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Design Submission Again

Thanks for the invitation to comment. Have done so, let me know what you think. You'll see my name appear in the edit history - was just testing then reverting something on your design so I could link to it (in the page history) as a suggestion in my comments. TwoMightyGodsPersuasionNecessity 19:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Main Page Title

Pretzels, I noticed your attempt to remove the title from my design proposal. First, I must admit attempting this some time ago on a sandbox. This is a discussion on the main page Javascript code that removes the title. If only it were as easy as __NOTITLE__ :) Scottydude talk 14:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, hope you don't mind - actually meant to test it on my own page. Not sure how to implement that CSS without getting a change to the global monobook.css file approved... =[ Pretzelschatters 14:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Your Request

For comment about your main page design proposal, has been completed here. Cheers, -- iMatthew T.C. 01:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


Main page redesign

Hello, Pretzels! Wikipedia:2008 main page redesign proposal was recently cleared of all design entries. You may want to re-enter your design(s), based on the details here. (You can see the old list of designs here). NOTE: A survey was conducted on what users wanted to see in the new main page, you can see the results here. NickPenguin(contribs) 02:15, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Pretzels. Your main page redesign is outstanding - geared toward the user with clear textual and graphic elements. But right now, most of your design's sections (Best of Wikipedia, In the news, On this day) are not updating to the daily Main page. (Your Picture of the day is updating.) Several other candidates at Wikipedia:2008 main page redesign proposal do update daily, leaving one to wonder how much more work remains for your design. BrainMarble (talk) 23:38, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Help

Hey pretzels, I've left a short comment on the newest design. I really like it and I don't see much to change. I think it would be a great main page. I was wondering if you could help me with some problems on my design. I'm pretty busy with school and such so I haven't had the time to sit and figure it out. In my original design There is stray text that seems to be overflowing from the boxes. It sits in between the featured picture and DYK/OTD. I was wondering if you knew what was causing that. I think it might have to do with some of the overflow settings? Also, on my so called Combined proposal I need to have FA aligned vertically with About section which for some very odd reason is causing me trouble!? Also, I'd like to have the heights set so that the TFA and ITN are the same height collectively as the Navigation column on the right. I sincerely hope this isn't too much to ask. You're proposal looks great. Let me know what you think. Happy editing! Scottydude talk 16:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

IRC

Do you mind logging on to IRC? Ping me when you get on. iMatthew (talk) 18:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Come on again. ;) iMatthew (talk) 21:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks & Appreciation

Hi Pretzels I am Ehsan. I wanted to thank you for your welcome and guidances. I didn't know that should write my name for username. However, I am grateful from you for all.at present, I want to ask a question if It is in order. What is the sagacity? Please, describe it for me completely and explain clearly. of course, I asked same question from Wikipedia some minutes ago, But I am not sure that I have done it correctly.(217.218.7.140 (talk) 11:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)) Thanks again

Post RFC

Thanks a lot Pretzels, I know its a bit early for a cookie for your accomplishments, but when the RFC is closed on Friday — I'd like to know what your opinion on how we are to coordinate the remaining proposals so that they are ready for the RFC against the current main page. We've got several threads in the discussion: here and here. ChyranandChloe (talk) 03:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Support has certainly gone elsewhere, and I'm actually planning on dropping mine. Right now I think I'm sort of leading the charge for the Post RFC... and figuring out how to promote a proposal that I have trouble learning to like. Nevertheless, good work, I approve. The borders for the FA and Header could be improved, but I'm holding off until after the RFC. ChyranandChloe (talk) 03:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Main page redesign

Thanks for canvassing me! ;) Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 13:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I like your version. The only addition I'd like to see is the book design in the title like Highfields and Chem's version. If you had a title like theirs it would look more attractive I think Dr. Blofeld 15:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I mean a book like here. I would also recommend removing some of the icons and replacing with full coloured strip headers instead, Yours is the nearest to my ideal though. Also be careful with notifying people about it, I know it should be publicized as much as possible but some may see it as canvassing and may cause a fuss about it when the final decision is made. Try posting at village pump and more general wikipedia spaces pages to avoid this. Regards Dr. Blofeld 15:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I would take away the icons in the header for the A-Z and contents. Could you perhaps offer another version with the header as you showed to me but remove the colored icons? Dr. Blofeld 15:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm unsure about making any more drastic changes to the design just yet. However, your help would be incredibly useful from September 1st, after the straw poll. At that stage we will be merging the designs and working out what needs changing, to create one consensus-ed design. I think you'd be good at that. I hope to see you at Wikipedia talk:2008_main_page_redesign_proposal soon! Cheers, PretzelsTalk! 15:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I have some ideas here. I'd willing to work with you to play around with some ideas to improve the existing proposal. On first looking, I think it might look good to reduce the width of the featured column to around 75% across the page and then move up the "browse by topic" subjects column so it slots in at the top on the right. Dr. Blofeld 16:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Main page redesign

Please see WP:CANVASS, specifically "excessive cross-posting". I've never been involved in the redesign proposal or even commented on the page, so that rules out posting to me based on my interaction with the idea. I have no interest in commenting on something so pointless, and (as you can see from me not having done so) never have. Ironholds (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

That's ok, thanks for the apology; you might want to limit it to people either a) you know are involved in the proposal or b) people who normally get involved in proposed changes (so you might want to look at the people involved in all the new WP:N proposals). Ironholds (talk) 16:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for letting me be part of the RFC. I would have not found out about it any other way. Kushal (talk) 17:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Main page redesign straw poll

Thanks for the invitation to participate. I may have missed it, but didn't see a link to the process that has lead to the effort of redesigning the main page. What is the objective of the redesign? It's not that I think the current design is perfect, but it would be easier to give meaningful input if I knew which problems we are trying to solve. --NorwegianBlue talk 17:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the links, I'll certainly look into them. Nevertheless, if you could help me by summing it up: is it primarily (1) a question of aesthetics - making the main page more "sexy", if you like, or (2) contents - what should be on the main page and what shouldn't, or (3) user-friendliness -- where on the page should the contents that are already there today be located to make the page as accessible as possible for a newcomer, or (4) something else. I suspect its a mixture of some of these elements, but I'd appreciate your opinion of their relative importance. Thanks. --NorwegianBlue talk 20:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Current main page format

Can you tell me briefly how the decision was made to overhaul the main page? Also, has there been any discussion to put the current design in Wikipedia:Main Page alternatives for those who do not wish to change? I've seen some designs I like, but I think it is crucial to offer the option not to change to those who want it. - Mgm|(talk) 17:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Image Overflow Problem on Main Page Redesign

Hey Pretzels, I just checked your design again, and it still overflows; clear:left apparently didn't do anything. I think the problem is that the image inside of a floated div and doesn't extend the border of the text div with the size of the image. One possible fix would be to find some way to make the image display inside the box created by the text div. Great submission, though. --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The problem is now solved; nicely done. --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 22:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Also, if I may ask, why is the image version different than the actual version? Can you not just put a "background-image:_____.jpg" parameter in the style of the header (for now at least)? That image makes your submission look 10 times better in my opinion. --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 22:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I'd love to have that background show up to everyone but url strings get removed from CSS parameters in MediaWiki for security or something. I'd have to get a line added to global.css, which I tried, but got no response. Any ideas? I'd love to be able to show it to everyone. At the moment it's in my personal monobook.css, hence the screenshot differing. PretzelsTalk! 22:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I see you've gotten the image to show up properly now; how may I ask did you go about doing that? And just to let you know.. whatever you did made the overflow problem show back up.. --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 04:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Google Chrome issue and other blatherings

Sweet deal, good quick work. Also, ++ for quick and open-minded responses to constructive criticism. People should take lessons from you! - chicgeek talk 00:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Will do. And yes, the occasional optimist exists on Wikipedia! - chicgeek talk 00:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sidebar. Not at all! It's pretty much there to be taken. Much better than an explosion of userbars, n'est pas? (PS. It looks better in FF.) - chicgeek talk 00:14, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Looking good, looking good! What generation iPT? After only a year, I'm thinking of selling mine and upgrading to an iP 3G, but perhaps that's wishful thinking... - chicgeek talk 12:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to spam your talk page yet again, but I was hoping to ask you an entirely random question. You own the same iPT as I (1G 16GB) and presume that you purchased it in Britain. How much did you buy yours for, and how much do you think a used one would fetch? (excellent condition, with all accessories and software updates) I got mine in Canada, so my price reference is a little skewed... If you've no idea, no worries. :) - chicgeek talk 23:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I support it

I support it. I only supported one. I think it was yours f I know what you're on about. Chubbennaitor 10:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No worries. Chubbennaitor 20:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

About Sister Projects in Main Page Redesign

My feeling towards your design is that the sister projects page is awkard, as in other sections are colourful and received a revamp in their layout but nothing was done towards the sister projects section. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Me thinks the real reason, as would also explain by your canvassing hundred of people, that "winning" is highly important to you rather than sharing variability and input from the community addressing valid concerns Dr. Blofeld 22:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, in which I appreciate your efforts and actually I have been involved in the discussion, but quite infrequently for months and was one of the first people to comment namely with Scottydude. However, I see nothing wrong with making suggestions and to provide a glimpse of how your version would look without icons and minor adjustments which many people have stated they don't like. You seem to have misinterpreted as me trying to steal your thunder or something, actually I am trying to provide minor variations on what we have already and modify it to address all people's concerns and preferences. I'm not "accusing" you of anything but your mass posting did seem quite pronounced. As it concerns the main page I agree that as many people should comment as possible, but you must see how people might be suspicious about vote stacking, even if you are purely innocent. Dr. Blofeld 23:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I know fella, I agree. If though the final entries are set in stone and there is no scope for modification I feel your great efforts at posting might have been better spent earlier along in the preliminary stages rather than at such a late date to get as many people commenting on the initial proposals and encouraging more to participate then. Dr. Blofeld 10:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Main Page redesign proposal

I am running Firefox 3.0 (exactly 3.0, I think) on Windows Vista at a 1280x1024 resolution. I can upload a screenshot to ImageShack, if you wish. Psychless 23:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I tested it at a lower resolution, 1024x768, and it looked fine. It is just my resolution. It's not that big of a deal, and removing it would make it look worse on lower resolutions. I would like to add that the image behind the "Welcome to WikipediA" box makes the three links (Contents, Index, Categories) hard to read. I've uploaded a screenshot here: http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screennn3.jpg Psychless 01:14, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Page redesign straw poll

I am incredibly flattered that you asked for my involvement, unfortunately I was out of town this week and didn't receive the message until today. I am curious though as to why you chose me as one of the editors to notify. Don't get me wrong, I am incredibly gratful, just somewhat perplexed since I don't believe I've met you before. S. Luke (talk) 09:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

MPRP discussion

I think our discussion is finally reaching a conclusion. I used your as backing on several occasions, and I'd apologize if what I said didn't really represent your views or positions. In a way, I think it's another hurdle and now we're about to return what really counts: design. ChyranandChloe (talk) 05:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Pull dates

Regarding {{Announcements/Community bulletin board}}, please remember that while pulldates should be observed, it doesn't override the instruction where it says "Please put the newest entry at the top of the list. Pulldate is one week (7 days) from posting. Don't leave empty." Please be careful and follow the instruction next time. OhanaUnitedTalk page 21:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Here is a link that someone found with info on the new series of Skins. This comes from the Channel 4 press office. I would make the changes but I do not know how to make the necessary changes as it is a bit complicated. Thanks!

http://www.lastbroadcast.co.uk/tv/v/7078-skins-series-3-new-characters-announced.html

76.71.236.140 (talk) 23:40, 13 November 2008 (UTC)samusek2

Re:Your question at WP:RFF

I have responded to your question here. Apologies for the delay. لennavecia 19:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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Custom header

I wasn't able to add this to the edit summury, but we don't need to mess with the position in order to get the draft MP and the current one to have the custum appearnace without the header. The administrators have done something (I believe with display:none in the a custum CSS file) that hides the header. Therefore I've made a breif revert. ChyranandChloe (talk) 03:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I undid your recent edit on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/2008 IWF action

I undid your edit of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/2008 IWF action dated 21:20, 8 December 2008. You deleted work by another editor without explaining it in an edit summary. If this was intentional, please re-delete it and explain it in the edit summary. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 21:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hello Pretzels! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from The Bald One White cat 11:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

thanks

For finishing up the Virgin Killer article! It looks great. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 00:12, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Skins names

I think you've missed the point of what I'm saying. Character names typically go by their WP:COMMONNAME, so if John Whatever is his full name which he is rarely called by then it would be incorrect to place his article at that namespace. Effy Stonem's full name is Effy Stonem, the fact that like most people she is called by her first name doesn't effect this. This is all moot at the moment anyway and the article has not been created (and perhaps, need not ever, but that's another issue). Shall we agree to wait until after the airing of 3.01 to decide whether it's best kept at "JJ (Skins)" or the full variation? ~ZytheTalk to me! 18:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Is it though? Isn't the second J in JJ, Jones? It's not that big a deal, really. I'm just occasionally pedantic.~ZytheTalk to me! 19:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Dispatch note

Hi, Pretzels; I had to partially remove your changes: [1]. Adherence to WP:MOS is part of WP:WIAFA, and since the Dispatches relate to featured content, it's hard for me to incorporate a breach of WP:ACCESS into an article that has my sig in the byline. I don't fully understand the different ways of setting up images (including the one you had used), so if there's another way of accomplishing what you were aiming for, I'm willing to learn :-) Per ACCESSibility, images have to be within sections rather than above them, and per WP:MOS#Images, there should be no left-aligned images under third-level headings, which is how I had originally set up the images. I know that other areas of the Signpost don't always adhere to MOS and there's no reason they need to, but I feel that articles relating to featured content should, because WP:WIAFA calls for it; I'm put in a strange position if featured articles are supposed to adhere to MoS, yet I write a Dispatch that doesn't. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we can convince someone to re-do that side banner; it does complicate things :-) It's over my head, though. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikimania Oxford bid

Some time ago you indicated your support of the Oxford 2010 Wikimania Bid, and it was recieved with much gratitude. I now ask if you could could help support our bid by contributing to the bid page that is located at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2010/Bids/Oxford. Now is the critical period for work to continue on the bid as the official bidding period has now started and the jury has been formed.

I do not ask for huge swathes of time, just enough that with eveyrone working on this, it can be completed in time to the high standard required in a bid. For the bid page, an excellent source of information is the travel wiki article on the City of Oxford which is found at: http://wikitravel.org/en/Oxford. The chance of bringing Wikimania to the UK is the best so far and i expect the best chance for many years. With a fresh and stong UK chapter we have an amazing opportunity to put ourselves on the map. If you have any questions, please mail them to the Wikimedia UK mailing list, email me or post a message on my talk page and i will answer as quickly as possible.

I look forward to working with you on the bid page. Many Thanks. Seddσn talk 15:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

About my edits

I know you have interpreted my tense changes as humorous, but unfortunately they reflect reality.

Conserve School is no longer a High School, it is a now a Semester Program.

I think it is time for the tense to change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Disappointed young lad (talkcontribs) 02:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I also have to apologize for two negative comments I left on the page about the school. It is a frustrating time for everyone, and I just got wrapped up into it. I would expect other students may change, and maybe vandal the page as time goes on, so it would be good to keep an eye on it.

thanks Disappointed young lad (talk) 02:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

What's your take?

The MPRP appears to be reaching a conclusion, and you seem a bit agitated. I know that I may be asking for a lot, but what is your take? For example, how do you think it failed? And what do you we should do now? ChyranandChloe (talk) 04:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:POST

Hey pretzels,

Would you be able to take the lead on news & notes for the next couple of weeks? I am trying to take a short wikibreak (but I can definitely help if I see any interesting stories on foundation-l, etc). best, -- 18:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

ok, no problem -- I'll get drafts together but if you can help with compiling stories, editing etc that would be super helpful. (I'll be around, just trying to cut down on time spent on it for a little while). Thanks!! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 19:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Redesign

I like it. My thoughts include removing the background color from the heading and footer (making it the default background), and making the heading a bit thinner; making the font a less-harsh serif, and a bit smaller; and making the headings (e.g. "News and Notes", "In the News", "Dispatches" etc.) align with respect to the vertical center of the page if that makes sense. seresin ( ¡? )  00:13, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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SP redesign

I've left some comments at User talk:Pretzels/Signpost/Article.--ragesoss (talk) 00:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I've moved an article to it's permanent location so that we can do proper testing: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-02-16/Dispatches. Obviously there are still some bugs with the footer. Also, the footer needs the next week/last week links for the standard features.--ragesoss (talk) 01:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
How's the progress? Making any headway with the article footer? Also, I'm concerned about this change; it seems like this will remove some of the flexibility in how headlines appear, e.g., on the subscription template. Just one example: will "In the news" still be able to display as "Wikipedida in the news: blah blah blah" in the subscription template? I'll probably be on irc and/or Skype later today if you want to chat realtime about the redesign.--ragesoss (talk) 15:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey! Looks like you made the signpost templates live already?

One request: can you please restore the links to the Tip Line and the Newsroom in the footer? It's very important that people be able to leave us story suggestions easily... and I personally use the newsroom link all the time :) Thanks! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 19:04, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

D'oh! I just saw that the "contribute" link does link to the newsroom. Sorry :) I thought I'd seen it there before... I wonder if it'd be worth making a direct link to the tip line, too? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 19:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree, a direct link to the tip line would be good. I also think maybe the "planning room" should be moved to the main "newsroom" page, since it really is now the main place that acts as a virtual newsroom. Thoughts?--ragesoss (talk) 20:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree ... I have some thoughts on how to redo the newsroom generally, though maybe we should do one thing at a time -- focus on the public redesign first, then do the newsroom? I think a link just to the the general "newsroom" page or to the tipline would be useful from the front page of the 'post, either way. PS: Pretzels, no worries on confusion -- I wasn't very awake when I posted this! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 20:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I would wholeheartedly support replacing the Newsroom with the Planning Room! PretzelsTalk! 20:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

article layout

I'm still uncomfortable with how far from the left the body of the text is. The title looks better, although the font seems a little big to me. I think the footer is just too much. I would very much prefer something slim, similar to the old version (maybe just change the font?) Are you available on irc?--ragesoss (talk) 20:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Subscription template

looks good. I'll cut-n-paste it over the old one when I publish. Thanks! One other thing I thought of... it might be nice if the displayed article in the "In this issue" section was bold, like a normal self-link in an article. Just a suggestion, feel free to disregard it.--ragesoss (talk) 00:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I see you updated the spamlist message. It will need to be stable on people's talk page even after a new edition supersedes the posted one, in case it isn't already set for that.--ragesoss (talk) 02:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Would widening it a bit or some other small adjustment cause any problems? It'd be nice if BRION fit on one line.--ragesoss (talk) 06:01, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Spamlist message

I'm not sure if you noticed it, but the new design at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe/Message contains many a "| width=50% |". I'm not sure if it's intentional so I thought I'd let you know just in case. §hepTalk 02:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Glad that was an expected outcome! §hepTalk 02:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Engel and the minions (Fetler, Levret etc. etc.)

Hello Pretzels

No, I've no other evidence to offer to our Wiki table but noting while going through that process, last year, I did try to get in touch with the (main) secretary at Ellis's Department at UoCL. I spoke to her over the phone and, obviously, on information restrictions, she refused to supply me with the information I requested ... namely, 'Is he still there ?' and 'What is his continuing relationship, if any ?'

The secy. asked me to make the request, 'in writing,' (e-mail acceptable) which I immediately did.

Needless to say, I heard nothing in response !

Unfortunately, I haven't kept copies of these request ... figuring a complete waste of time. Clearly, it looks as though I was wrong ... if others, like you are picking-up on stuff. I'm sorry :-(

The one funny thing I remember about 'Levret' though was that the two contributions I did look at revision history on 'talk' that he/she redeacted comments ! My own personal conviction is that this was done because it was giving the game away on 'sockpuppeterism!':

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Natascha_Engel&diff=243711028&oldid=243710975

Be carefull of the four 'a clock knock, my friend ... we're pushing it with the one's that have power (right now) ...

Engel is quite dangerous because of her knowledege of (Ed) Balls/Young and past Treasury issues (and thus Brown) et. al. She certainly knows of where skellingtons :-) :-) are buried !!

I took a deep breath before establishing a 'Controversy' section in her Wiki entry ... after she'd accused virtually all working class bus drivers in the country of 'corruption.'

It's all there mate ... I just begin to wonder if I should look for 'safe-houses' right now :-) :-)

Cheers mate ... I support you every step of the way ... as fast as I can run ... the other way ... :-) :-) :-)

Seriously, though ... be careful ...

All best

Lomcevak (talk) 15:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Signpost redesign

Very nice work :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Wahey

A British teenager who knows how to type and doesn't use it in an attempt to replace the entirety of WP with 'Bum. LOL' I salute you sir. Also, nice job on the IWF incident, again, good to know someone in this age bracket knows what they're doing. —Vanderdeckenξφ 15:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Rather than making a new section, I thought I'd post back here again - love the new Signpost! It's a great, refreshing design and fits very well with the overall feel. Well done. Also, I had a feeling you might be someone who I could recommend this to, if you haven't already read it. Seeya. —Vanderdeckenξφ 12:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

feedback about the design

In case you're not watching it, feedback is pouring in at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost. Some complaints I think are more serious than others, and some easier to address than others. I really appreciate the work you've done so far. I know it's no small undertaking, but I hope you'll help fix the things that can be fixed, especially in terms of making the design flexible for those who don't like certain aspects of it. Cheers--ragesoss (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

What do you think of what Shep pointed out, using a Google search for the Signpost Archives? The MediaWiki search is basically useless for that. Google Search Is there a way to combine that with an input box?--ragesoss (talk) 17:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I tried it, and it didn't work before; it brought no results for the searches I knew should have results. It's working now. I guess it was having one of those frequent moments where the internal search just doesn't work. Cool.--ragesoss (talk) 17:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Signpost delivery design

Once the design of the talk page delivery message gets updated, it can be sent out with the new issue. Cheers--ragesoss (talk) 16:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

That's ok. We'll just use a naive format this week. --ragesoss (talk) 00:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

re:Discussion

You have new messages Hey, Pretzels. You have new messages at Shep's talk page.
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Balanced response: thanks

No, I don't and will not assume 'ownership' of the Engel article, but as things get so bad (and worse is to come) for the current government under New Labour I will be on the lookout for 'spin' and Memory Hole activity.

Reasoning about stuff, as opposed to simple 'assertions' ala Fetler, goes a long way with me, my friend !

Thanks for your balanced and calming intervention in this exchange, Pretzels :-) I have no wish to be engaged in 'revert wars.' Life is too short.

Lomcevak (talk) 11:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Fetler redacts again

I tried an extensive reasoning line with Fetler but it's a waste of time ... not remotely interested in reasonable engagement.

I give up.

Lomcevak (talk) 13:40, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, not quite ... a bit of the 'fly in the hole'... for our amusement:

Footnote

Lomcevak (talk) 15:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

While I agree red links are 'cool', the Y'all Is Fantasy Island article had far too many. Given that the article is about an obscure band from Scotland I doubt the redlinks will be converted any time soon, if at all. Fetler (talk) 16:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

WQA 20090228

I've now responded to this.

'gards

Lomcevak (talk) 12:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit Centric (ref.:WQA 20090228 ) 'retires' for a while (no voice)

Edit Centric gets 'pissed-off' because other admins says he has no voice.

Thought you might find this interesting, especially after recent transactions.

I have found, by simple Googling, additional evidence of the Ellis/Newman 'mutual appreciation society' and will place that evidence on the discussion page of the Ellis article.

  • Done (blowing doors off)

Personally, if I never hear from Ellis, Fetler (Matthew Newman) and Levret (?) again, it will be too soon.

But they do need watching ... especially in the run-up to the next General Election (May 2010) when the New Labor 'spin-troops' will be deployed at their 'fullest.'

It's been real ;-)

Lomcevak (talk) 13:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

For the sake of peace ...

Footnote1
Footnote2 (if Fetler redacts [again])

Lomcevak (talk) 14:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi:

I don't know your politics, neither do I care, but I'm jotting this down to you as a mark of respect. Of course, if you have any deeper insights to Oborne ... get stuck in ;-)

Lomcevak (talk) 11:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Lomcevak (talk) 11:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Glad to

see you back! No pressure, but I hope you'll give the Signpost delivery design another shot.--ragesoss (talk) 01:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I really like it! I think it should go over well. My suggestions: add a link to the single-page view as well, and add a section header too, so that it will integrate well into talk pages.--ragesoss (talk) 19:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

In the News

Hey there. I don't think I'll be able to do In The News this week for the Signpost. Would you mind giving it a shot? Thanks, mate! --Cryptic C62 · Talk 02:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

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That's good for this week, but it might be good to remove those links again later. There's already a subscribe link in the bottom line, and the subscribe page now mentions the RSS and Twitter feeds.--ragesoss (talk) 02:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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multi-story series

Hey there, Nice work on this. Can we turn it into a real template, since I'd like to use it on other "series" stories (like this one)? thanks! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 21:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, Pretzels. I have completed a draft In The News for this week. Since you're listed as a backup, think you could take a look over it and add/fix what is there? Xclamation point 23:56, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

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Howdy! Can you fill in for "In the news" while X! is out?--ragesoss (talk) 19:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

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Don't think this qualifies as nonsense. Colleges are likely notable. We'll see what the next admin does with it. Dlohcierekim 14:31, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free media (File:Apple-LetsRock-9thSep-Invite.jpg)

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Pretzels, thanks for the offer. Would you be interested in interviewing a WMF staff member or three? (And more contributions to News and notes and In the news are always nice, too.)--ragesoss (talk) 20:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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Review

Have you been in touch with Llywrch about the review? I left him a comment about it, but I hasn't responded and I'm not sure if he wants to make changes based on my suggestion or not before publication. He may not have seen my comment, so I'll leave him a talk page note.--ragesoss (talk) 00:09, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the initiative. I think we should hold it back at least until Llywrch can respond one way or the other as to whether he wants to try to use my suggestion, and it's usually helpful if reviews get a least a few eyes to give feedback before publication.--ragesoss (talk) 00:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
I like the look of the news room navigation page. One thing I've been wanting to do for a while (other people have suggestion something like this as well) is move the current "planning room" to the newsroom's current location, and keep a good navigation area at the top of it. The planning room is actually the hub of activity for putting each issue together, and it's kind of hidden away. Maybe we could move it and just use your current design of the Newsroom as a sort of header.--ragesoss (talk) 00:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, go for it. It should cause any serious disruption, just some redundant links in any templates that point to both the newsroom and the planning room. Thanks! --ragesoss (talk) 00:43, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
No, publishing close to the end of Monday UTC as usual, probably (within 23 hours, probably a somewhat sooner).--ragesoss (talk) 01:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Your changes to the newsroom

Why did you make them? They seem unhelpful, since you split one central page into several insular ones, at least two of which seem to have overlapping roles. ÷seresin 01:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom at this moment have some of the same discussion and text on them. If both pages are going to be retained, what will be the distinction? ÷seresin 02:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
  • They kind of confused me at first but I kind of like the layout now I'm more used to it, to be honest. But I actually came here with a different request. Me and Phoebe were talking about my "hasty" publication last night, and we were kicking back the idea of a checklist to sort of give us a sense of what's happening and whether we're ready to publish. Is that something you could design, or throw together for everyone to chew on? Hiding T 15:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

template stuff

Hi! Sorry, I wasn't ignoring your message about the templates, I was out camping for the weekend when you posted it... I like it, though I did like the old footer with the other stories a bit better. But it's not a big deal. I can't figure out why Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-09-21/News_and_notes isn't displaying a link to the next issue's N&N, though. Can you fix? thanks! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 16:38, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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Incubator quote

Glad to see it will get some advertising. We have two major problems around good-faith new articles that aren't up to our standards: the need to get them out of the mainspace and the desire not to bite new editors. The Article Incubator should help with both and we'll take articles from any venue where it is deemed appropriate: CSD, PROD, AfD, AfC, etc.

If you want a more narrow quote, let me know and I'll retype the above! Fritzpoll (talk) 08:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Personal attack?

I didn't attack anyone. I told somebody to take an English course and some spelling lessons.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 07:13, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

I never said thanks for the new code, did I? Sorry. Thanks, it's just dandy. Hiding T 08:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

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signpost rox

The Signpost Barnstar
for redesigning the whole thing with creativity and style, responding to newsroom requests, being open to feedback, and helping with articles to boot. Thanks for all your help! You're awesome. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 21:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I am bad at templates

and cannot figure out why the current issue isn't displaying the "write the next issue" link? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 03:44, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

One of the signpost templates

Hi Pretzels. Sorry to bug you, but at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-10-05/Discussion report the header is pointing to the next issue in the "Write the next issue" link as being Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Archives/2009-10-12. I think it's supposed to point to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-10-12, isn't it? Hiding T 08:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

aha!

I made the issue page but forgot about the contents page. I figured it was something like that. Thanks! phoebe / (talk to me) 19:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

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um.. excuse me?

why was my input deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.165.179 (talk) 15:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

hello

yo sorry about what i did earlier man —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.165.179 (talk) 18:47, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Karachi Meetup

I just prepared the story here on Karachi meetup which is going to held on October 18th afternoon, some hours before Signpost new edition going to get published. Please improve the prepared story so I'll get back with exact meetup details before 3:00 UTC October 19. So, how about including photos and message from Jimmy Wales in signpost story? Here, you can find our agenda details w:File:My Pictures 048.jpg. Saqib talk 11:32, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, Pretzels

Hey, I am a new user. Just thought I'd say high.

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Fix needed

Hi, Pretzels. The ArbCom special report was mistakenly placed at the Dispatches,[2] and needs to be moved so the actual Dispatch can be moved in there. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:37, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

All set: Manning deleted the faulty Dispatch page, so now you can move in the Dispatch. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:49, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom election reports

Hi Pretzels - Just an update. I'll be writing a weekly election report and posting it to User:Manning_Bartlett/electionreport. The schedule is I get the draft up by 12:00 UTC on Sundays, the other members of the "election volunteers" are then free to tweak it, and it will be ready for the Signpost by 12:00 UTC on Mondays.

My plan is to leave any actual Signpost actions (page moves etc) to you guys directly. Let me know how all this sits with you. Cheers Manning (talk) 02:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

PS - there will be a report every Sunday until Dec 20 (when the final results will be known). Manning (talk) 02:21, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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HI

Hi pretzels! I'm a new user, can I make a friend here? Hollstein I love Pizza! 20:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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'post comment problems

Something's up with the comments on Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-11-09/Fundraiser -- they aren't displaying properly. Can you take a look? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

weird -- when I looked earlier only one of the talk page comments was displaying. I guess it's fine now -- maybe the template needed to be purged. Sorry to bug you! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

new template

And I thought I didn't like it, until I got my own. Thanks. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 00:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I took the liberty to recreate your banner template for Dutch Wikipedia, too. It can be found at nl:Gebruiker:Erik1980/banner. Thanks! :D Erik1980 (talk) 23:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
I made an (incomplete) little list of titles, at User:Quiddity/Pheasants forever. Feel free to move/copy wherever (maybe into your template's docs?). Thanks for the good direction. ;) -- Quiddity (talk) 03:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Aaaand the fairuse police have swung into action and hidden all the images. I was imagining (late last night) that this would be covered by 'parody', but now I'm not so sure, as they're being used to give parodical comment on WikiMedia, not on Katamari et al. Hmmmm. Any thoughts? (reply here is fine) -- Quiddity (talk) 22:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeaaaah, it is a shame. I added a note to the docs about using non-free images... luckily my pretzel is free as in free! — Pretzels Hii! 22:51, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sister projects interview

Oh yes, I just finished my last midterm exam on yesterday so I'm still catching up stuff. Meta should be released this week (hopefully). Which project will you be representing. OhanaUnitedTalk page 23:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I guess my meta interview is done. But I'm not sure how to link up to the last issue before going on hiatus. As you can see, the publishing date is off and it still used the old signpost format so you might need to give it a few tweaks before publishing it. Thanks. OhanaUnitedTalk page 16:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! Here's a preview on next week's interview. I think you'll find the project logo amusing. OhanaUnitedTalk page 23:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Na, let's keep the placeholder image as it is. Both me and the interviewee find the placeholder amusing. OhanaUnitedTalk page 23:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The Wiktionary interview is ready. OhanaUnitedTalk page 13:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Community WikiProject

I've posted a subpage here. This seems to fit the scope of the proposed project perfectly; very good idea. —what a crazy random happenstance 04:03, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

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Signpost election report

Hi Pretzels—RL work is at pressure-cooker level until very late Tuesday night (grant application deadline). I guess the Signpost deadline is before then; can you let me know exactly when it is, please? Tony (talk) 13:36, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

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Nice work

No, actually I'm glad you added those bits, I wanted to go further but thought I was already too much in, so I think I was likely a little cautious. Hiding T 17:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

G'night

I'm off to bed. Just to keep you in the loop, Ragesoss emailed me and is going to be about later, and may revise the article. I'm happy to defer to whatever editorial choice he makes. Best, Hiding T 23:52, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Message in your inbox

You've got mail. Vassyana (talk) 21:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

See [3]. The same apologies are extended to you. Vassyana (talk) 13:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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Policy Report

You just lowercased .... the problem with Policy report is that you can't tell that what I'm talking about unless I italicize it ... which seems too flashy in normal talk page conversation ... or put it in quotes, which looks too much like "scare quotes" to me. Would it be okay to consider it a proper noun and capitalize Report? You started the Signpost so I'll follow your orthographic lead. (Watchlisting) - Dank (push to talk) 01:02, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

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WikiProject Report desk

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Why did you remove the table for the WikiProject Report schedule?--iBentalk/contribs 18:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

He only moved it to the new WikiProject Desk -Mabeenot (talk) 18:47, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Pretzels, I hope my edits to the Skins plot synopses are close to what you had in mind.~ZytheTalk to me! 18:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

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Hello, Pretzels. You have new messages at HereToHelp's talk page.
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And again. HereToHelp (talk to me) 21:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

User:IBen/TB moɳo 00:59, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

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Award

The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
For creating the WP:MAC and WP:IPHONEOS banners. moɳo 00:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Could you upload the iMac with Wikipedia logo alone as well?--mono 00:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Well deserved. Can you make a WikiProject Apple Inc. version? We'll need it soon. Thanks, HereToHelp (talk to me) 00:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

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You designed this, yes? Is it possible to lessen the space between the heading and the start of the text? I think there's too much at the moment. Thanks. ÷seresin 04:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Hey, thanks for writing. It's designed to match the article footer layout, do you think that should be changed as well? I was considering making some small changes when Vector is rolled out as default. --— Pretzels Hii! 12:26, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
    • No, I think the designs you have are all good. I just think the space here, for example, between "Example sidebar" and the single rule would look better if it were smaller. As for Vector, I have not a clue how it would look best there, to be honest. I clicked "Take me back" the second I saw it. ÷seresin 19:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

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Unsourced BLP Signpost story

Hi, Pretzel. Thank you for following up on that. I tried to follow the instructions but I wasn't sure. I was willing to write a short story if no else was. Cheers. Maurreen (talk) 06:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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{{{2}}}
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Could you make a left-side version of Wikipedia:Signpost/Sidebar? I tried, but it just wouldn't work. Thanks, mono 19:33, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not inclined to; it's deliberately right-aligned only, for readability. It lines up with the "In this issue" sidebar in the article footer, and doesn't interrupt the main article text, which becomes difficult to read if it's all starting in different places across the page. It's a constant battle to keep the Signpost design tidy and consistent, to keep a professional and journalistic contrast to the rest of the 'pedia internal pages. Is there something else you could try? — Pretzels Hii! 19:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I was not intending to use it in an article, rather in the talkpage of the WikiProject report. You see, I had an idea to create a small space where readers could ask additional questions to the interviewees (in the discussion space). I thought it would look better not to have two sidebar-like elements next to each other, which is why I requested this. monosock 20:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
aha. Cool idea. The problem with putting another sidebar in that space, on either side, would be the odd little bit left over for the other discussion. I'd suggest just using a ===Subheader=== to split off that section, for now. It's something we'll take into account for the redesign. — Pretzels Hii! 20:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
OK. Thanks. monosock 20:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for all your work on the Signpost, especially the design and organizational effort you've put into it.

The Signpost Barnstar
For outstanding technical, aesthetic, and organizational contributions to the Signpost, I award Pretzels this Signpost Barnstar.--ragesoss (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

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Grab some glory, and a barnstar

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Hi there

Hi Pretzels, i like how you made that logo on WP:APPLE, would you be able to make a logo for my project? I am WikiProject Microsoft. But like you included an iMac to the left next to WikiProject Apple, could you add to the left and have it say WikiProject Microsoft to the right? Dwayne was here! 22:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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Talkback

Hello, Pretzels. You have new messages at Dwayne's talk page.
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Signpost move

I noticed you are in the midst of moving the Signpost. Just so you know, the "Back to contents" link at the top of each article appears as a red link. -Mabeenot (talk) 04:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I tried to fix it until you finish the move - also in the single page header although I am not sure if the links are used there at all.

While we are talking about archives and single-page view: I would really like to have single-page view for each old issue, too - at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Archives/2010-07-26/Single or such. (For example, I started linking to the single-page edition from the RSS feed, but the links become broken when the next issue comes out.) Any idea how to best implement this?

Another thing: In the single page view it would be nice to have links to each article next to its transcluded version, and also a prominent one to its comments page. (As you recall, we discussed full transclusion of the comments a while back, but despite my proposal back then I am still not sure if it is a good idea. A link won't hurt, though.)

Regards, HaeB (talk) 08:26, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and could you have a look at this problem? Thanks! Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Signpost Newsroom

You wrote:

Hey! I seem to remember you being something of a template wizard? Disregard if not. Otherwise, I was hoping you could help us out at the Signpost Newsroom. We've got a big table set up to coordinate all the stories due for the next issue, with space for a colour-coded status and notes. However, the way it's set up - which is admittedly likely outdated and inappropriate now - doesn't allow us to have [edit] links for each story's section. Do you have any suggestions on how I could restructure the templates to allow for that? If the table is empty for the start of this week's publication cycle, here's a nice full one as an example. Best, — Pretzels Hii! 21:46, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The template "Wikipedia:Signpost/Template:Signpost-article-start" has/had a magic word in it. I removed it. The magic word is/was "__NOEDITSECTION__".
Here's the diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Signpost/Template:Signpost-article-start&diff=382340651&oldid=369648062
Like I said, I deleted it, and assuming nobody put it back, you now have a section edit link in the section of every article of every edition of Signpost! I believe the reason the magic word was in there was to prevent editing of the sections of Signpost's published articles. Once published, they're historical documents, and so inviting editors to edit their sections may not be appropriate.
One solution would be to protect all the published articles, and leave those in-progress unprotected. After all, once published, the content shouldn't be changed, except to correct errors. They would in effect be "read only".
If you feel that there should not be a section edit link in all the published Signpost articles, please put the magic word back in or get them all protected.
Another way to do it, so that the section edit links only show up in the articles under development, is to name them with a base page name, and use the conditional expression ("ifexist") to check for the existence of the path of the article including the base page name. Then, only if the article is named using the base page will the magic word __NOEDITSECTION__ apply. But, once you publish each article, you must rename it to the current naming convention (that is, without the base page name), and delete the redirect so that the conditional cannot find the old page name.
I hope I have been of help.
The Transhumanist    20:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Wow, thanks for thorough advice! Unfortunately, that was the wrong page - I was asking about this table (not the actual stories linked from there); it's a list of all our stories with their current status, and some notes. We were hoping to find a way to include an [edit] link on each box there, and I wondered if you knew how to achieve that? So, for each coloured box, an edit link - not to edit the article page, but to edit the contents of that box. Apologies if I was unclear, and thanks for your time. — Pretzels Hii! 23:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, you can't, because each box is generated, including the headings. The contents of each box is the notes field, and you edit each of those by clicking on "edit" for the whole section. The Transhumanist    18:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

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Template feedback (not mine though)

Hi Pretzels! :) I hope you're well. An editor expressed feedback about the newsroom template (in particular, the one we use under the "Next issue" heading). In particular, the editor felt that there should be edit tabs for each commenting space (near each report) rather than just pressing the edit tab near "Next issue" where the whole table loads up. I don't think many of us know how to respond to it properly, or whether to accept/reject it or request more input on it...but as you're one of our template gurus, I thought I better let you know about it. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your message! I was hoping to implement this before, but ran into a bunch of difficulties because of the way it's fed by parameters. I'll have another look, but I can't promise anything :) — Pretzels Hii! 21:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure I know how it can be done, even after reading related docs. I've asked User:The Transhumanist for advice. — Pretzels Hii! 21:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Ncm, thanks for taking care of my promise to SandyGeorgia, while I was still busy with publication ;)
Pretzels, I was going to mention the additional issue that it is rather easy to mess up large parts of the discussion by leaving a wikilink open in one's comment ([[like this]). It has happened to me more than once and the first time it took me a bit to figure out what had happened. I vaguely recall that someone's signature caused such a problem, too.
I guess this is difficult to prevent (I have seen it with other templates too), but I wanted to note it in case you knew a solution.
Regards, HaeB (talk) 22:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps each story could have a subheading and table of its own and all of these tables then fall under the one header? But would that mean the table would look disjointed and the page would be slower to load? Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
That is the obvious solution, but I'm not sure it would be better than what we have now. — Pretzels Hii! 02:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Uppercase -> Small-caps

Has gone from classy-looking to icky, ickiness in the last 24 hours. Could you revert thos eparts of your edits pro tem? It's late here, I might think of a better solution in the morning, but for the moment the text looks awful for me... :( - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 21:18, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, damn it! I changed the templates specifically to try and fix that! I'd become aware that the small-caps setting can appear blurry on some setups (screenshot, so I switched the code to just use smaller text in all uppercase. Could you post a screenshot of what looks bad about the new version? Or is it just the overall look? — Pretzels Hii! 21:45, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Basically it turned into SHOUTING-type titles, where before they were a lot less in-your-face. But no end-of-the-world scenario, certainly. That screenshot is worrying... - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 18:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

If you still need help with template coding, User:Jack Merridew and User:MZMcBride are very skilled and I would recommend asking one of them. If anyone can pull off some magic with templates it would be one of them. -- œ 16:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Cool - thanks for the advice! — Pretzels Hii! 16:23, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

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Additional cover-item formats

Hi, I would be grateful if you could have a look at this and tell me what you think. It should be very useful for automating some parts of the publication process.

Regards. HaeB (talk) 23:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

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Shared IP

Hi Pretzels. Checking in with you on the symbols for Shared IP. If you're still interested, I'd be pleased to work with you and offer help and advice to the extent you may desire it. I didn't want you to depart discouraged. I do think the symbols need work, and I expect from your work you have good graphics skills. Let me know. Cheers. --Bsherr (talk) 16:52, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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Signpost layout

Hi Pretzels, this doesn't work - the first parameter in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Issue is always set to the date of the current (i.e. last published) issue, so at the moment we have every single Signpost story in the archive displaying "2010-11-01" in the header...

Thanks for fixing the issue with the section titles in the single page view. But it would be nicer to have them visible there, too, do you see a solution for that?

And have you gotten around to have a look at this yet? It would be a great improvement for the publication process.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Aha, thanks for looking out! Fixed the first one right away, I honestly hadn't noticed. Oops. The single page view is a difficult one; I don't have anything now, but will keep it in mind. You're right, it would be better with the subtitles present.
And yes, would love to work on Template:Signpost/item - do we have any admins currently on the team who could unprotect it for a few weeks? — Pretzels Hii! 01:45, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't necessarily mean you should make the edit yourself. I asked you to check the code because you are obviously the person who is most familiar with the system, and because this is definitely something that can benefit from a second pair of eyes - I wouldn't want to mess up a few hundred Signpost pages at once... Ragesoss has just been so kind to unprotect it.
Regards, HaeB (talk) 17:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Super - it should all be in place now. I've made the changes to the template with not too much trouble, and appended the output of each parameter to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Publishing for easy access. I'm not sure what the ideal output for the Book format is, so I've left that for you to deal with as you please. — Pretzels Hii! 02:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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With respect, I feel a consensus was agreed that the page should stay, hence my removal of your tag. I love the signpost by the way! Weternhuttle (talk) 03:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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Visual novel

The Ouran Host Club visual novel was released for PlayStation 2 on April 19, 2007 by Idea Factory. Based on the television series, the player makes decisions as Haruhi that affect the other hosts feelings toward her. The game features the characters of Jean-Pierre Léo, a long-time French friend of Tamaki, and Sayuri Himemiya, a childhood friend of Haruhi, designed by the series creator. There are two other original characters. The game has been released exclusively in Japan. A Nintendo DS port of the game, updated with a fully voiced cast and new character-specific scenarios, was released on March 19, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.148.178 (talk) 02:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Praise for the Signpost layout

Hi, I thought you might enjoy reading these comments by Sj (dated January but apparently published last week), who appears to think the best thing about the Signpost is its "excellent" layout templates ;) And perhaps you already saw that they have been partly reused for the WMF's "This month in GLAM".

We still need talk page links and archives for the Single page view though ;)

Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:43, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, much appreciated! :) --— Pretzels Hii! 17:35, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
I did erm... borrow most of the Signpost's layout for TMIG. But that's because it looks so great. Regards, Rock drum Ba-dumCrash (Driving well?) 17:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
And you're more than welcome to! Wiki wiki! --— Pretzels Hii! 23:05, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

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