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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Drmies (talk) 19:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Has not played in a fully professional league and has not made a full senior appearance. Simione001 (talk) 00:41, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Mentoz86 (talk) 18:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:58, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Player played in the FIFA Club World Cup, a major international competition. As players who have played in the main stages of the UEFA Champions League and the Europa League are considered notable, This should also be the case for the intercontinental competition. --Kafuffle (talk) 19:09, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Agree. He has played in the FIFA Club World Cup which surely should count for notability. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 19:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE. The Club world cup is a cup competition which, many players have played in this competition and qualifying out of Oceania is not exactly the highest standard, I dont think thats really very notable. He has not played in a professional league or for the senior national team.Simione001 (talk) 23:56, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]- Keep Meets WP:NFOOTBALL because he has represented his country in an officially sanctioned senior international competition. NealeFamily (talk) 08:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - according to the article, he has not been capped for New Zealand, and he fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:11, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - first and foremost he fails WP:GNG, and I'm hot happy that playing a few matches in what is basically a FIFA vanity tournament is enough to meet WP:NFOOTBALL either. GiantSnowman 15:49, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Just as playing in the qualifying rounds of the UEFA Champions League or Europa League doesn't confer notability due to the lack of coverage and the presence of non-fully pro teams, playing in the FIFA Club World Cup shouldn't either for the same reasons. More importantly, this article fails the general notability guideline. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:42, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Basically then there should be around over 1,000 wikipedia pages about a bunch of players who have only played against teams in the FA Cup that should be deleted because of non-fully pro teams. Come on, number 1 I 100% disagree about the lack of coverage for the Club World Cup, not as covered like the Premier League, Champions League or the real FIFA World Cup but it does gain a lot of coverage from top footy pages. Also Greg did play against a fully-pro team in what is a professional tournament in Atlante F.C. and he did play in the OFC Champions League which should also count notability because that is a professional international tournament. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 03:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment:OFC Champions League is a cup competition not a professional league. The fact is he fails WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG.Simione001 (talk) 07:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- @ArsenalKid. Your FA Cup arguement falls under WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Every article should be judged on its own merits. That being said, I agree with your hypothisis that articles on players who have only played in the early rounds of the FA Cup should be deleted. It is not uncommon that the player notability in cup competitions changes from round to round. If Mr. Uhlmann had played in the final of the Club World Cup, I might be inclined to say he'd be notable, but certainly not for the early rounds. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:39, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - as per the WP:NFOOTBALL guidelines, this guy has not played professional league football and should be deleted, though the WCC is a high-profile tournament it does not meet the guidelines, he will likely be re-instated soon when he turns out in the league. London456 (talk) 10:50, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.