TintoMeches

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ISNI format

Hi! It's just to say you that the ISNI identifiers are encoded in Wikidata with a space between each 4 digits blocks like in "0000 0000 0000 1234", according to the pattern described in Property talk:P213. I've moved your previous edits to this format. Tpt (talk) 09:33, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Alma mater

Mi spieghi perche reverti la modifica? A uno che ha frequentato le professionali metteresti alma mater che è comunemente riferita all'università? Rippitippi (talk) 20:04, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Ti ho risposto qui. — TintoMeches, 20:13, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Babel

Babel lets you view and edit more than one language on Wikidata. Just add e.g. {{#babel:de-N|en-3|sk-1|fr-2|cs-3|it-4|da-0}} to your user page. Best, Littledogboy (talk) 23:31, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

I like the kind of contributions to Wikidata you did lately. If I there is one little thing to improve, then for things like this we may want better references – if you want, take a look at Help:Sources for how to do that. Best, Littledogboy (talk) 23:34, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks a lot! I've been looking for that guide for ages! — TintoMeches, 23:39, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Subpages

Please discuss about whether we can include some subtemplates at Wikidata:Requests for comment/Interwiki links for subpages.--GZWDer (talk) 05:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Modifying the translatable pages

Hi,

When modifying such pages, you do not need to manually specify the T:XX tags like here. They are automatically inserted by the Translation Extension when a translation administrator marks the page for translation.

Sometimes such change may even result in a mess. For example, if translation unit 10 had existed but was deleted later, past translations would be instead of the newly added phrase. --Michgrig (talk) 18:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for informing me! I didn't know that… thanks for the tip! Have a good day, — TintoMeches, 22:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Sesso

Forse per il genere umano se anzichè maschio e femmina si definissero uomo e donna sarebbe meglio. Lagrande (talk) 06:37, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

E allora che necessità c'è di distinguere tra animali e persone? Il sesso è maschio e femmina punto, infiorescenze comprese. Lo so, lo so, sono una terribile vecchietta polemica. Lagrande (talk) 12:50, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Speriamo che nessun transessuale diventi famoso, se no ci tocca aggiungere le categorie sesso di nascita e sesso di morte ... :) Lagrande (talk) 10:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Q679639

Hey there, thanks for commenting at Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts/Unresolved/2014 regarding Marburg virus. However, I noticed you requested that the above item be merged to Q167264, and I think you misinterpreted my comment. While it's true that the condition caused by Marburg virus and the actual virus are different concepts, the English Wikipedia articles I was referring to originally had Q679639 refer to Marburgvirus which is a superclass of Marburg virus (Q6755287) and Ravn virus (Q7296794). Isn't it better to merge the content to Q15728844 instead? TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 06:13, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi TeleComNasSprVen, thanks for writing me. Unfortunately, besides the English ones, all other Wikipedia articles are a bit confused. That's why I relied on the en.wiki concepts. Said so, they can't be merged because they represent different taxonomic ranks:

• Q1753162 (Mononegavirales) → order
• Q46305 (Filoviridae) → family
• Q15728844 (Marburgvirus) → genus
• Q6755280 (Marburg marburgvirus) → species
• Q6755287 (Marburg virus) and Q7296794 (Ravn virus) → viruses belonging to the species Q6755280 (Marburg marburgvirus).

Here's the tree about parent taxon (P171) starting form Q6755287 (Marburg virus):

• Marburg marburgvirus
  • Marburgvirus
    • Filoviridae
      • Mononegavirales
        • Monjiviricetes
          • Haploviricotina
            • Negarnaviricota
              • Orthornavirae
                • Riboviria
                  • virus ^(@)→
        • ^→(@) virus
          • Biota ^…

Regarding interlinks, I believe most of them (maybe all of them other than en.wiki) refer to the genus and not to the virus itself because currently the genus contains only one species. But I'm not 100% sure about that, I don't understand so many languages! :-) — TintoMeches, 12:55, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I'm not too familiar with the Linnaean taxonomic classification system, but that's one of the reasons I and many others cannot engage with the Wikispecies community as directly, presumably because biological knowledge is a high barrier to entry. English Wikipedia is pretty confusing about this topic, but I think you've got it down correctly: genus Marburgvirus being superclass of species Marburg marburgvirus being superclass of virus Marburg virus. Originally though, when I last saw Q679639 before it was deleted, it referred to the genus. Q167264 in fact refers to the condition fever and coughing caused by the virus, nothing about the taxa of the virus itself. That's why I was initially confused. Anyway, looks like this thing got sorted out now, and thanks for your help on the IW-conflicts page! TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 23:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

@TeleComNasSprVen: you're right. The most important thing is that now everything is sorted correctly. :-)
Thanks for your report! See you, — TintoMeches, 23:41, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Non notable items

You are right. I'll keep that in mind. :) -- Edinwiki (talk) 14:14, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Fabio items

Hello, you have merged a disambiguation item (for pages like nl:Fabio) with an article item (pages like it:Fabio). The merge [1] was wrong, because be need different items for both groups. If you want to link a disambiguation to a name article please use local interlanguage links. Holger1959 (talk) 00:04, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Are you sure? IMO it:Fabio is still a disambiguation page (just explaining where the name comes from)... — TintoMeches, 00:14, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

this is a common problem. We often have different items for disambig, given name, and family name, or other meanings. For Fabio please compare all languages, for example also es:Fabio, which is more clearly not a disambiguation page. Also see the nutshell at Wikidata:Disambiguation pages task force and Wikidata:Disambiguation pages task force/guidelines. Holger1959 (talk) 00:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I understand, but I still think we should keep them together (just in my opinion, of course). I believe it's trivial to separate two articles who talks about the same thing but just in two slightly different ways. In my mind Wikidata should also have the purpose to raise the question: "What are we talking about? It's the same thing but that article (the foreigners' one) looks much better... I can improve mine the same way!" :-) — TintoMeches, 00:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

you can do that but with additional local links, not with Wikidata. Maybe this rule is better to understand if you think about disambiguation pages that also have links to a company or town with the same name, so not only to persons with a given or family name. And keep in mind that Wikipedias grow. We will not get less but more differentiation. Holger1959 (talk) 00:48, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok, even though using "old style" interlinks when Wikidata exists discourages me a lot. Anyway, I understand the matter. Hopefully in the future everything will be set up properly. — TintoMeches, 01:00, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

@Holger1959:, you are wrong. Disambiguation is only a technical flag, but the content is more important. You can add or remove template disambig" - it doesn't play a big role. I strongly believe that if in a article page there is a list of persons with that name, this page can be (and should be) linked with other pages about names (doesn't matter - lists or with some additional information). So the merge is preferable over separation. Infovarius (talk) 09:13, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

No, Infovarius, i am not wrong in distinguishing between disambiguations and articles. You want to change the rules. It is clear:

• Only link together pages marked as {{disambiguation}}
• Only link together the same strings (sequences of characters) – there are some exceptions to this rule
• Never mix together disambiguations with pages about a given name and surname – they are used with P734 and P735.

If you want to have name articles like es:Fabio or sl:Fabio (without any disambig aspect, not even with a list of persons) and pure disambiguations like nl:Fabio and ko:파비오 together in one item, then you should try to change the Wikidata rules and seek consensus for that. I find the current rules logical, and don't want to change them. Holger1959 (talk) 04:10, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Link a Categoria Commons

Ciao Tinto, ho una domanda per te dato che ti vedo piuttosto pratico di Wikidata ;) Normalmente quando si aggiunge tra le dichiarazioni la proprietà "Categoria su Commons" viene generato il relativo wikilink. In un paio di casi ho notato però che non c'è il wikilink nonostante la proprietà mi sembra sia stata inserita correttamente, vedi Usain Bolt e Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce. Infatti come puoi vedere non c'è wikilink al collegamento e la proprietà non è "cliccabile". Hai idea del perchè? --Dre Rock (talk) 22:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Ehilà! In realtà non conosco i dettagli tecnici, perciò non ho da darti una spiegazione precisa. Ciò che ti posso dire è che l'obiettivo primario degli sviluppatori in questo momento è ridurre al minimo il tempo di caricamento delle pagine e, come immaginerai, un link è più pesante della sola serie di caratteri. So che si stanno ipotizzando varie soluzioni e che ci sono un po' di test in corso, perciò non ti preoccupare perché dovrebbe essere una cosa passeggera. Tu continua pure ad aggiungere la proprietà come facevi prima. Se ti servono ulteriori delucidazioni, ti consiglio lasciare un messaggio in WD:DEV e ti verrà data certamente una risposta migliore della mia. :-) — TintoMeches, 11:57, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Capisco, probabilmente si tratterà di un bug temporaneo, casomai prossimamente chiederò lumi al team di sviluppo da te indicatomi. Grazie mille della risposta Tinto, a presto :-) --Dre Rock (talk) 15:25, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Q5592

Why did you remove the aliases and dates? The guy has many aliases and multiple dates of birth and death circulate. Multichill (talk) 16:47, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Multichill! About multiple dates, all sources agree: I just did not consider conversion to proleptic Gregorian calendar (even if, for ordinary purposes, the Julian one applies to events before 1582). About aliases, plenty of them are written in languages other than English (or not used by English speaking people) or did not even use latin script: Michel Ange is the French form, מיכאל־אנג׳לו is Hebrew, and so on. — TintoMeches, 20:57, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Giulio Andreotti on Wikidata

Hi, I'm sure you're referring to the "criminal" label. I can guarantee it's certainly from a neutral point of view as the politician had been sentenced guilty in the last degree for mafious activities that lasted many years. He wasn't jailed for the only reason that the sentence went on prescription. The Italian version Wikipedia contains related documents and references. --Benzocktail (talk) 22:23, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough. Benzocktail (talk) 22:48, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

We sent you an e-mail

Hello TintoMeches,

Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email surveys@wikimedia.org.

You can see my explanation here.

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Libro inesistente

Ciao, sono capitata per caso sull'elemento Q15303845 ed ho visto che viene dichiarato traduzione dell'elemento Q15303823. Però ho verificato e non mi pare esista una versione inglese del libro italiano di Mafai. O mi sbaglio? Susanna Giaccai (talk) 04:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Buongiorno Susanna, le proprietà 629 e 747 servono a distinguere l'oggetto libro dal suo contenuto: in questo senso, L'uomo che sognava la lotta armata (1st edition) (Q15303845) è [la prima] edizione o traduzione di The Man Who Dreamed the Armed Struggle (Q15303823) e, all'opposto, The Man Who Dreamed the Armed Struggle (Q15303823) ha la caratteristica di avere come edizione (has edition or translation) L'uomo che sognava la lotta armata (1st edition) (Q15303845).
Se sei interessata a migliorare questo genere di voci su Wikidata (c'è tanto bisogno!), ti invito a consultare Help:Books; può risultare abbastanza ostico all'inizio ma, tutto considerato, sono state redatte delle linee guida sensate. A presto, — TintoMeches, 10:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Grazie, prendo appunti da questa tua spiegazione e senz'altro collaboro a fare ordine in libro/edizione. Ciao Susanna Giaccai (talk) 13:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

About your restoration of Property:P569

Hello,

Thank you for reverting the "mess" done by User:پاتريشيا67, but are you sure it was also required to revert this one as well?

Thanks for checking the validity and if required, restore it…

2A02:2788:228:93D:C908:FA70:1792:6A26 19:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done — TintoMeches, 19:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! 2A02:2788:228:93D:C908:FA70:1792:6A26 19:35, 3 April 2022 (UTC)