Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 April 22
April 22
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The result of the discussion was: keep. ✗plicit 00:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:Parannoul - Beautiful World.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Skyshifter (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
skeptical about the sample's contextual significance to the whole album, even with a caption and an inline reference. furthermore, role to drive a reader into listening the whole track/recording already fulfilled by free text. furthermore, the album cover art already tells readers what to expect from the album itself. George Ho (talk) 09:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I've added more commentary about the song in the caption, sourced. I think an audio file is almost always very important to album articles. Music is extremely hard to explain with text alone. I think the audio helps the reader significantly in understanding the album's composition. Skyshiftertalk 10:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The sample is one representative of the album's sound, and it has commentaries. The album cover literally tells nothing about anything. Neocorelight (Talk) 11:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I forgot to respond to that. Agree, it's absolutely impossible to tell what to expect of the album (or any album) just from the cover art. Skyshiftertalk 12:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Fortunately, we don't have to follow nominator's skepticism and his interpretation of "contextual significance", when we have a guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples which clearly states:
"This is necessary to meet the "Contextual significance" requirement for use of non-free content: 1) the item [song or portion of] is itself the subject of sourced commentary in the article, or 2) where only by including such non-free content, can the reader identify an object, style, or behavior, that is a subject of discussion in the article".
There is commentary about the song itself (which is part of the album), the commentary is sourced, and the sample is important to identify the style of music on the album (no, a drawing on the cover says nothing about the album's sound). AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 01:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)- I'm not sure about that: Even though "contextual significance" is a mandatory requirement for non-free media, the interpretation of "contextual significance" are different from others and peoples' interpretation may vary per person who reads the article where the album is used. Kys5g talk! 16:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- May I see a guideline stating that? AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 11:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Would WP:NFC#CS do? Well, it uses two "most common circumstances", but it also says that "contextual significance" depends on due weight and balance that would or wouldn't justify using non-free content. George Ho (talk) 14:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Neither WP:DUE nor WP:BALASP say anything about editors' interpretations, so no, it won't do. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 14:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Would WP:NFC#CS do? Well, it uses two "most common circumstances", but it also says that "contextual significance" depends on due weight and balance that would or wouldn't justify using non-free content. George Ho (talk) 14:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- May I see a guideline stating that? AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 11:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about that: Even though "contextual significance" is a mandatory requirement for non-free media, the interpretation of "contextual significance" are different from others and peoples' interpretation may vary per person who reads the article where the album is used. Kys5g talk! 16:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 16:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:The Governor (Comic Series).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Molcoo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A comic depiction of the character is already in the infobox. Having another one violates purpose of use (WP:NFCC#8) and maybe also minimal use (NFCC#3). Neocorelight (Talk) 11:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Redundant. Kys5g talk! 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: keep. ✗plicit 00:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:Ariana Grande - Problem (feat. Iggy Azalea).png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nahnah4 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This cover art fails WP:NFCC#1 (no free equivalent) because the Saudi Arabian release contains a simple cover art design (see here). The Saudi cover art should be uploaded to Commons unless it is determined to be protected under Saudi Arabian copyright law, in which case it should be uploaded locally on Wikipedia as {{PD-USonly}}. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 16:36, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The cover art used in an article about songs/albums should use the most representative version. See the case of Carnival (Kanye West and Ty Dolla Sign song), where the image used in streaming services is used as the article infobox's main image, despite the existence of a free alternative. PSA 🏕️ (talk) 11:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep This is nitpicking at its finest. NFCC#1 also states that it should "serve the same encyclopedic purpose" – how is using an obscure, nobody-has-seen single art used in only one country the same encyclopedic purpose as using the artwork that is used in the rest of the world? Like what PSA said, it should also be the most representative version – the version that most people recognise. That's kind of the whole point of it. Wikipedia is also not censored – why would we choose to include a single cover from a link you sent, which clearly indicates "censored" in the URL, in this case? Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 18:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. Artwork OP sent isn't even reliable. Here's the single cover for Problem I found on Saudi Arabia's Apple Music – it's the exact same cover. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 18:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The cover art currently used is the most representative. Additionally, https://albumartexchange.com/ is not a reliable source for the supposed Saudi Arabian cover. Flabshoe1 (talk) 13:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Per the other users. We don't use the Chinese cover for Artpop, for example. Isthmus55 (t • c) 01:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per @Flabshoe1. Some outside version may not accurately describe the album. Kys5g talk! 16:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:Eugen Mack Free (Floor) Exercise.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Miloluvr (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused file Sangjinhwa (talk) 18:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Close and move to PROD: It's completely uncontroversial. You'd better proposing a deletion proposal instead. Kys5g talk! 01:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, too late. You can't PROD an FFD-nominated image, and AFD-nominated articles aren't supposed to be PRODded either. George Ho (talk) 02:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Close and move to PROD: It's completely uncontroversial. You'd better proposing a deletion proposal instead. Kys5g talk! 01:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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