Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Henry Omlor

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The result was delete. Joyous! | Talk 15:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Henry Omlor

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I found no reliable secondary source about this person. The subjects clearly does not meet WP:GNG. Therefore, I propose deletion. Veverve (talk) 10:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Christianity and United States of America. Veverve (talk) 10:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak keep~~ His one book "The Robber Church" is talked about here [1] and here [2] (but the second link isn't searchable unless you view the entire pdf). He's talked about on Catholic websites, those are about the only two critical discussions of his work. Oaktree b (talk) 14:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b: The first book is a WP:SPS (Lulu.com). The second is another one of Omlor's book, Questioning the Validity of the Masses Using the New, All-English Canon simply hosted on a website; or it is an excerpt of Omlor's book The Robber Church, compare with [3]. In any case, none can be considered as reliable independent sources. Veverve (talk) 15:04, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
delete for lack of sourcing per explanation. Oaktree b (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Good catch, Veverve. There are more than a few other articles in the same subject area (anti-V2 liturgical reform authors without notability) that I'm occasionally encountering and will need to put up for AfD next I see them. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:18, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but tag for improvement -- Essentially all we have is a list of his publications, with the citation of an obituary in an Australian newspaper, which is odd for an American cleric and suggests greater notability than the article currently shows. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:27, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
an Australian newspaper, which is odd for an American cleric and suggests greater notability than the article currently shows: this is pure speculation; the person can have moved to Australia, and you have no source stating he was American or a cleric. Wikipedia operates with actual nnotability, not potential suggest[ed] greater notability; if a subject is notable then you should be able to prove it is by showing centered reliable independent sources on said subject (WP:BIO, WP:GNG). Feel free to WP:HEYMANN things if you can. Veverve (talk) 03:18, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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