Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hans Silfverberg
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. There are times when NC+BLP means we should default to delete, but this does not appear to be one of those situations as the content isn't problematic. I don't see a consensus coming out of a 4th relist. Star Mississippi 01:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
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I'm very doubtful that this article meets Wikipedia:Notability (academics); the only reference currently present in it is from the University of Helsinki and even then it doesn't provide enough information to write an article about him imo. I have not been successful in finding any other sources online about or related to him via Google apart from his own publications. Monster Iestyn (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Biology. Monster Iestyn (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- I can find a few things from him/including him. As you say, it does seem to be mostly their own work.
- https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Hans+Silfverberg&btnG=
- https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Hans-Silfverberg-2099090324 MrBauer24 (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Delete Comment:. My (as a creator) reason is here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaarel Sammet--Estopedist1 (talk) 19:22, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There was a significant addition by an IP address just before this debate opened, so relisting to form a more solid consensus (don't want to soft-delete due to potential for it to come back quickly).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 21:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Poor article, but probably notable subject. A scientist with several insects named after him, and two academic publications with over 300 citations. Jeppiz (talk) 23:52, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 22:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep I'm with Jeppiz, above. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:44, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Jeppiz Andre🚐 06:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Jeppiz and as per this, this and this. --Twinkle1990 (talk) 11:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete it seems very doubtful that he passes WP:NPROF and the posters above dont make a strong case for NPROF either, I only see a single article with more than 100 citations (330 citations in Google Scholar) for a work where he was a co-author among 20 other authors. I dont suppose any of the author authors would pass WP:NPROF either based on this article alone. Secondly, there is simply not enough well sourced public material available to write a sensible article about the subject. While naming a species is not enough for relevance, I am not sure whether there is a consensus about having a species named after someone. --hroest 21:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. The articles with the 300+ GS citations aren't even research papers, they're a catalog of certain Coleoptera taxa and a list of Finnish insects. These will get cited whenever anyone writes a paper on any of the catalog entries, it's no different from a guideline recommendation coming out of a conference proceedings/consortium or a new database release, which are hardly indicative of academic impact. I'm doubtful his is an otherwise particularly outstanding career among entomologists either, and that's the benchmark for meeting NPROF. JoelleJay (talk) 00:15, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 19:36, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Justification: fails the 8 criteria points listed in WP:NPROF. The sources listed are not works by the author, they are compilation of bigger research works where he is a contributor, such as number 2. There is no information on the open web available that either allows to make a coherent article or suggests higher notability for this scientist. Sorry. MitYehor (talk) 20:03, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: On the merits, this is a BLP with no direct detailing of the subject in RS, covering only a few of his works. As an occasional closer, I need to remind AfD !voters that while Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions is just an essay, merely associating yourself with a particular argument or arguer is not an effective way to make an assertion, especially when that argument becomes effectively disputed later in the process. The subject is verified, but insufficiently covered in RS to pass GNG and appears to miss NPROF, based on presented and found sources. BusterD (talk) 04:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
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