Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pushpika Sandamali

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Miss World Sri Lanka#Titleholders. Randykitty (talk) 17:23, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pushpika Sandamali

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Fails WP: ANYBIO lacks any independent reliable secondary sources. Is the winner of a national beauty pageant is still only WP:1EVENT. Insufficient notability with no significant achievements since the beauty pageant win - didn’t even rank at international level. Dan arndt (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:04, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:04, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:05, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:05, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a non-notable beauty queen.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:27, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - won the national title and competed at an international level at one of the "big 4" international beauty pageants. As in sports, participating in the premier international competition indicates notability. MurielMary (talk) 08:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, I can’t believe that are you are comparing a pageant based purely on a persons appearance against a sporting contest, which requires physical and mental skills. Besides in most cases, apart from the Olympics, an individual needs to have at least placed in an international competition, to be considered notable. Dan arndt (talk) 11:19, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And I absolutely cannot believe that you have nominated these articles for deletion when you clearly have such limited knowledge of the subject matter! Beauty pageants are *not* judged purely on appearance; there are multiples sections for talent performance, presenting a charity the contestant has been involved with, completing an interview, completing a sports event and actual modelling tasks. It's an all-round competition and the winners are celebrities in their own countries. MurielMary (talk) 07:57, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is not at all true. We had a long lasting RfC discussion on beauty pageants, and an attempts to create a list of competitions that entering made people default notable was rejected. MurialMary's proposal is against community consensus. Beyond this her attempts to make it so only a few highly specialized people can even comment on a nomination or even make one are the types of actions that preserve walled gardens that create hundreds of articles on totally non-notable people, such as the current one we have connected with the beauty queen complex.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:15, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are attributing motives to my comments which I have not stated. I am not attempting to "make it so only a few highly specialised people can comment on a nom". It is perfectly reasonable for an editor to correct another editor's erroneous information - in this case, it appears that Dan is making judgements on deletion based on an erroneous understanding of the competition the subject entered. Perfectly reasonable for me to correct that in order to assist him/her to develop a more accurate understanding of the subject matter being dealt with. MurielMary (talk) 21:54, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Beauty pageant contestants are not automatically notable, unlike professional athletes who have competed in recognised international sporting competitions. Your assertions that they are the same are invalid and not supported by any collaborating guidelines.Dan arndt (talk) 06:01, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:30, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to the pageant's page (if any). --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:14, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.