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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎ . This whole discussion is a train wreck and the only way to save it would be to start over from square one. Future discussions should start with a cogent argument, based on policy, explaining why this article should be deleted. If it is a content fork, how is it one. If the subject is not notable, a source analysis of how the general notability guideline is not met. People responding to it should review our list of poor arguments and avoid them. -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 19:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-China terrorism in Pakistan

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In this article, the facts are shown in a twisted way. Therefore, it is suggested to delete this article. Give your opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nooruddin2020 (talk • contribs)

  • Delete: I believe this article violates neutral point of view policy. Specifically, I have identified several examples of content on the page that present a biased or one-sided view of the topic without sufficient evidence to support such a view. For instance, the page appears to present a negative view of China and its relationship with Pakistan without taking into account important context or counterarguments. The information presented seems to rely heavily on anecdotal evidence or speculation rather than reliable sources, which undermines the credibility of the content. Terrorism is a broad topic and an issues in general in Pakistan, so making a point that only China is targeted in Pakistan is very biased rather both countries are cooperating to counter terrorism. Furthermore, I have found evidence from reputable sources that contradicts some of the claims made on the page. For example, 1, 2, 3 provides a more nuanced perspective on the issue that highlights the complexities and nuances of China's relationship with Pakistan. Umais Bin Sajjad (talk) 02:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The subject is notable. Not liking the current version (with very vague reasons given) is NOT an argument for deletion. Johnbod (talk) 03:16, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, but rename to Anti-Chinese terrorism in Pakistan, as the subject matter primarily appears to focus on attacks against Chinese people, rather than the nation of China per se. BD2412 T 03:27, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The topic is notable and if the facts are shown in a twisted way, then the solution is to improve the article through normal editing, rather than deleting an article about a notable topic. Cullen328 (talk) 03:37, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:TNT is always a solution to WP:POV WP:OR ridden article. Oriental Aristocrat (talk) 18:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Sources in the article demonstrate notability. A valid deletion rationale has not been provided. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 04:45, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Such a thing does not exist.115.99.241.241 (talk) 06:44, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and improve, obviously notable, as noted above. Please see Reasons for deletion and Alternatives to deletion. Renaming it might be a good idea, since much of the article talks about cooperation between the two countries on counterterrorism. Since the title is potentially controversial, the move should be proposed and discussed to get consensus on a better title. Uncle Spock (talk) 09:10, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Nothing significant in this article. Much of it is already covered in Terrorism in Pakistan. We can't have separate articles for terrorism against every other country. It can be merged with the main article alternatively. Muneebll (talk) 05:05, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In this amount of detail, and all grouped together? Name the "many articles" please. Johnbod (talk) 23:05, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If we remove the Attacks section from the article which is obviously a result of WP:OR, the article is barely left with five references and even those do not support the title/topic of the article. Below is the list you asked for:
Exactly! These areticles don't "cover the topic", they cover specific incidents. A basic function of an encyclopedia is to draw such incidents together and cover the actual topic. Johnbod (talk) 12:56, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again - the topic is notable. Saying the current version is not much good is not a reason for deletion. Johnbod (talk) 12:56, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete

Hi, I think this article must be deleted due to its baseless subject.Engr.ismailbhutta (talk) 15:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Johnbod, Isolated incidents of terror attacks on individuals that happen to be Chinese does not constitute "anti-China terror attacks in Pakistan." There have been attacks on Pakistanis by Pakistanis or by Afghans or Arabs. We don't need an article for "Anti-Pakistan terror attacks in Pakistan." These are attacks on various individuals who just happen to be Pakistani.--Cheel (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is clearly not always the case, especially for BLA attacks, where there is a coherent anti-Chinese policy. This is evidently a super-sensitive topic for many Pakistani editors, but Wikipedia does not accept censorship, which is what some opposes here amount to. Johnbod (talk) 21:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Johnbod: that is already covered at Insurgency in Balochistan, to which the relevant content should be merged. Imagine if someone created [Anti-Israeli terrorism by Palestinians]], which is clearly well documented. Would you not argue deleting and merging that article with Palestinian political violence? VR talk 23:10, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The attacks on Chinese are included in only in some of their total attacks Cheel (talk) 05:38, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete

There is no reason for keeping this article. First of all terrorism is a criminal act and should not be associated with religion, nation or any race. If this article is decided to be kept then every country's article on terrorism should be devided into different articles depending on the people who commitied and which nation or religion was targeted. It can be a heading in the artice "Terrorism in Pakistan". Tahir Mahmood (talk) 08:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: As per Ameen Akbar argument.Obaid Raza (talk) 16:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Nothing significant in this article," "Such a thing does not exist," etc. are the "delete" !votes. None of them make any sense. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 21:50, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RS here: [[5]] and here: [[6]] RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 18:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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