Jump to content

Talk:Tropical Storm Allison

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Former featured articleTropical Storm Allison is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on December 19, 2007.
Did You KnowOn this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 15, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
July 2, 2006Featured article candidatePromoted
January 15, 2022Featured article reviewDemoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 25, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that during the unusually long 15-day track of Tropical Storm Allison, the storm attained tropical or subtropical storm status on three separate occasions?
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on June 5, 2012, June 5, 2014, and June 5, 2020.
Current status: Former featured article

older entries

[edit]

It looks like she struck NORTHEAST Texas initially, not SOUTHEAST. Someone may want to verify.

NWS reports

[edit]

If they are not already, these should be included in the article. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of an Allison image?

[edit]

How/when did this happen? And why? I thought we were quite careful considering the source of images of tropical cyclones. Almost all within the project are from the U. S. government, and free to use. Thegreatdr 20:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The image, I believe, was a fair use image from a Dallas office, or something; it had been there since early in the article's history, before we became really careful with images. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics Check?

[edit]

Under "Impact-Texas" we have the following (emphasis mine):

Houston experienced torrential rainfall in a short amount of time. 6.3 inches (160 mm) fell in just one hour, while 28.5 inches (724 mm) fell in only 12 hours. The six-day rainfall in Houston amounted to 38.6 inches (980 mm).[14] Two-thirds of the bayous and creeks in Harris County experienced 500-year flood events. Houston, which typically receives 46.07 inches (1170 mm) of rain in a year, experienced 35.7% of its expected total in the first nine days of June.[1]

If the yearly average is 46.07", and the 6 day rainfall is 38.6", shouldn't the % of expected total rainfall received be much higher than 35.7%? But one would need to verify figures against sources and the days included in rainfall totals vs. "first nine days" before editing and don't have time, just noticed seems off.

I finally fixed this problem. The 38.6" was not at IAH (Houston Intercontinental), while the other percentage stat is relevant at IAH. I'm shocked this apparent and obvious-looking error survived FAC. More precision was needed when indicating various rainfall values around Houston, because the two lines indicating data were relevant for two different sites...it was easy to read in that both values were for the same location. Perhaps the whole article should be rechecked if this problem survived. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Block

[edit]

I think we should semi-protect this article. in the past couple days,we have seen a lot of vandalism to this page. How do you block? Juliancolton (talk) 18:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Protecting can only be done by an admin. My understanding is that articles featured on the main page are rarely protected. However, the article will only be on the main page for about 5 1/2 more hours. The vandalism should stop after it is de-featured. --Evb-wiki (talk) 18:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, it is not supposed to be protected. What would you think of Wikipedia, knowing that one can edit any article, when you can't edit the article on the main page? --Hurricanehink (talk) 20:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, I never knew how much a page is vandalized when it gets to the main page. I have reverted at least 3, and there have been at least a dozen more casses. Juliancolton (talk) 21:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"30,000 became homeless after the flooding destroyed 2,744 homes"

[edit]

So the average flooded home had more than 10 residents? That seems unlikely in urban America. Plasticup T/C 16:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apartments? This was, after all, in downtown Houston. 208.120.45.87 (talk) 03:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeh that needs to be made clearer. Maybe: "30,000 became homeless after the flooding Allison caused destroyed around 2,744 homes. However the amount of homes may be higher due to Apartments etc etc." User:Itfc+canes=me Talk Sign me! Its good to be back! 16:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Street art

[edit]

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also:

WhisperToMe (talk) 07:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on Tropical Storm Allison. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 09:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on Tropical Storm Allison. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 23:20, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 29 external links on Tropical Storm Allison. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 16:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New Storm Archive

[edit]

I recently found the storm's archives, which enables the removal of a considerable number of dead links. I have already relinked reference 11 to the archive and removed the dead link tag. Now I don't have the time to do it all myself, and I'm not sure if it is necessary or not, but figured that getting rid of link rot is always a good idea. If anyone could help, please do. Jerrytheman9 (talk) 23:47, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Tropical Storm Allison. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:07, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Tropical Storm Allison. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:18, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Tropical Storm Allison. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:43, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns with WP:FACR #1c

[edit]

This older FA does not seem to be a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature as required by WP:FACR #1c. In its current state, this is built almost entirely on government reports. However, there is a decent amount of scholarly literature about this topic, such as this from the Journal of Hydrological Engineering, this from Quaternary Research, this from National Hazards Review, this from the International Journal of Hygiene and Environmental Health, this from the Institute of Transportation Engineers, this from the Journal of Hydrological Engineers, and much more. Given that I found these all in about 10 minutes is a pretty clear sign this is lacking a lot of scholarly coverage, and does not meet the FA criteria. Hog Farm Talk 04:54, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm: I would argue that after spot checking a few of those scholarly articles you linked to, it seems that most of those articles are only tangibly connected to Alison. Jason Rees (talk) 05:57, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jason Rees: - I think there's also an expectation to use the scholarly literature, if it is present. While this isn't focused on all aspects of Allison, it's a decent peer-reviewed piece covering the aftermath on the storm on infrastructure. This book devotes an entire chapter to flash flooding resulting from the storm (I can access most of the chapter through Gbooks preview, so hopefully it is previewable for others, too. While this isn't exclusively about Allison, it does contain some good content about forecasting Allison. I can only get the abstract of this, but the abstract suggests that it likely has some content about storm damage from Allison. That isn't a whole lot of sources, but that's from only a fairly brief search, so I think it's safe to say that there is academic coverage about TS Allison, and that said academic coverage is not incorporated well into the article in its current state. Hog Farm Talk 21:22, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More relevant material can be found here as well. NoahTalk 21:44, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CCI check

[edit]

On the FAR talk page: Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Tropical Storm Allison/archive1 SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:45, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to merge Effects of Tropical Storm Allison in Texas

[edit]
CONSENSUS EXISTS
Consensus for a merge exists. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The main Allison article isn't very long, just under 4,000 words. Since Texas constituted the majority of the impact, then it would be useful to add the information from Effects of Tropical Storm Allison in Texas to the main article. I propose merging the sub-article with the main Allison article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I didn't realize that Allison has a sub-article for the Texan impacts until now. The sub-article is quite short compared to others just like it, and can easily be merged into the main article with no problem. ~ Sandy14156 (Talk ✉️) 02:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above --ZZZ'S 05:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I was also unaware of this sub-article and it could be easily merged into the main article. Shmego (talk) 13:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support The articles can be easily merged without breaking Wikipedia's guidelines. ✶Quxyz✶ 00:54, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Zzzs 🌀TyphoonAmpil🌀 talk 09:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tropical_Storm_Allison&oldid=1242235038"