Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leverett Ball

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. I wish more AFDs saw this level of editor participation. I'm used to discussions with 1 or 2 editors weighing in and, ignoring the socks, we had 9 editors in this discussion and it wasn't even about a controversial subject. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leverett Ball

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Twice declined at WP:AFC, but it was created anyway. Cursory search for sources doesn't reveal much, although as a non-sports-watching-person I may be missing something here (I probably am...I usually do). Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Radio, Television, Maryland, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete article should have never been created. Catfurball (talk) 15:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Just a minor sideline reporter at best. Fails the GNG; lacking in reliable sources giving significant coverage to the subject. Ravenswing 17:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG, WP:JOURNALIST. What we have here is WP:ADMASQ for his podcast. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No WP:SIGCOV is available to meet the WP:GNG. Appears to be WP:PROMO for a non-notable BLP. Let'srun (talk) 13:56, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per all of the above. That all seven references show up as orange or red on the source highlighter tool is also very telling. Left guide (talk) 02:32, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hatting sock stuff Left guide (talk) 02:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Leverett Ball is a Sideline reporter and podcaster. He has had multiple interviews with former professional athletes. Many sources and content were added after the WP:AFC decline. Ball has multiple sources with articles strictly covering him. The article about his podcast was written and published by Yahoo Finance, a credible source, which is referenced on his article as reference 5. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoobSaibot69 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— NoobSaibot69 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. --Thebirdlover (talk) 00:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC) [reply]

- It's a press release. —Cryptic 22:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Furthermore, that source merely name-drops the article subject in passing, so it fails WP:SIGCOV to boot. Left guide (talk) 23:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep In addition to the fact that multiple sources and plenty of extra content were added after the WP:AFC decline, Leverett Ball has significant credibility in the world of broadcasting through his ESPN work and celebrity interviews with Michael Strahan and Coolio, which can be verified through his article using reference number one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurencemball (talk • contribs) 00:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— Laurencemball (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. --Thebirdlover (talk) 00:24, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He has significant credibility with people who follow sports through both being on ESPN, cohosting a podcast with an NFL player, and conducting interviews with Hall of Fame athletes. Laurencemball (talk) 00:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not Notable, No Reliable Sources, Fails GNG. Untamed1910 (talk) 00:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless an editor can furnish links to in-depth significant coverage of Ball in multiple reliable sources that are completely independent of Ball. The influx of poorly reasoned arguments to "keep" by SPAs who are likely sockpuppets and/or meatpuppets needs to be ignored by the closing administrator. Cullen328 (talk) 06:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment When an experienced editor looks at the references in the current version of this article, most look pretty weak, and then you think, "Oh my gosh, this guy got coverage in the New York Times! I am a subscriber and this is the sum total of what that newspaper wrote about Ball: “Citgo’s the last thing you think of,” said Leverett Ball, 23, a radio promotions assistant who was standing with his father, the economist Laurence Ball, near the sign on a recent evening. That is a classic example of a passing mention, and is not significant coverage. Far from it. The Boston Citgo sign may be notable, but the fact that Ball said seven words about it does not make Ball notable.

Cullen328 (talk) 07:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - does not pass WP:GNG. The only source that really offers what might be considered SIGCOV is from Brewster Academy, and it is basically a puff piece because the subject attended that school, so it can't be considered independent of the subject. And obviously, YouTube and IMDb can't be used as sources for a BLP. The Yahoo Finance article is churnalism and a press release from GlobeNewswire, which can't be used to establish notability, and really shouldn't be used in a BLP. The NYT article is only a passing mention that provides us with who his father is, and does not establish notability. And the two remaining sources aren't reliable sources and can't be used to satisfy GNG. As an experienced editor, I made this determination by not just looking at the references, but by actually conducting a thorough examination of the sources. I also looked for sources through The Wikipedia Library and found no sources to establish notability, so the obvious outcome here is delete. Isaidnoway (talk) 09:22, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I checked Newspapers.com and Google, nothing came up other then a few passing mentions. Dr vulpes (Talk) 20:32, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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