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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:29, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Beach Clash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Another non-notable game show. According to TenPoundHammer (talk · contribs):

Only 32 hits on Google for "Beach Clash" + "David Hirsch", and the Encyclopedia of TV Game Shows is the only one on GBooks. Newspapers.com only turned up TV Guide listings.

A ProQuest search for "Beach Clash" + Tv show returned only passing mentions, one-sentence announcements, and TV listings. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 14:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Schwartz, David; Ryan, Steve; Wostbrock, Fred (1995). "Beach Clash". The Encyclopedia of TV Game Shows (2 ed.). New York: Facts on File. p. 12. ISBN 0-8160-3093-6. Retrieved 2023-07-03 – via Internet Archive.

      The book provides 237 words of coverage about the subject. The book notes: ""Beach Clash" was a weekly one-hour competition, taped on the beach at Malibu, California that tested the skill, strength, and endurance of two teams of players. Each team was made up of four players, two contenders (one male and one female) and two "hardbodies," show regulars with names like "Sandy," "Breeze," "Ripper," and "Zuma." ... David Hirsch, who had replaced Dick Clark as host on "American Bandstand" and Alison Armitage of the TV series “Acapulco H.E.A.T." co-hosted, with Olympic Gold Medalist Sherri Howard serving as referee. The teams competed in ten events staged on the sand and in the water including "Hot Air Climb," "Bungee Basketball," "King of the Raft," "Beach Bout," and a "Crash and Burn" finale that included a variety of challenges such as a hill climb, a two-person kayak maneuvering a wave-runner around a course, a sprint and sand-crawl and a rope-swing into a pool."

    2. Bark, Ed (1994-10-22). "'Trashsports' challenge your staying power". The Dallas Morning News. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

      The review provides 204 words of coverage about the subject. The review notes: "About Beach Clash, for instance, starring muscle-headed "Hardbodies" Ripper, Sandy, Zuma and Breeze. ... Beach Clash (midnight Sundays, Channel 11) - The producers must have their heads in the sand. In other words, don't believe co-host Alison Armitage when she says ... Not to brag, but I do more amazing things with my body by rolling out of bed most days. These competitions, ranging from Hill Climb to Beach Bout, are strictly Dullsville, man. ... Beach Clash's other host, David Hirsch, plays the role of a geek seeking a physique. Ms. Armitage's principal contribution is to giggle at his attempts to be a hardbody in mind, if not body."

    3. Less significant coverage:
      1. Jacobs, A.J. (1995-02-17). "'American Gladiators'". Entertainment Weekly. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

        The article provides 61 words of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "Beach Clash (syndicated). The Idea: Gladiators meets Baywatch. Sample Games: Hard-bodied contestants have a midsurf tug-of-war and drop from a parasail onto a floating target. The Getup: R-rated bikinis. Filler: Learn about contestants’ career goals while watching them frolic in slow-motion. Fun Bonus: Gratuitous shots of swimsuit-clad women in the shower. Bottom Line: This T&A fest would make Aaron Spelling blush."

      2. Tucker, Ken (1995-06-02). "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys". Entertainment Weekly. Archived from the original on 2023-07-03. Retrieved 2023-07-03.

        The article provides one sentence of coverage about the subject. The article notes: "After all, what are shows like American Gladiators and Beach Clash if not genially decadent versions of overbuffed Greek gods and goddesses bulging and sweating for the amusement of us rabble?"

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Beach Clash to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 01:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to review new sources located.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:36, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per Cunard's excellent sourcing. I agree it is sufficient to meet GNG . We can use this information to write a verifiable, neutral point of view article. —siroχo 07:34, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Cunard's thorough and persuasive analysis of sources above. I have also reviewed the sources listed and agree with Cunard's conclusions. All requirements of the WP:GNG appear to be met. -- Visviva (talk) 03:27, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Viva admin. Okoslavia (talk) 03:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Okoslavia, you are very kind and I do appreciate it, but I must ask you not to call me that. Admin is not an honorific and simply indicates that the user is one of several hundred people who are entrusted with access to certain tools. My arguments on AFD, like any other user's, must rise or fall solely on their own merit -- irrespective of admin status, edit count, AFD stats, or anything else. -- Visviva (talk) 04:53, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Visviva Ah, I was assuming it as Super vote. As admin can caste Super votes but probably not the case here. I do really respect your opinions on AFD as it is clearly based on reasons than emotions, unlike others. Will take care of your suggestions next time. Happy editing. Okoslavia (talk) 05:01, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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