Talk:Westin Building

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Some proposed changes

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Some or all of the changes weren't supported by neutral, independent, reliable sources. Consider re-submitting with content based on media, books and scholarly works.

The Westin Building (WBX) is a major telecommunications and interconnection facility located in downtown Seattle, Washington. The building was named after the Westin hotel corporation which set up its headquarters in the building when it was first constructed in 1981. WBX is also home to the Seattle Internet Exchange (SIX)^[1], the Pacific Northwest Gigapop^[2], and the Pacific Wave Exchange.

The facility has several "Meet-me Rooms" which are used by phone companies, carriers, communication service providers (CSPs), and internet service providers allowing them to cross-connect their individual networks to each other. Carriers, content providers and application developers situate their POPs within secure cabinet or cage areas located throughout the building connecting back to the meet-me room via optical fiber cabling. The Westin Building's meet-me room is the heart of the facility, where buyers and sellers of broadband services offer interconnectivity to their backbones and diverse services without the need to utilize telephone company provided interconnections.^[3]

Several companies provide colocation services and access to cloud computing including Astute Internet, Colocenters, Inc., Equinix, Green House Data, Threshold Communications, Westin Building and Zayo Group among others.

Extended content

~~Can you site that last sentence? I'm not seeing it referenced in the sources. WakingJohn (talk) 19:38, 29 December 2017 (UTC)~~ [reply]

~~How about adding [1] to the references.? WakingJohn (talk) 19:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC)~~[reply]

(ROUTEtoSEATTLE Sorry didn't tag you earlier!) Can you explain a bit the point of these changes? I'm not entirely comfortable making them given they seem to remove information and replace existing sources. WakingJohn (talk) 19:48, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Response to WalkingJohn

Sorry if there are errors as I am new to this.

The reason for the update is to:

* Provide an update on the material (new links to other relevant wiki articles.)

* Correct grammatical errors.

* Correct some obvious errors in the current material (Sabey Data Centers and Apvio, Inc. do not maintain data centers in the building. Sabey never did so I am curious how this was added.)

* Add some additional detail (the types of technologies and services have changed.)

* Correct a broken link (the Rawlson King referenced article (6) link was broken and the correct link was added.)

* Add additional references (critical educational network functions were added for the Giga Pop and Pacific Wave.)

* Update some of the providers (removed Sabey and Apvio as they are not present in the building and added Astute, Colocenters, Equinix, Green House, Threshold, Westin, and Zayo as current providers in the building.

* Add an updated photo of the building.

I would be happy to discuss this in detail if need be.

Thank you.

ROUTEtoSEATTLE (talk) 20:36, 29 December 2017 (UTC) 29 December, 2017[reply]

References

^ "Seattle Internet Exchange, Seattle, WA". Seattle Internet Exchange. 2017.
^ "Pacific Northwest Gigapop (PNWGP), Seattle, WA". Pacific Northwest Gigapop. 2017.
^ Rawlson King. "Meet-Me Rooms Provide Cheap Carrier Cross-Connects". The Web Host Review. March 20, 2003.

External links

ROUTEtoSEATTLE (talk) 18:57, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Declined I'm sorry, but your proposal was lacking in sufficient sources necessary for inclusion in the article. Some of these problems include:

WHIR (Webhost Industry Review) is a collection of company-provided press releases. Using them as a reference would not normally provide the strength that other sources would, such as online newspapers or journal articles.
The links you offered for the Seattle Internet Exchange and PNWGP.net do not readily display information regarding Westin. If you have other links which display the information more readily, please advise.

Once you've secured the information necessary for our review, please feel free to reopen a new edit request at your earliest convenience.
Regards, Spintendo ᔦᔭ 07:06, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Declined Reference Response

Hello,

I wanted to respond to the two items as references that were rejected.

  The WHIR link is from the Web Host Review. This is currently in the published page but the link is dead. That is why I am suggesting an updated link to the exact material that is currently referenced. As it stands now the live page is pointing to a meaningless link. This needs to be corrected at the very least.

 Secondly the link to the Gigapop should have been https://pnwgp.net/network-locations which identifies one of their their location as the Westin Building. Secondly, the link to Pacific Wave node sites https://pacificwave.net/nodesites shows the Westin Building location as  well.

Please suggest a method to update the current Wiki page that contains faulty links and bad data.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROUTEtoSEATTLE (talk • contribs) 01:58, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Does the Westin Building still have a MMR?

The Meet-me room article provides the following definition:

A meet-me room (MMR) is a place within a colocation center (or carrier hotel) where telecommunications companies can physically connect to one another and exchange data without incurring local loop fees.

The Westin MMRs, while still officially designated as MMRs, no longer meet this definition, as Digital Realty has started charging recurring fees for new cross-connects. Should this change how they're described in the article?

(Pending appropriate references, of course -- the change doesn't seem to have been reported anywhere citeable yet)

DefaultFree (talk) 23:30, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[SIX-1] "Seattle Internet Exchange, Seattle, WA". Seattle Internet Exchange. 2017.

[PNWGP-2] "Pacific Northwest Gigapop (PNWGP), Seattle, WA". Pacific Northwest Gigapop. 2017.

[TheWHIR1-3] Rawlson King. "Meet-Me Rooms Provide Cheap Carrier Cross-Connects". The Web Host Review. March 20, 2003.

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