User talk:Tizio/Archive3

Thank you for completing my AFD request. Looking over it now, it is obvious there is a third step. Thanks again, and I will be more careful in the future. Reimelt 13:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

..and for mine. I've found every other part of W a breeze, but that 3-step is really silly, thanks for sorting it.--Snori 16:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...and for me too. I wondered why it wasn't getting more comments. --Calair 14:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

incomplete AfD noms

how do you find them all? - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I use a script, of course. I am now authorized for an automated one-week trial of a week using the account User:DumbBOT (see there for an explanation of how the script works). Some other ones came from Category:Pages for deletion. (Liberatore, 2006). 16:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, there is also a list of nominations that cannot be completed automatically (because no rationale was given). If you have time, you may help sorting out User:DumbBOT/IncompleteAfD: if no rationale is given, the AfD tag can be deleted, or the nomination completed. (Liberatore, 2006). 16:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aha

A bot with an original name! Finally! I like it!--Andeh 12:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I was almost going to requrest a username change... I realized that tawkerbot is run by tawker, crypticbot is run by cryptic, werdnabot is run by werdna... so... DumbBOT is run by... ;-) (Liberatore, 2006). 15:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some questions...

Hi Paolo! Just discovered the good work of DumbBOT. I also noticed the page User:DumbBOT/IncompleteAfD. Being at a lose end, I went through the entries and found a tonne of vandalism to revert, CSDs to delete and confused new users to... do other things with.

My questions are:

Would it help DumbBOT if I watchlisted the page and manually empty it (by reversion, deletion and/or creating the AfDs) whenever I'm bored?
If so, does it help DumbBOT if I clear the page manually afterward, or should I leave this up to DumbBOT to do when he does his next rounds?

Thanks! ➨ ЯEDVERS 20:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks. For all nominations but the ones in the last section (Subpage not listed) DumbBOT just lists the pages without taking any other action. If you have time, it surely helps if you fix these nominations. Feel free to edit the list accordingly.

For the last kind of nominations (Subpage not listed) DumbBOT has a function for completing them, and it uses a local list (not the wiki page). I need to check them to remove the "bad" ones, but since the other ones are easy to fix automatically, I'd use the bot on them. (Liberatore, 2006). 15:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hello

El proyecto Wikinovela es similar al proyecto que se está llevando en wikia: [1] [2] o a los proyectos que wikimedia un día que trataron impulsar [3]. Es cierto que no es tan popular que una wiki-enciclopedia. Mi intención era de colocarlo porque ustedes tienen una categoría de wikicomunidades: [4], y hay también unas comunidades tan impopulares como: [5][6], Ya se que wikipedia no es un directorio, bueno casi, y a veces si, siempre y cuando cumpla algunas condiciones etc. Bueno le dejos esos datos para que entienda que pudo haber sido un error borrar ese artículo. de así a primera sin conocer todo el background. En cuando la wikipedia en español, me parece desasertado. tambien piensan borrar litblog digo la entrada litblgo en español [7] por ser una fuente primaria. Yo creo que también deberías pensar en borrarla litblog aquí porque allá existe una botasion de vorrado. Bueno te dejo esas inquietudes para si de pronto vuelven a crearlo, y si lo impiden, ni modos, uno haces sus pequeñas colaboraciones a las wikipedias si no son bienvendias es mejor que uno se dedique a otra actividad. Y por favor no responda a este mensaje. pues de todas formas acepto la buena voluntad de los sipsops y pienso que algunos tratan de hacer su papel wikipedico lo más posible. De todas formas te doy un par de estrellas por tu labor: * * *, y saludos. --199.26.15.75 15:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template is being modified by additional comments on a person's user page

I think User:Adambiswanger1 might have added the entire template to someone's talk page on accident.

Which means any additional messages, like my own, to User:Dkalkin will actually change the template.[8]

Please see: User_talk:DKalkin#AfD and User_talk:DKalkin#Re:Talk:American_Empire.23New_edit

thanks Travb (talk) 17:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adw

Really? Is that true with all templates? Anyway, thanks for letting me know. AdamBiswanger1 18:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Witicisms

Question: what does "trite witicisms" [2] mean? Is it meant to be an insult? (Liberatore, 2006). 19:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

It means that these school debates are inevitably filled with droll sarcasms and endlessly-repeated arguments. It's a comment about the process, not an individual. So no need to take offense. :-/ — RJH (talk) 22:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dated copyright categories

I am in the process of changing the copyvio template to be similar to Template:Prod so that it will automatically put copyright violations in a dated category like CAT:PROD. Do you think that DumbBOT would be most appropriate to set up these categories, because it is the bot that already sets up dated categories for CAT:PROD, or do you think User:Zorglbot would be more appropriate, because it is otherwise involved with copyright page maintenance? —Centrx→talk • 03:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can make DumbBOT create these categories with minimal effort (because it is already set up for doing a similar task). Other than that, I have no objection if Shultz wants his bot to take this task (Liberatore, 2006). 11:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that sounds great. I have implemented the new template, and once the bot is set up, I will change the instructions on WP:CP. Thank you! You can see the new templates at Template:Copyvio and Template:Dated copyvio, if you have any recommendations. Do you think that once set up it should more prominently display that the template should be subst'ituted? (Though nowhere near as alarming as what Prod does) —Centrx→talk • 04:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It puts dated copyvios in Category:Possible copyright violations as of DAY MONTH YEAR, and undated ones in Category:Possible copyright violations, the same category they were in before. Here are dated and undated examples. As you may notice, I did a little gymnastics in order to get it to appear the same with and without the subst, while still using the dynamic dating. This is functional, but if you have any cleaner suggestions for this, that would be great. —Centrx→talk • 06:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio should definitely subst, as otherwise it shows the current date instead of the day of tagging. The idea was that {{subst:prod}} generates {{dated-prod|date of prodding}}. Actually, the use of two separate templates was exactly because of the need of subst'ing the current date, so that it does not change after the template is placed.

Let me know when you need the categories to be created. If needed, I can also generate a list like WP:PRODSUM (Liberatore, 2006). 17:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The date substitution works. Categories can be added as soon as you like. A summary would be helpful, if it is not too much trouble for you. One thing I would be concerned about it is, with a summary the closing administrator might be tempted to or accidentally skip over checking the page history and checking the discussion page, which are part of the copyvio process. But the categories as soon as possible would great; there are over 900 copyright violations in the category now, and it keeps going up because it is too difficult to check it, with recent ones mingled with the old ones. —Centrx→talk • 20:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hold off on this. As often happens, when I was bringing this issue up on the Administrator's noticeboard and the relevant talk pages for the past week and a half, no one objected, but now that I actually did something about it, people start commenting on it. —Centrx→talk • 21:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Contested prod"

I hope you read my comment in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nitcentral. I know I'm being anal here, but could you strike out the contested prod part? Thanks. --mboverload @ 07:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I guess the same goes for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave and Adam's Card World (Liberatore, 2006). 09:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Noads4

Thanks for your help with the template and the info on the correct process. --Paul E. Ester 22:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hard Freeze

Oops... yes, that's what I was trying to do. SB_Johnny | ^talk 20:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks... I was going to TW it too, then read the template and thought it had been done "by magic"... then got too busy and didn't get around to checking for it on WT. SB_Johnny | ^talk 23:07, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template

That did not take long... heres a new one template:cheeseburger --Paul E. Ester 23:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If he goes on like this after the block expires, it certainly makes sense to think to an indef block. (Liberatore, 2006). 11:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nitcentral

Hi, thanks, although closes that focus on the discussion part instead of the voting part are the ones that most often end up at WP:VFU. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one. - Bobet 15:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Paolo Liberatore/TimeSortedCopyvio

I find this very useful. —Centrx→talk • 21:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If needed, I could keep this updated by making the script generating it running scheduled (say, once a week?). Since I need to request permission for that, and I have to specify how this is useful, can you tell me how are you currently using it? I also currently have an outstanding request at WP:BRFA for approval of a function for completing copyvio noms; this can indeed by completely automated. (Liberatore, 2006). 10:32, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It caught several old pages that are in the category but were never dealt with. There used to be a manually run script that listed pages from the category onto WP:CP, but a) it didn't catch those old ones for some reason; and b) it seems to be gone, it hasn't been run for almost a month. Here is an example, the last time it was run, July 25. —Centrx→talk • 20:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for supporting that request for bot approval! Some of these requests take lot of time before being approved. (Liberatore, 2006). 07:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Your completion of my earlier AfD

The Editor's Barnstar

I, badbilltucker, hereby award The Editor's Barnstar to Paolo Liberatore, for his regular and valuable assistance in helping those of us who have incorrectly placed AfDs to get them correctly done and considered. Badbilltucker 17:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! (Liberatore, 2006). 23:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prod Summary down?

I'm looking at WP:PRODSUM and it says that it was last updated on the 23rd. It's still creating the categories okay, though. Is the bot throwing a temper tantrum with regards to culling all the prods? --Signed and Sealed, JJJJust (T C) 17:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the bot is not creating the categories; these are created three days in advance. The computer where the bot runs is currently down; an attempt to reboot it has been done this afternoon, with no success (this is not good). I hope to have it restarted on Sunday or maybe Monday. (Liberatore, 2006). 18:14, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:DumbBOT

The bot is now awaiting your input.Voice-of-All 03:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your notice, but I cannot find any place where my input is requested. Can you be more specific? In the request for bot approvals I am the one waiting for a response from the approvals group. (Liberatore, 2006). 09:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Malfunctioning DumbBOT?

Check this out. Removed legit noms, I think. (|-- UlTiMuS 23:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out. For some reason, the bot listed as incompete some noms that were indeed complete. While removing some duplicate ones, I removed also one that were not added by the bot (this should have generated an edit conflict, I don't know why that didn't happen): this is the second one in the edit you pointed out; the first one appeared to have already been listed on August 23. I am currently in the process of verifying and removing some other ones. (Liberatore, 2006). 00:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thankee-sai

Thanks for completing my AFD. Still not sure what step I missed...I followed the instructions. Oh well! SnaX 02:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Since you asked: according to the list of your contribution, it appears you have skipped the last step (see Template:AfD_in_3_steps), that is, including the discussion in the page that lists all discussions of the day. (Liberatore, 2006). 09:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hmmm, thanks. I remember doing that step...and looking back at the instructions, I certainly did do it. I guess I did something wrong. will have to pay more attention next time. thanks again. SnaX 13:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstarred!

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		For the extremely useful, indeed essential, DumbBOT, without which WP:PROD would be much harder to manage. Herostratus 16:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously man. Speaking for myself, without DumbBOT I couldn't monitor WP:PROD at all, although I know others are able to do so using the categories. It's a wicked good thing. Herostratus 16:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! (Liberatore, 2006). 17:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hezbollah Manifesto draft on my user page

Hi, thanks, I don't want the article deleted. I was working on it in the main space and Zoe tagged it for deletion so I moved it to my user space to work on it further. I had removed the tag and Zoe told me not to so I replaced it. Elizmr 22:50, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

redirtects

just drop me a note when you are ready for them to be subsuted Betacommand 15:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DumbBOT

The task has been approved for a trial given one condition[9] here.Voice-of-All 02:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect completion?

Could you explain to me what was incomplete with the listing for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Cobra Special Forces? DumbBot "completed" it, but I can't find anything it really did. Fram 11:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see from this, the subpage was only transcluded from the afd of today (not of yesterday): adding the subpage to the afd of today was what DumbBOT did. A little investigation revealed the cause of the problem: a missing bracket in this edit. Since the subpage was actually only transcluded as of today, I'll remove the incomplete transclusion from the log of yesterday (Liberatore, 2006). 11:39, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

request

Hi Paolo, is it possible to run your bot for incomplete list in Afd and copyright problems pages on tr:wiki. If it is possible, i'll help for modifying necessary parts. Cheers --Ugur Basak 11:51, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the procedure for afd/copyvio is the same, that could certainly be possible. Can you please provide a link to the appropriate pages/templates in that language? (Liberatore, 2006). 12:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is also a second possibility, which is usually easier to set up and maintain: I have a script for producing a list of articles in a category listed in the order of date in which articles entered the category (this is actually complicated by moves, but these are not very common); see for example User:DumbBOT/TimeSortedAfD. This sub-optimal because unlisted articles only become evident when they are old, but is also more robust wrt changes in the templates and/or processes. (Liberatore, 2006). 12:36, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Paolo, tr:Vikipedi:Telif sorunları is for copyvio this seems to be same, and this is tr:Vikipedi:Silinmeye aday maddeler/Kayıt/2006 Eylül Sam page for September, we don't have 100 article/day so we use montly SAM page. Actually i couldn't understand TimeSortedAfD, does it only sort or it sorts and add it to copyvio or afd pages.

templates for afd: tr:Template:sam

templates for copyvio: tr:Template:telifihlal (for articles) and tr:Template:resimihlal (for images) --Ugur Basak 09:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TimeSortedAfD is only a list; it may be useful and is easy to generate, but is actually not a very good solution. It helps detecting unlisted nominations, but does complete them.

The main problem is that completing an afd nomination cannot be always done automatically; for example, completing cannot be done when the nominator has not created the subpage; there are too many possible mistakes nominators can do to run a bot in a completely automated way: the nominations that my bot completed are actually checked by me before I let the bot completing them.

Copyvios are instead easier to complete. Also, I see from the links you provided that there are currently 2 articles that are up for deletion and 136 copyvios; that's what results from the respective categories. If these amounts are typical, I guess a good solution may be to only detect incomplete afd nominations but complete copyvio ones. (Liberatore, 2006). 14:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As you said afd is not difficult to maintain and just a list can help us. But maintance of copyvio page will be very helpful. So using your bot in detecting incomplete afd nominations and auto-complete missed copyvios will be great. --Ugur Basak 17:18, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The copyvio script is (almost) ready. I only need a couple of things:

I need a translation for the edit summary (I currently use "Some incomplete nominations", feel free to change this) and for "the bot could not detect a url";
The bot currently does not create the subpages, only appends to them if they exist; this shouldn't be a problem as I see that the subpages are created in advance
The copyvio category includes a subcategory tr:Kategori:Kaynak_belirtilmemiş_ama_olası_telif_ihlali_olarak_işaretlenmiş_maddeler; I assumed that these articles are supposed to be listed as well

Everything else appear to work correctly; there are currently 9 unlisted copyvios (all articles) (Liberatore, 2006). 13:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now i checked, it's really very good. I'll reply all of them

"Some incomplete nominations" -> "Bazı tamamlanmamış adaylar", "feel free to change this" -> "bunu değiştirmekten çekinmeyiniz", and "the bot could not detect a url" "bot bir url adresi bulamadı"
I guess you say subpages like tr:Vikipedi:Telif sorunları/2006 Eylül 18, there is no problem about it. If there'll be a problem, i'll try to help.
That category adds articles articles without url addresses. If they will be listed, it'll be good.

I see no problem, actually i guess your bot will not do many edits, but a user from tr:wiki want you to request for bot status. I'll explain there, my request and your willingness to help. If there'll be any problems, i'll try to help you. Cheers --Ugur Basak 08:48, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Almost everything seems to be in order. The bot actually adds unlisted copyvios to the copyvio page, together with urls (if it founds them); in the first run. the bot found nine unlisted article and no image, resulting in this edit. The timesortedcopyvio is a page I created for my own convenience, to check whether the bot is missing some unlisted page. The only problem I found is that on tr: a bot cannot add a new url to a page (users trying to add new urls are confronted a CAPTCHA). As a result, I had to convert urls into text. I guess a bot flag will solve the problem.

The pages that need to be present are tr:Vikipedi:Telif_sorunları/2006_Eylül_18/Maddeler and similar; I have seen that a user creates them (if needed, I also could make the bot create them). This is however not a problem: if the bot cannot add unlisted copyvios on one day, it will list them the day after. (Liberatore, 2006). 12:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tizio (your new name:)), sorry for responding late. I don't understnad problem about adding urls to page. Is it really necessary to get bot flag? Btw thanks again for your bot. Cheers --Ugur Basak 11:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem went away: it might be a limitation for new users. I don't need the bot flag; I made the request because, from the request below, I understood that all bots need to be approved (as it is on en:) even if they do not need the flag. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 12:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your Bot on tr:wikipedia

Please, could you apply for a bot flag on tr:vikipedi:botlar ? --katputuka @ tr: 15:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Done. (Liberatore, 2006). 16:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rightsproletariat

Thanks for catching this! FreplySpang 13:53, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

please create Category:Proposed deletion as of 20 September 2006

Your bot usually creates categories like Category:Proposed deletion as of 20 September 2006 a few days before they are needed, but it hasn't created Category:Proposed deletion as of 20 September 2006 or Category:Proposed deletion as of 21 September 2006 yet. I didn't want to create them myself in case that would case problems. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 06:09, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification. That was indeed due to an half-baked change I made, which led the bot to believe that the categories were already created. Everything is fixed now. Thanks again! (Liberatore, 2006). 11:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Deletion template change has caused trouble

Look at this page: Shotgun type candles. Something has gone wrong with the proposed deletion template. I have no idea what's gone on here, perhaps you can fix this? --Xyzzyplugh 14:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I implemented a temporary fix. Thanks for notifying me. I am working on that. (Liberatore, 2006). 14:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've had the same problem with CyberPatrol and FRANK (edit conflict) — Tivedshambo (talk to me/look at me/ignore me) — 14:54, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing those - seems to be working now — Tivedshambo (talk to me/look at me/ignore me) — 15:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the template and removed all offending lines from the articles where it was added, so everything should be fixed now. (Liberatore, 2006). 15:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DumbBOT

Is there any particular reason that your bot creates prod subcats 4 days in advance? The bot runs every day, so there's no need to make the pages more than a day before the actual date, and it's confusing, since you can't just count the amount of categories in there to see which need to be deleted, you have to make sure you don't count the 3 days ahead of today because they're already there. --Rory096 23:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes (fortunately, not very often), the computer where the script runs is down or not connected to the network. In particular, in compliance with Murphy's law, Internet connection often go down on Friday evening, and the network administrator is only back to fix it on Monday. Incidentally, the problem you mention could be solved by changing the text of a category when all articles it contains are at least five days old. (Liberatore, 2006). 12:17, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surely that doesn't outweigh the cons of having categories several days in advance. If the computer goes down, people can easily manually create it; it's done in many other places with no problem (and it doesn't even matter if the category is created a day or two after the day passes). Changing the text would be possible, but is a bit of a waste, requiring more edits and another category to put the expired prod cats in. --Rory096 20:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Either way, administrators shouldn't be relying on counting how many categories are there for deletion, even if I accept to create the category only one day in advance. Suppose the bot fails to create the category for a day; then, you'll see only five categories and do no deletions on that day? (Liberatore, 2006). 20:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In your scenario the "which will put the article in Category:Proposed deletion as of CURRENTDATE." would be redlinked, so the admin would immediately know that the current day doesn't have a cat yet, and could easily create it with the press of 2 buttons. However, when there are 10 categories in CAT:PROD, it's annoying if you have to actually check if there are categories from 4 days ahead of today, as in every other dated category system that I know of there are rarely, if ever, cats from days after the current day. --Rory096 23:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wait a minute... you wouldn't do any deletion anyway, so I possibly missed your point. (Liberatore, 2006). 20:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are the "cons" of having the categories in advance? You have to look down at the clock on your computer and subtract 5 days? —Centrx→talk • 20:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's much harder than just counting, while just changing the number of days in advance the bot creates cats is very easy. --Rory096 23:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suppose I start creating categories only one day in advance and admins start using the number of categories to check which articles are to be deleted. Then someone else, unknowingly or on purpose, decides to create one category in advance. Then, all admins would delete categories of only 4 days ago? Why not? Because administrators have to check the dates anyway?

Deletion requires some care: an administrator has to check that the prod tag has been on the article for 5 day continously, that the prod'ed version was not the result of vandalism, that the prod reason is acceptable (possibly checking the talk page), then has to delete the article reporting this reason, possibly deleting the talk page, and finally checking the incoming links. Before starting doing this on every article in the category this adimin relies on the number of categories instead of calculating five days to today? (Liberatore, 2006). 19:22, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but it makes things harder for those who don't have to look at the dates, see 10 cats there and tag it backlogged, which wastes an admins time. Basically, all I'm saying is that I don't see the reason why your bot creates the cats 4 days in advance, though it really doesn't matter that much. --Rory096 23:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason has been clearly given: there will be stretches of time when the bot does not run for whatever reason (e.g. failure). If someone is daft enough to tag it as backlogged it is trivially simple to remove the tag. It is also trivially simple to recognize when a date is more than 5 days ago. —Centrx→talk • 23:59, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:DumbBOT/TimeSortedPD

Excellent! You may be aware of User:Kotepho/reports/deleted page by cl timestamp, which is what I have been using in these long, hard months of deleting and evaluating deleted pages, but that must be manually generated and only includes pages in the main namespace, whereas from looking at the DumbBOT clearly excludes a lot of pages that should be dealt with.

Perhaps it isn't important, but is it possible for the bot to indicate other things like the dates of the times it was deleted in the past and whether it has a non-deleted talk page? These are what I look at when dealing with these pages. It's not really important but it would reduce a lot of unnecessary clicks and in sum would save time. Thanks again. —Centrx→talk • 21:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I have added links to talk pages and logs. Adding the times of deletion would certainly be possible, but the generated page is already quite big, and at least the last time of deletion is close to the date of categorization. I'll consider adding these times in the future. (Liberatore, 2006). 14:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

As requested, I have renamed you as User:Tizio. You should now move your userpages to the new username, and recreate and block this account to prevent impersonation. Warofdreams talk 23:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

T-Bones Chophouse and Lounge

Why did you protect this page? The issue of merging before deleting and redirecting was resolved over a month ago! There is no reason for protecting this page at all. Vegaswikian 17:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't protected this redirect; it was protected already. I only added the category Category:Protected redirects to it. You can see the protection log here. If you want it redirect, you may check with the administrator who protected it first. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 18:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:DumbBOT/UsernameChange

This would be a useful page - are you planning to regularly update it? Warofdreams talk 19:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If considered useful, yes, I can have the bot updating it at scheduled times. Actually, I was thinking about adding details about the current and requested name directly to Wikipedia:Changing username. Note, however, that it's not always possible to uniquely parse the names; as an example, one of the requests included a part between parentheses which is not in that case part of the name. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 20:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletedpages

Old deleted-protected pages should just be deleted, rather than fixing their template. —Centrx→talk • 06:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 10:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway, I am currently fixing articles that are protected (deleted, redirects, or otherwise) so that they are correctly categorized. Deleting a deleted-protected article requires checking why it was protected in the first place (e.g., I am not deleting an article that was protected under WP:OFFICE), and I cannot afford doing that for all articles at the moment. Once these articles are correctly categorized, other administrators can evalutate whether they are to be unprotected or deleted. If I spot an article that is protected for a long time and can be unprotected or deleted, I do that, but I obviously may miss some ones. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 11:11, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm not exactly sure what I was referring to here, and I tried to look back and compare both our contributions around that time. We can only assume that Wallace Atop Spheres hijacked my account temporarily and left this mysterious message. —Centrx→talk • 01:01, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question about deleted article

I'm curious as to why the article on The Willard Preacher was deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Willard+Preacher

Sorry, i'm not sure how to create links, or if this is ths correct place to ask.

Thanks! - pete0r→talk

closing afd's properly

Brookie here - you kundly closed off the Romantic Man Love afd properly - is there a template for doing this? I don't usually get involved in these. Many thanks Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 04:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ansell/List of political sex scandals in the United States

Sorry if that page looks like an article. Thanks for the notice though :) Cheers, Ansell 07:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Importance

Thanks for setting up that report. Is there any way I could backdate the older articles so thay could be listed? --Peta 00:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Using the current method, there is none. The template could be converted into a something similar to {{prod}}, but I do not think this is worth the effort. Something I can do quite easily is to add a direct link to the history for the pages in the list. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 11:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively could you create a list of tagged articles that aren't being monitored by the bot; I can then work through them deleting/tagging as necessary. --Peta 04:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get this. All articles that are tagged are in the category, and are therefore listed in the report. The problem is that a large number of these articles are listed with a date "2006 06 20". You may copy and paste these entries to a subpage of yours. The only articles that are tagged but not in the list are those where {{subst:importance}} has been used, and it's virtually impossible to identify these. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 13:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I misunderstood; I though that articles tagged before 2006 06 20 were not being reported. Thanks. --Peta 02:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found a relatively easy way to find the actual time of insertion of the importance templates: take a look at User:DumbBOT/Importance. The time is that of the last edit in which the page aquired one of the importance templates; however, the report is based only on the first 100 edits of the page (the second list is made of articles on which these templates have not been added in the first 100 edits). Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 05:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Neat. Thanks again. --Peta 03:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CP Bot help

Would it be possible for DumbBot to take over Zorglbot's normal work on the WP:CP page (creating new day listings, archiving listings past 7 days old)? Zorglbot appears to be out of commission, and I was hoping that your bot (which is the only one I could think of that does copyright stuff) could help. --Robth^Talk 05:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is possible, but I am a little busy at the moment. I'll give it a try tomorrow afternoon. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 13:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for looking into it. --Robth^Talk 15:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The bot is set up, and should run at around 23:10 (wikipedia time). I have also informed User:Schutz on how to stop my bot when his can restart. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 15:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You da man. --Robth^Talk 04:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User Republican

Could you delete this page? It is a broken redirect and qualifies for deletion per WP:CSD R1. Thank you! — Moe 21:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was also a protected for quite a long time now, and it seems that the other deleted protected userboxes are gone as well. I have deleted it. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 05:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfB With A Smile :)

Username change and new account

I asked for a username change on WP:CHU and you said that someone had registered that account. It definitely wasn't me, and it looks suspicious considering it happened to I@n as well.

What can be done about it? Usurping, deletion of the other user, or what? ajdlinux 04:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This has been done for other requests following yours. It's obviously the same person. I suggested usurpation (I do not see how the user rename process can work otherwise). My guess is that the issue will be solved in a couple of days. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 13:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of male porn stars

I want a reason why you add the list of male porn stars for deletation. fizzerbear 14:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The list is redundant since there is already Category:Male porn stars, which contains the same information; since categories are easier to maintain than lists, I have nominated the list for deletion. Note that I'll not nominate the category for deletion. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 14:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you've made your point and I couldn't agree more with you. That list has been suffering from vandalism and it will be ok to have just the category. fizzerbear 15:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]