Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annette McCarthy

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The result was keep. Rough consensus was that the actor's body of work over a period of time, as well as coverage received, satisfied the relevant notability guidelines. (non-admin closure) Etzedek24 ^{(I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record)} 23:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Annette McCarthy

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With one borderline significant role (Twin Peaks), does not meet WP:NACTOR, and doesn't meet WP:GNG. Simply a working actress for a few years. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Significant roles include famous cult arc on TWIN PEAKS, hired directly by David Lynch himself, plus the 1985 cult horror movie CREATURE, a famous episode of RIPTIDE that parodied MOONLIGHTING and was written about in Entertainment Weekly and The LA Times, that got buzz at the time for mocking/parodying "Moonlighting", which beat it in the ratings, leading to "Riptide"'s cancellation. (She played a mock version of Cybill Shepherd's role.) Also an arc on BAYWATCH and multiple major TV shows in the 80s and 90s (incl. St. Elsewhere, The Twilight Zone, Happy Days, Beauty and the Beast, Magnum, P.I., The Fall Guy, and Night Court), plus a string of TV and feature films. Her arc in Twin Peaks was quite long (half a dozen or so episodes) notable for a few reasons - her arc came during a much-maligned sequence of weaker episodes and her arc was one of the most-notorious, giving her a lot of cult attention at the time and still in the fandom. One of her episodes was notable too for being one of Diane Keaton's first and last directing ventures in TV, very noteworthy at the time. I know notability isn't inherited but comes from a mini acting dynasty too (niece of actress Joan Hackett). Retired now but once quite notable, major credits AND sources on page, passes WP:NACTOR plus definite "cult status". -- --HistoricalAccountings (talk) 18:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - plenty of evidence for WP:NACTOR. Bearian (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - a good number of minor roles and several bigger ones adds up to a reasonable body of work over a lifetime, covered in multiple sources, so I think it just meets WP:NACTOR. Much improved over the earlier fanboi-ish versions. Lard Almighty (talk) 08:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete: As for now, having appeared on several episodes of two large franchises is better than most articles nominated here. However, I am not entirely convinced of HistoricalAccountings praise for McCarthy's supposed cult status without any sources to draw from as most of the citations in the article is just a reference to her credits rather than anything that pertains to her cultural relevancy. — BriefEdits (talk) 01:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment: I think the articles on RIPTIDE (the ones that still exist, like The LA Times one) and essays (pop cultural and academic) in books on the TWIN PEAKS role plus coverage on that in everything from TV Guide to NY Times attest to her cult status (some of which are cited in the article) and those roles along with BAYWATCH, the cult movie CREATURE as well, plus a string of major TV shows and quite a few TV and feature films should be enough for WP:NACTOR and cult horror/sci-fi status, as the projects are a variety of cult and mainstream. There are other articles and interviews by the Twin Peaks fandom that might go towards that cult status (plus more probably for the horror/sci-fi movie and other TV show fandoms), plus explains some of the directors she worked with, the poor critical reception and the allusions to classic movies, but I don't think they can be included in the article itself due to their nature. Here's a few of the TP ones off the bat.HistoricalAccountings (talk) 01:57, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://detroederum.wordpress.com/boger/tv-peaks/annette-mccarthy/

https://www.lostinthemovies.com/2017/04/evelyn-marsh-twin-peaks-character.html

https://charlesevans.medium.com/twin-peaks-the-second-season-a-look-back-and-why-you-dont-have-to-hate-it-just-because-bdff9e2e6358

https://25yearslatersite.com/2017/08/25/the-surprising-other-reason-for-the-twin-peaks-allusion-to-sunset-boulevard/

Comment - appearing in episodic television as a guest is not considered significant roles. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I don't think that's a blanket rule. I think it depends on the role, the series, what type of attention it gets, plus while some of these are single episodes, others are multi-episode arcs, and there are TV movie and feature film roles too. --HistoricalAccountings (talk) 02:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The article has since been expanded and more sources added. Overall, I think it clearly shows significant roles alongside smaller roles, major TV franchises and movies, more than enough for WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. -- HistoricalAccountings (talk) 18:18, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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