Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tutar Sagdiyev

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Borat Subsequent Moviefilm. To the extent editorial consensus allows. Sandstein 12:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tutar Sagdiyev

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Redirect to Borat Subsequent Moviefilm, it's just a normal fictional character in one movie, that is not a reason to create a separate article for it. Ibrahim.ID ✪ 23:04, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:09, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 15:30, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kazakhstan-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 15:30, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Ibrahim.ID ✪ 00:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Ibrahim.ID ✪ 00:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Improving, and there is one for Azamat Bagatov. The character has enough coverage to be deemed notable. Cassandra872 (talk) 23:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

every movie's character has a coverage, second: all references in article talk about (Maria Bakalova's performance) not about the character

Delete: material should either be placed at the page for the movie or for the actress.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:21, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: I agree with Cassandra872 that this fictional character is a central role of the movie and should be further improved. – NirvanaToday^t@lk 08:59, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

if we have created an article about every fictional character in every movies, We need Millions af article and Wikipedia become a database not an encyclopedia --Ibrahim.ID ✪ 15:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If they had at least three to six independent articles about them, then yes, we would. Cassandra872 (talk) 21:33, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

actually, no independent articles about (Tutar Sagdiyev), all references talk about the movie or Maria Bakalova and her performance only, Trivial mentions don't count --Ibrahim.ID ✪ 00:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not even the main character of the movie, we should also delete Azamat Bagatov. Omniscientmoose42 (talk) 18:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: The reception section can be merged to the movie he is in, but is otherwise pretty short and I don't think it justifies keeping this as a stand-alone entry. Most of the article is unreferenced plot summary aka WP:FANCRUFT. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom --Cornellier (talk) 13:05, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Borat Subsequent Moviefilm. The character has no existence outside that single media, so that is where it should be discussed. BD2412 T 20:11, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Borat Subsequent Moviefilm, currently the only secondary sourcing that exists is the character's reception in that film, which can easily be covered at the film article. Devonian Wombat (talk) 20:56, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to the film article. Most of the coverage is about the performance of the actress and not so much about the significance of the character. Jontesta (talk) 00:11, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Borat Subsequent Moviefilm aside from those including cast member commentary, the only legit publications that discuss this character are reviews for the movie and Maria Bakalova's perform in that. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:11, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Borat Subsequent Moviefilm. The Optimistic One (talk) 22:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Borat Subsequent Moviefilm and have Tutar Sagdiev redirect to that article. Especially because this movie character appears in exactly one movie. Stephenamills (talk) 05:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Someone already tried to merge these unsuccessfully and was a sockpuppet anyway. Just noting for visibility. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:15, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And again. Don't merge unless that's the consensus of this conversation and if you do, please correct things like the citation style, spelling, and dates to conform to the existing article. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:19, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.