Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hinton F.C.

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:32, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hinton F.C.

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Non-notable amateur football club. Not played in FA Cup or FA Vase, or at level 10, which has been set because that is the level at which clubs currently become eligible for the FA Cup. Fails WP:GNG too. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 02:05, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 02:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 02:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The status that Hinton has played at in the past needs to be properly clarified. I believe that they played at the equivalent of Level 10 in Division 1 of the West Midlands (Regional) League in 1988-89 & 1989-90 before the Midland Football Alliance was established in 1994. This article should be saved if we accept the "equivalent status to a current league" logic as we have in a number of other cases. League Octopus (League Octopus 08:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC))[reply]
- Comment I believe the "level 10 equivalent going back through time" argument is flawed. What we currently mean by "played at level 10" isn't to do with it being a nice round number. It's the level at which a team is eligible to compete in the FA Cup. That hasn't been level 10 throughout history. Otherwise we can look back through time and find any number of leagues that may have been de facto level 10. What was level 10 in 1924? etc. The question we really need to ask is, has the club played at a level where it could enter the FA Cup? I think the fact that it has never entered either the FA Cup or FA Vase is quite telling in that regard. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 12:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to get my head around when we should use the "equivalent status to a current league" criterion and when we should ignore it. At the moment we seem to accept clubs that are currently playing at level 10 that have not played in the FA Cup or FA Vase. Why should Hinton be excluded when they have played in more recent times (the last 25 years) at the same level as say clubs in the Kent Invicta League. In some countries entry to the national cup is extremely limited and the issue of looking at "equivalent status to a current league" can become extremely pertinent in saving an interesting article. In my view it is not a criterion we should completely ignore. League Octopus (League Octopus 13:23, 20 August 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Indeed, that's why we should treat it on a GNG basis. – Kosm1 fent 04:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and no evidence of any sporting notability. Giant Snowman 14:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – no significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. – Kosm1 fent 04:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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