Talk:Thomas H. Brylawski
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[edit]Brylawski is notable under WP:NPROF criteria C1. He is highly cited in a low-citation field; C1 is further supported by the memorial conference and memorial journal issue.
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Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:17, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Assault case
[edit]A recent IP editor added to the article that Brylawski was charged in 1995 with assault on his girlfriend at the time, sourced to a contemporaneous issue of the Chapel Hill campus newspaper [1]. I wasn't able to find any other coverage of the case, nor evidence of conviction or university disciplinary action. If this were a WP:BLP, then we would need to remove this information with speed; for a biography of a non-living person, I still think it is probably WP:UNDUE without stronger sourcing or probably a conviction/similar. Pinging for a second opinion @David Eppstein: who has greater experience with math biographies than I, and who may have better Google-fu than I for finding sources; also @Mvitulli: who has shown interest both in math biographies and in professional situations where men behave badly. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 10:21, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Agree, without resolution of the case, wider coverage, or reliable sourcing that this actually affected his career this appears undue. I think that because it is not a BLP it does not need revision-deletion. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:42, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Chapel Hill has a long history of cover-ups of these cases: https://www.msnbc.com/melissa-harris-perry/rape-isnt-football-game-unc-surv-msna20203 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C4:C400:4A0:65A0:BB2C:DF36:D603 (talk) 19:41, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- I undid the revision. I think the final determination should be made by groups outside of the academic field and without connections in math (i.e. potential colleagues). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C4:C400:4A0:65A0:BB2C:DF36:D603 (talk) 20:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has a long history of not including criminal accusations against people who have not actually been convicted of a crime, when the accusations themselves are not a significantly higher-profile story than this one. See WP:BLPCRIME. The only reason we are having a discussion rather than immediately determining that you are in serious violation of Wikipedia's policies is that Brylawski is not still living. Call it a cover-up if you wish but demanding that only the ignorant participate in such decisions is also not how Wikipedia works. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:22, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- biased and reported — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C4:C400:4A0:65A0:BB2C:DF36:D603 (talk) 22:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- biased and reported. Undid revisions again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C4:C400:4A0:65A0:BB2C:DF36:D603 (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- I undid the revision. I think the final determination should be made by groups outside of the academic field and without connections in math (i.e. potential colleagues). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C4:C400:4A0:65A0:BB2C:DF36:D603 (talk) 20:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Chapel Hill has a long history of cover-ups of these cases: https://www.msnbc.com/melissa-harris-perry/rape-isnt-football-game-unc-surv-msna20203 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C4:C400:4A0:65A0:BB2C:DF36:D603 (talk) 19:41, 7 November 2021 (UTC)