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Language

Does he speak English or is Armando Estrada his translator? Is He American? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DXSuperkick (talk • contribs) 03:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of course he speaks English, it's a gimmick, and monsters don't talk much. TonyFreakinAlmeida 17:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He was caught speaking English backstage to Hogan on an episode of Hogan knows best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.7.118.191 (talk) 11:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Rock

In the WWE magazine (Mr Kennerdys on the front) its says that the Rock is Umagas cousin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.229.118 (talk) 12:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yes the rock is related to the fatu's if the wrestler looks kind of like the rock or umaga in skin tone moe han likely they are related it just seems that way any way209.159.197.82 (talk) 02:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Submission as Umaga

Has he really ever submitted while under the gimmick of Umaga? The article states that he lost via submission at Royal Rumble 2007, but that was a Last Man Standing match, so I doubt that he actually submitted. If he hasn't, it should be added as it's a fairly important point in his career. Mjack32 (talk) 07:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No it's not important since it's never brought up on television, it's nothing but fancruft. MPJ-DK (talk) 11:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gibberish or English

is umaga unable to speak english or can he only speak random gibberish and weird yells and screams because watching him now it seems since i started wattching agian i've noticed that umaga has never spoken one word of english —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.159.197.82 (talk) 02:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a forum --Cheers, L A X 02:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Umaga was a character Eddie can talk English if you don't remember or don't know Eddie Fatu was Jamel (From 3 Minute Warning) prior to his Umaga gimmick 91.107.154.151 (talk) 20:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outdated

The last thing about Fatu that reads in the article is about survivor series 07, so this article is outdated by nearly six months. At the very least, his Wrestlemania appearance should be listed.Vicius (talk) 03:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It's ridiculous not to include his Wrestlemania 24 match against Batista given it's the last real notable event he's participated in. If only we were allowed to add it ourselves. EverythingDies (talk) 19:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody is allowed to edit articles, so the last part of your comment is ridiculous. Fatu has not had any notable matches/feuds since then. The match at WrestleMania was not notable. iMatthew _T._C. 20:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A match at the company's biggest pay-per-view isn't notable? I covered it in the Torch issue that analyzed every match on the card and it belongs as a notable event. The information ending at November of 2007 makes it sound as if he's been inactive since and it is grossly inaccurate. And for the record the article is unable to be edited so your reply was also inaccurate. The Batista match belongs. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 13:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article isn't protected so anyone is able to edit it. MA TT^talk 14:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You´re welcome Kalajan (talk) 14:32, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mother died

Umaga's mom died on the 25th April from cancer after a 7 year battle.

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2008/1209251394.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.41.225 (talk) 02:58, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sidewalk Slam

I've noticed that Umaga has strated using the sidewalk slam as a finisher, so i've gone ahead and added it to the article. Please feel free to alter it if you feel differently. Also, I've noticed that the 2007-Present section doesn't mention his current fued with Jeff Hardy. Thanks, Rich Guy (talk) 12:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I just now noticed that the sidewalk slam is added, but just under a different name. I probably misheard the announcers and thought that they said sidewalk slam. Thanks, Rich Guy (talk) 12:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rumors

in 2007 - present, right at the very end it says he is on FCW but it is rumored that he will feud with the undertaker at his return. can someone track the guy that put it there and block him? Kalajan (talk) 14:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image & article name

The same image is used twice [the one with the title], there is no photo of him without the makeup [which you can easily find in independent third-party sites] and why is the article named Eddie Fatu? I doubt he's more known as Eddie because frankly, thats not even his name! If you want to name the article by his real name, it should be Edward Fatu, or it should be like I think it should be Umaga. Feedback ^☎ 13:23, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many articles relating to wrestlers use nicknames of those wrestlers, such as the articles of Mike Mizanin, Charlie Haas, and Dave Batista. These are not the wrestlers' ring names, but, in fact, their legitimate names. The articles are not titled, as you claim they should be, Michael Mizanin, Charles Haas, and David Bautista. I agree with you that the article should be titled Umaga, instead. Dmasta (talk) 11:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto--Senkris (talk) 21:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Umaga was not the only name he used during his career; hence I don't think that should be the name of the article. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 03:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Three years after I posted this and the move happened. Cool, but where is the consensus for the move? I can't find it. Feedback ^☎ 18:54, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death?

Who haves references to Umaga's death? -тнєѕαℓχ - tคlк - ¢σηтяιвυтισηѕ 20:44, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So far, there's no accounts of him being dead, however he is gravely ill. [[1]]68.161.149.185 (talk) 21:04, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

well from that site u put it says he has died :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.217.104.227 (talk) 21:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Houston Examiner, he has passed.

I'd link, but it is apparently on the Wiki blacklist. Eugenespeed (talk) 22:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The site is according to Bobby Lashley's tweet

"Very sad day. A good friend is gone"

...so we think that Lashley refers Umaga as "the good friend".

This is Sad :'( -тнєѕαℓχ - tคlк - ¢σηтяιвυтισηѕ 22:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have a link CONFIRMING HE IS DEAD: http://www.pwnewsnow.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1259964121&archive=&start_from=&ucat=6& --JereMerr 22:53, 4 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremerr (talk • contribs)

The Houston Examiner is reporting he has unfortunately passed away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.50.151.167 (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The WWE have confirmed he has passed away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.19.29 (talk) 23:27, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's confirmed. --FaithLehaneTheVampireSlayer 23:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And another drug user dies far too early. WWE needs to be held accountable for the way these people abuse themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctor-Scrumpy (talk • contribs) 11:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's not good enough. Just because the WWE says it, in a completely unsourced and uncited paragraph, does NOT mean it is confirmed. AndarielHalo (talk) 23:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about the Wrestling Observer, generally viewed as the "New York Times" of professional wrestling? Right here. rdfox 76 (talk) 23:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then source that as well. Or instead. WWE.com had that article of his death back when it was yet unconfirmed. AndarielHalo (talk) 23:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

hi. WWE.Com announced last night, Friday The 4th Of December That Eddie Fatu died of a heart attack aged just 36! Another wrestler who has died young R.I.P. Apparently Eddie Fatu died after 2 heart attacks. His wife found him after the first attack and had him rushed to hospital were he was put on life support. After a few hours however he had his life support switched off due to a second heart attack. Matt Hardy (one of his fellow WWE companions) has also reported the death on his Twitter page! He wrote. . Im gonna miss Uce-Eddie Umaga Fatu very, very much. He was one of my true friends & an amazing person. May god be with ya-love ya man. TNA Diva Lisa Marie Varon ex WWE diva Victoria also wrote on her Twitter page Rest In Peace Umaga we will always love you always and we will always miss you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.70 (talk) 14:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Has been using the "Edward Fatu" ring name:

Before his death, Edward Fatu was wrestling under his real name "Edward Fatu" http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/profiles/u/umaga.html on the November 2009--Hulkamania Tour. This should be added to the ring names he has used —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.49.199 (talk) 21:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Final tour

Could someone please mention that days before his death, he was wrestling in the Hulkamania Tour in Australia?

That it why it was surprising to hear of his death, as not even a few days ago he was wrestling in Australia. 75.64.172.186 (talk) 02:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② ^talk 04:12, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah i agree something should be added about this tour who he fought? what happened in the last match before his death. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.193.170.253 (talk) 19:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Umagas Death

hi. WWE.Com announced last night, Friday The 4th Of December That Eddie Fatu died of a heart attack aged just 36! Another wrestler who has died young R.I.P. Apparently Eddie Fatu died after 2 heart attacks. His wife found him after the first attack and had him rushed to hospital were he was put on life support. After a few hours however he had his life support switched off due to a second heart attack. Matt Hardy (one of his fellow WWE companions) has also reported the death on his Twitter page! He wrote. . Im gonna miss Uce-Eddie Umaga Fatu very, very much. He was one of my true friends & an amazing person. May god be with ya-love ya man. TNA Diva Lisa Marie Varon ex WWE diva Victoria also wrote on her Twitter page Rest In Peace Umaga we will always love you always and we will always miss you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.70 (talk) 13:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Real Name?

what was umaga's real name? i have a statement from Afa of the wild samoans that umaga's real name was "Eki". here is the source: http://pwinsider.com/article/43442/afa-anoai-issues-statement-on-passing-of-eddie-umaga-fatu.html?p=1 --JereMerr 18:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC)--JereMerr 18:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremerr (talk • contribs)

The local Hospital where he died at is revealed

in a news story from the Houston Chronicle, they revealed the hospital where Edward Fatu was sent to and later died at, he died at Northwest Medical Center in Houston: here's the link to there story about Edward Fatu's death: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6755208.html.--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 23:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

we are all sad for his death —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.191.249.86 (talk) 06:53, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace?

The info box says he was born in San Francisco, California, but the third paragraph in the article says he was born in Wallkill, New York. Which is it? --James Duggan 17:42, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Eddie Fatu

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Reference named "wwebio":

From Stone Cold Steve Austin: "WWE Hall of Fame Inductees "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Biography". World Wrestling Entertainment. Retrieved 2009-05-26.
From Chris Jericho: "WWE Profile". World Wrestling Entertainment. Retrieved 2009-03-04.
From John Layfield: "JBL Bio". WWE. Retrieved 2009-04-06.
From Bret Hart: WWE.com biography
From Randy Savage: "Randy Savage's WWE Alumni profile". Retrieved 2009-06-12. {{cite web}}: Text "publisherWorld Wrestling Entertainment" ignored (help)
From Dwayne Johnson: "The Rock's WWE Alumni Profile". WWE. Retrieved 2007-06-04.
From Dustin Rhodes: "WWE bio".
From Adam Copeland: "Edge's WWE Profile". World Wrestling Entertainment. Retrieved 2007-03-21.
From Dave Finlay: "Finlay Bio". World Wrestling Entertainment. Retrieved 2009-06-30.
From Dave Batista: "Batista Bio". World Wrestling Entertainment. Retrieved 2009-09-21.
From CM Punk: "Bio". World Wrestling Entertainment. Retrieved 2009-04-14.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fact check

uh just check some facts for this page says he was born in 1950 died in 2009 was only 34 yrs old and also that he had a billed wieght of over 800lbs uh thanks just seemed odd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.141.23.240 (talk) 20:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, vandalism. Been reverted now. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 21:10, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Children and how long he was married

He was married, I already know that. And he did have four children as well, which is already in "personal life" section below the article. Can't we add them in the info box or something, until we get a source? I've already red the rules before joining wikipedia and I read up and learned that wikipedia doesn't not accept IMDb as a source, so I have to respect that rule and find a better source when I do research, can some one give me a hand before adding it back? TheSimpsons98 (talk) 12:26, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Find a reliable source, then add the content. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 14:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Umaga (wrestler)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Umaga (wrestler)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "SLAMbio":

From Dave Finlay: Milner, John M.; Kamchen, Richard. "Finlay". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved 14 October 2008.
From Edge (wrestler): "Edge bio". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved February 1, 2009.
From Rosey (wrestler): Milner, John M. "Rosey". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved September 30, 2008.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:13, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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