Talk:Wheeler Dealers

Actual Season is Number 9

As you can see on the official Mike Brewer's site, the actual season is the number 9 not 10. http://www.wheelerdealer.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.218.32.145 (talk) 18:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC) Dear Mike / Ed,

I am a great follower of your Wheeler Dealer program and I tried ver hard not to miss any episode when it comes on air. However I would like to know if you ever did an episode on the 1965 Ford Lotus Cortina. It was a great car both on the road and tracks and I never forget the races here in Singapore.

If it is possible it would be good if you guys could work out a show on this great car.

Thanks and with Best Regards, George Lim sixty8a@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.55.2.47 (talk) 05:41, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Mistake

Sorry, but the SAAB is Swedish, so the Volvo 180 couldn't be the First swedish car in the series. Right? Or I'm stupid? Even for the Subaru: on Mazda, Suzuki and Toyota (and they are Japanese brands) they make episodes...

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.71.231.234 (talk) 22:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

The list states that the Volvo 180 was the first Swedish car featured since Series 1. It just means that after the Saab 900, no other Swedish car was featured until the Volvo 180 showed up. - Areaseven (talk) 01:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

D sorry, I'm not English, and I haven't read well it really :S —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.15.253.192 (talk) 11:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Not including the labor cost

It's said that the profit assessment doesn't reflect the true economic result because the labor cost is not incorporated. It's not entirely true. The program presents guidelines to enthusiasts who are willing to repair their own cars. So the assessment is not really invalid if the buyer seeks the spare parts and does the kind of repairs himself.. I'm changing the article accordingly.. 85.107.211.40 15:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, but the enthusiast, having put in all that time and effort, will not then sell the car for anywhere near the price they do in the programme! Therefore the 'profit' they claim to make is completely unrealistic. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Profit yeah right

I believe this show is just about saving classic cars from the scrap yard. Fixing a classic and restoring to its original condition gives the mechanic a sense of accomplishment/pride. However, if you believe this show is about making a profit; (a few hundred quid each time) it has to be a joke. If I were the mechanic that worked so many hours on that car and the result is just a few hundred pounds profit I'll be pissed as hell!

On the contrary - the kind of people that would want to restore classic cars get a great deal of pleasure in just doing the work. Such people often have one or more cars on the drive or in the garage, and do the work when they would be otherwise whiling away their hours in front of the TV or at the pub, often with friends. Sure, it's not all about the profit, but that is a nice bonus. And although Mike shows how and where to buy 'bargains' in reality people doing work like this are often picking up the cars for little or no money, and so the profit is much bigger. I've got two friends who get cars from unsuspecting people for ridiculously low amounts of money, do the work in between other projects and make a sizeable 'profit', as well as getting the sense of pride! Bertcocaine (talk) 16:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I think you're spot on, the cars are really well sorted when finished, the fact that they make any profit, is testiment to Mr Brewers talent. He looks and sounds a right dogey geezer, and used car salesmen have a certain, shall we just say 'reputaion', so I don't think they'd show you him buying a priceless classic of some poor widow, for 'i'll take it of your hand for 50 quid' type deal, and as I said elsewhere if they were doing it in anger I'm sure they wouldn't be getting all those expensive re-sprays and new interiors, so they could most probably add 20 - 50% more profilt to most of the cars they sell.

Yakacm (talk) 17:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Edd China

He's not just the show's mechanic, he's also the holder of the current furniture land speed record. He built and drove a leopard skin sofa at 87mph (Daily Mail: "My Sitting Vroom"). He owns a company, Cummfy Banana, that specializes in building these sort of things. Perhaps it's either worth mentioning in the article, or a good start for Edd's own article (right now, there is a dangling link in there...)

Edd China on leaving Wheeler Dealers --91.7.6.235 (talk) 00:54, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

404

http://www.beckmanndirect.com/Cars_WheelerDealers.htm this link is redundant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.196.72 (talk) 16:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Clueless

Brewer buys seriously overpriced cars and China (likeable though he is ) has an open chequebook mentality to repairs and buying parts .

tali 12/07/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.161.249 (talk) 17:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

The purpose of the series to to introduce the idea of restoring cars, and encourage amateurs to get stuck in. In plenty of cases Edd does show how parts can be refurbished or cleaned up, but he stays away from any repairs to parts that would require specialist equipment, or extensive technical knowledge. This is a good idea, as the theme of the program is to show people how easy (technically) it can be, if you are prepared to put in the time and effort. Indeed, the program is not dissimilar to a visual Haynes manual! Having to get the car to a standard when someone like Mike (non technical) can be impressed with the car, and sell it, a lot of things would be rather difficult to get past sellers if they were patched together by pinching every penny. In most cases, the money spent is in line with an original budget, with the occasional self indulgence (such as the air cooled VWs) that ignores the budget. Which is the way any sensible amateur would do it. Bertcocaine (talk) 16:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Why make such an inflammatory remark if your not going to have the bottle top sign it, I think your the clueless one, I take it your saying you can do better? How are they overpriced, which car in particular are you talking about, he’s had a 74 911 from California for £5000+, a 928 for £1600, a BM 8 series for £3500, I take it you have had better deals than this? The fact that they had a profit in almost all the cars they have bought, despite forking out on expensive re-sprays and new interiors, shows he has bought wisely in the first place. I get he feeling that if they were doing it for real, they probably wouldn’t be as generous, but I’d love to buy one of their motors when they have finished, they are all well sorted especially the later ones, were they have a bit more dough. I assume they chose Mike Brewer for his ability at buying cars because they didn’t choose him for his looks.

Yakacm (talk) 17:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Why include spoilers (profit and loss?)

Gives the show away. No need to include the profit and loss table for each episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.118.146.66 (talk) 03:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI, Wheeler Dealers is not a soap opera. It's an informational programme designed to give car enthusiasts tips on becoming a private used car seller. Thus, there is no harm on giving out all the costs. - Areaseven (talk) 03:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Whoever said it was a soap opera? Why would you want to tell everyone what happened at the end of the show before watching it. Its stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.118.146.200 (talk) 03:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

The question suggested a belief that it is a serial where suspense is a key component. A better question is why would someone be reading the details of the episodes if they were intending to watch the episodes? If program info is required perhaps the official website is a better source of information. Please see the comments above, if you think this program is about profit and loss then you've missed the point. Bertcocaine (talk) 21:56, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and does not subscribe to 'spoiler' mentality = see Spoilers. This applies to all articles on Wikipedia. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 18:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Intro cars and 'profit'

First of all: I do not see the point of the Intro cars section. It is simply the first car they tackled in a given series, and in no way special. Nor does it forshadow upcoming cars in that series, and the intro cars are mostly unrelated to the susequent cars. There is nothing special about them. Plus, you can see what the intro car is, by looking at the first car in a given series. Secondly, regarding statements about 'profit'. As was stated very early on in the show, it is all about showing enthusiasts and 'Saturday morning mechanics' how to service and repair modern classics yourself. Since the intended audience is people who would undertake such a porject for fun and in their spare time, the concept of labour cost is irrelevant. Therefore, any claims by Brewer and China about profits are spot on: sale price minus (purchase price + parts) equels profit. Vince (talk) 05:51, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Balance sheet

Ok...Who's idea was it to turn it into an accountant's balance sheet, with profit and loss totals and values for adjusted USD? I personally do not like what has been done to the page, it adds to what is already a fairly cluttered page. And seems to have been done by yet another viewer who fails to understand that it is about 'keeping classic cars on the road', not necessarily about profit and loss. As has been pointed out on the show by Mike Brewer many, many times. Here are my reasons for having this information removed:

The show itself does not include totals per season.

It makes the information look extra cluttered.

It adds nothing. Who cares how much was made per season? It's not a company.

Why the value in adjusted USD? Who cares how well the USD was doing against the GBP in 2008. It is very precise, for sure, but I fail to see what it adds. It is financially very precise, but counter to the spirit of the show.

Vince (talk) 08:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)Vince

Unless the author of the totals and currency conversion data responds soon, I will simply remove it. Vince (talk) 08:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

It seems my removal of the Intro cars section was reversed. I pointed out the reasons why, but there were no replies. I guess given the nature of the show, and the kinds of people it seemingly attracts, it is not sursprising. Lots of haphazard pointless edits and undos by people who can't be bothered to sign in nor to discuss matters on the Talk page, democratically. Great stuff, guys. I give up. Vince (talk) 12:36, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Did anybody ever check the final amount of the two balance sheets? Because according to my opinion both sheets have mistakes in it. The first series final amount is $29.062 not $28.599 as it shown. Or if it is correct, than some costs are missing maybe a cost of $463. (i count with the 2.300 refund) The second sheet shows $6.182 difference. It is 51.558 dollars instead of 45.378. I guess because of the Jaguar E Type. (Total costs 21.000 sales price 37.000 which is not 10.000 profit) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.132.134.49 (talk) 17:47, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

The prices shown in Wheeler Dealers: Trading Up are the prices that are given and told by Mike in each episode.13thDoctor93 (δ³Σx²) 20:23, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Location of Workshop

Not sure that it's relevant or very encyclopedic but filming is done in Bracknell, Berkshire and certainly the vehicles are held there once completed before they are sold. The links to cars up for sale on an external website all mention tha tthe car is 'in BRacknell, Berks for viewing'. Didn't want to add it to the article as I can see that some sort of debate has started about the accounting style table used to describe the cars. Also, I have noticed that the premises used for working on the car's (Edd's Workshop) has changed three times over the years, again nothing encyclopedic about that. I have no clue where they are on a map!

86.11.102.208 (talk) 09:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Wheeler Dealers Sverige

I just added a new section that I called "Other format". Right now it's just a quick mention of the swedish version of the show (that might grow into an article of its own if given the chance), but I suspect that there must be several other things to put under this section...or? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.30.237 (talk) 20:15, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Diffrent formating of tables s1-8 and s9-10

I'm a bit bothered by the diffrent formating of the last 2 seasons (9&10). Anybody objects me changing the formating to be the same as seasons 1-8? Luka666 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:56, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I'd actually prefer the opposite, 'cause the newer layout is easier to read. 85.230.93.61 (talk) 19:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Someone needs to fix the formatting of the tables of episodes, as they don't quite read right horizontally. I could fix it, but I'm too busy Davidrust (talk) 02:41, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Splitting off episodes

Hi. Considering that there are now 134 episodes, perhaps it is time to split off the episodes into a separate page - List of Wheeler Dealers episodes? Just my 2c Gbawden (talk) 10:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Done - the new page is at List of Wheeler Dealers episodes Gbawden (talk) 09:44, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Last Names

I reverted this edit, as WP:LASTNAME is part of MOS:BIO, and as this article is not biographical, it does not, strictly speaking, necessarily apply. In plot summaries for fiction, characters are generally referred to the same way they're commonly referred to on the show. I think it's ok for shows like Wheeler Dealers to be handled the same way. --Fru1tbat (talk) 12:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. 24.130.172.5 (talk) 15:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Bias

This article reads like it was written by the Mike Brewer Fan Club, in the Format section it mentions Brewers contributions (and his name) thirteen times while "the mechanic" is mentioned twice. Despite "the mechanics" contribution typically being about 80% of the running time of the show and by far the most interesting portion while Brewers segments are often a frustrating interruption.

What do you suggest, then? - Areaseven (talk) 14:55, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Wheeler Dealers Revisited

Anyone know what "Wheeler Dealers Revisited" is, and can update this page with the info? It's mentioned a couple of times in the episodes list, but should really be reference-able. Louis Knee (talk) 12:30, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Looking at the present version of the website, it looks as though it was a 5-episode series, but someone needs to track dredge out the details. Louis Knee (talk) 18:21, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

References

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