Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B4058 road

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The result was delete. No consensus for deleting the others; being handled at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B5470 road or, it seems, individually. Sam Walton (talk) 19:31, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

B4058 road

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No references to show notability. It seems to follow the Sabre entry but other sources I can find are about temporary traffic issues. — Rod ^talk 17:05, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is anything particularly notable about any of these minor roads (and they're only a small selection of all the B roads in England, I don't really see why these deserve pages rather than all of the hundreds of others). JMWt (talk) 17:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. Fail WP:GNG.Charles (talk) 18:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all I agree Charles, these articles are not notable and should be deleted. Fails, as charles said before, WP:GNG, plus, most articles have no sources. Happy_Attack_Dog (Throw Me a Bone) 18:20, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Only three have no sources - the article nominated here (B4058), B1108 and B1120. Most only cite maps or mentions in travel guides - only the B1110 and B1145 have what may be significant coverage in the sources cited. Peter James (talk) 13:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ~~all~~ per Charles - Non notable roads all of which fail GNG. –Davey2010^Talk 18:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 21:11, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This deletion nomination is only for B4058, the others were not mentioned by the nominator. Those would have to be separate discussions, and some articles (B1110, B1145 and B1149) describe them as formerly major roads - they are less important now but that isn't a reason to delete. Peter James (talk) 13:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. If this AfD finishes with a delete consensus, only B4058 should be deleted (for now). Rcsprinter¹²³ (reason) 12:43, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Is this based on policy or just an opinion?Charles (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's based in the nominator only putting B4058 for deletion. Rcsprinter¹²³ (comment) 14:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's because I'd never come across the others. I am working on the Bristol cleanup list so concentrating on articles related to Bristol (& Somerset) at present. I think it was JMWt who suggested adding the others.— Rod ^talk 14:54, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It was JMWt, but as they are not the nominator of this AfD, their suggestions aren't its subject, and need consensus separately. Rcsprinter₁₂₃ (yarn) 15:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody has answered my question. Would be interested to know. Charles (talk) 18:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's based in the nominator only putting B4058 for deletion. That is the way AfDs work. Rcsprinter¹²³ (interview) 18:34, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Still does not answer the question. What rules are there?Charles (talk) 18:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

just to say I am not necessarily voting delete them all, just pointing out that there are a lot of similar pages - with arguably similar levels of citation and notability, so it is hard to make a statement about this road without considering the context of all the others existing. Furthermore this is about notability not the references on an individual page, and therefore is a question of whether a "B" road (which is officially a minor road) can ever be described as notable. In my opinion, that is the same question which is to be asked about all the pages, regardless of the current state of their references. JMWt (talk) 15:09, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think decisions need to be made on individual cases rather than a blanket "all B roads". There are some minor roads (either B or unnumbered) which are definitely notable - Vicars' Close, Wells comes to mind.— Rod ^talk 15:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

None of the B road articles are anywhere close to being as good articles as that, nor are they as notable as that. That's like comparing apples and pears. It is possible that Vicars' Close, Wells has a B or C designation, which is not notable. JMWt (talk) 15:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Incase anyone cares I've nominated the rest at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B5470 road. –Davey2010^Talk 15:50, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - B roads are rarely notable, this is no exception. Jeni ^(talk) 10:58, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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