Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crossroads Mall (Florida) (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 00:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Crossroads Mall (Florida)

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Non-notable closed mall, that even says that it never had any retail importance in the article Sadads (talk) 16:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per sources already in article; plenty more exist. Article has already been expanded; did nom do a WP:BEFORE? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 18:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ETA: This is actually the fourth AFD this article has had; it was previously bundled into Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amsterdam Mall and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centre 2000. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 18:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 20:15, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 20:15, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ - a shopping mall just like dozens, if not hundreeds, of others in Florida. There isn't a single thing in the article that indicates how the shopping center is/was any different from the others, and a quick Googling doesn't indicate it as having anything notable about it either. Being mentioned in the Aventure Guide does not notability provide. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did you even look at the article? It has eight secondary sources already, and plenty more in the Google News link. This is hardly an ordinary shopping center; it was already in foreclosure in 1997, meaning it had an atypically short life as a viable retail outlet. It was almost torn down for a Wal-Mart but Wal-Mart couldn't get the approval. The county tried to hit up the mall owners to pay for road improvement. Do those sound like everyday occurrences to you? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 23:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, yes, yes they do. The short life is a little eyebrow-raising, but people here crusade against Wal-Mart every time they seek an approval; and virtually every county here requires commercial developments that increase road traffic to pay for road improvements (turn lanes, traffic signals, and the like). Given precedent though I'm willing to change my !vote to Neutral. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:38, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep It's been a while... I originally prodded the article back in 2007, put it up for AfD when prod was contested – but I can't recall why I withdrew the AfD. Anyways, I still see nothing that significant in the subject, which seems to be covered mainly by very local sources, but I defer to the recommendation of Ten Pound Hammer, who knows a thing or two about shopping malls. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 01:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: If TPH says its notable, it is. And it is; there is sufficient coverage of it out there.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 02:14, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Several reliable sources describing the mall. Dough 48 72 05:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This artical has survived 3 previous attemps at deletion, although it is far from a good artical there are many more bad articals on WP that deserve deletion before this one.Peacekeeper 1234 14:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.