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Tstm" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Tstm has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 5 § Tstm until a consensus is reached. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 17:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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