Steward requests/Checkuser/2023-01
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Requests
影武者@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- 侯友宜的野望 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 侯導的野望 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 侯友宜跟李登輝一樣是台灣籍人士而男系子孫斷絕! (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 侯友宜 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 棄賴保侯 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 侯友宜才是李登輝的接班人 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 侯友宜總統 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 紅藍白營共主侯導 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 恭賀侯導成為2024年台灣大頭目侯選人! (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/影武者
- Confirmed 黃樹滋, 侯友宜的野望, 侯導的野望, 侯友宜跟李登輝一樣是台灣籍人士而男系子孫斷絕!, 民主進步黨會拋棄賴清德而保障侯友宜, 侯友宜, 棄賴保侯, 侯友宜才是李登輝的接班人, 侯友宜總統, 紅藍白營共主侯導, 寒吉是侯導的粉絲, 恭賀侯導成為2024年台灣大頭目侯選人!, 侯導大戰賴神, 越南刺客, 侯導要戰2024, John David Kinch Obama, 我愛侯導, Benedict Obama, 侯導, 越南更新革命黨金牌刺客, 金草包萬安, 蔣萬安偽市長
From a technical point of view. Necessary measures will be implemented soon. --Sotiale (talk) 12:10, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of users
- Mtxvt (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Gorgomnoide (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Itleda (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Rajatre (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
Reason(s): it's me again, asking you to check yet another possible sock puppet of our most insistent vandal. Please see if Mtxvt is the same person as the other ones listed above. Thanks.
ValJor (talk) 03:20, 27 December 2022 (UTC)- Please remember that each time you come to SRCU for a check, you need to present evidence that the users are the same in order for a check to be done. I was able to find grounds to do the checks on my own, but those checks did not find Mtxvt in the mix. Therefore unless more evidence is presented, I will not be checking that account. I will leave this open for a few days in case you wish to do so.
Confirmed Gorgomnoide, Invernoeternal, Rajatre, Stale Itleda, Declined Mtxvt -- Amanda (she/her) 04:33, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Amanda!
- Sorry about that; I have been dealing with Sotiale (see links below) for these requests, that is why I did not provide more information on this ongoing attack at pt.wikt.
- Basically this vandal creates a sock puppet and for a few days does apparently harmless contributions to the project, he follows all the rules and all, but then, when he feels that he is "safe", he starts vandalizing entries and when caught in the act, he starts berating and insulting other contributors and administrators.
- This Mtxvt account is apparently his latest installment, his contributions share strong similarities with those of the other confirmed puppets, but I wanted technical confirmation before I block him. Please proceed with the check.
- Also, can you explain to me (or point me to a page where that is already explained) why those with CU powers are so unwilling to use those powers? I don't mean this as disrespect to you and the other CU's, but I see this behaviour all the time and it puzzles me. If I had the power to check for sockpuppets, I would use the hell out of it, just in case. In pt.wikt we had cases of vandals leaving accounts dormant for years before they used it to attack the project, so I feel it is justified to take preventive measures. If I could I would write an app to automatically check absolutely every new user, just in case. Why risk having a sleeper in our midst when you can easily avoid that?
- Thanks.
- --ValJor (talk) 11:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply, but it is still lacking. I saw the other requests last night when I looked over this, that's what allowed me to check the three I mentioned. Could you please provide diffs between Mtxvt and one of the socks that shows this similar behavior. Right now it's hard to tell the difference between Mtxvt and a normal editor.
- The reason we take this so seriously is because each time we checkuser someone, we know the city and the country they edit from. Sometimes we can even get information down to a community or an address. This is an invasion of a users privacy. We have to balance the need to deal with a user and invading their privacy. If they are unrelated, then we have looked at their personal information for no reason. That's why it needs to be justified. It's also a legal obligation of the Privacy policy, CheckUser policy and ANPDP. Those pages might have some more answers for you as well. -- Amanda (she/her) 19:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Amanda!
- "Right now it's hard to tell the difference between Mtxvt and a normal editor". That is exactly the point. This vandal does contributions that are apparently alright, he does that for a few days, sometimes weeks before showing his colours. If you check Itleda's contributions (link below) you will see that he did hundreds of harmless contributions before starting doing damage to the project. I'm currently reviewing all his contributions to try and separate the wheat from the chaff. Had I received early warning about him, the amount of work would be an order of magnitude smaller.
- That being said, here are a few of the things that made me suspicious of Mtxvt:
- adding a pt section for words that are originally in English and barely used in Portuguese like "goodwill", "coffee break", "crumble" and others; the other sock puppets in this series have done that extensively as well;
- adding entries for obscure words like "catabolizar", "vorticismo", "plastinar"; again, the other puppets did a ton of that;
- for a new user, he seems to know exactly how the entries should be formatted; true new users usually make a few mistakes and need some guiding on how to create entries, but this one added/modified more than a dozen entries following all the guidelines of the project;
- also, new users will add two or three entries in a day, not a dozen in less than two hours;
- For all that I'm almost ready to block him, even if you don't do the CU, but I would prefer to have tech confirmation, just in case I'm being paranoid (after all, there is a vanishingly small chance that he is a normal user...).
Mtxvt Unlikely -- Amanda (she/her) 04:01, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Scoundrel [email protected]
- List of users
- Scoundrel 30 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Μεσισοπάλ (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Jornatto (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
There is no sorting through the mess on that IP range without hitting false positives, especially since I don't know the language. I have blocked the IP range involved for the time being. It will stop the new accounts. You'll still have to block the few remaining old ones. But it should quiet things down for a good while. -- Amanda (she/her) 04:12, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Amanda, I will notify the greek admins. Ιπποκράτης2020 (talk) 11:22, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Boogi [email protected]
- List of users
- Boogi wu (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/Boogi_wu
- The situation has been looked into. -- Amanda (she/her) 02:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- I would only ask about if there is a case of IP abuse. You need not (and shouldn't) tell me the IPs involved. LuciferianThomas 02:31, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- And I'm going to decline to disclose. The more I say, the closer I come to connecting IPs which I want to stay as far away from as possible. The user will have to appeal to stewards if they wish to be unblocked, so the user can be made aware of my concerns at that time. I understand that leaves the community blind about the users actions but knowing the answer wouldn't change the administrative action that can be taken. -- Amanda (she/her) 03:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- I would only ask about if there is a case of IP abuse. You need not (and shouldn't) tell me the IPs involved. LuciferianThomas 02:31, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Jjff1@pswikipedia
- List of users
- Jjff1 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Zzuupk (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
LWCU was sufficent to handle the problem, and not shockingly, it's the same person. -- Amanda (she/her) 15:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
擁有知識的柯南@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- 擁有知識的柯南 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 漂亮公主 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/擁有知識的柯南
Confirmed. Also, [1] is sufficient to do the duck test with without requiring my CU comment. -- Amanda (she/her) 15:50, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of users
- Omphalographer (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Kaldari (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: Per a request from checkuser, "Well, for such a cross-wiki check to be possible, I must first provide a sufficient and appropriate rationale to the checkuser team on commonswiki. Since Kaldari is the sysop on commonswiki, I should be very clear about this. But I'm not sure about your explanation. If you believe this investigation is necessary, please discuss it first with your community that can better understand the context of this case before requesting it." --Sotiale (talk) 00:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC), url=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Checkuser/2022-12#[email protected], I contacted several contributors to Wikiversity on 20 December 2022. Based on the evidence as presented at that time, see url=https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Marshallsumter&oldid=24262495, a contributor stated in a private email: "I've read over all the materials and I will have to concur with my fellow checkusers that this isn't very compelling evidence. A recent check already came up clean, so at this stage you need rock-solid evidence to warrant yet another check. The situation you describe sounds like it could easily be mere coincidence."
Reason(s): Based on the coincidence analysis presented on my user page, User:Marshallsumter#Omphalographer-Kaldari coincidences, it is beyond reasonable doubt that User:Omphalographer is a single purpose sockpuppet account, often used for disparagement, of User:Kaldari currently editing on Commons. --Marshallsumter (talk) 15:56, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Coincidence counting is a way to separate a rare event from ordinary events, background or noise, by improving the signal-to-noise ratio to the extent that a rare event can be studied, without removing the ordinary, noise or background, completely. See w:Coincidence counting (physics). --Marshallsumter (talk) 12:14, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Per the duck test, "The duck test does not apply to non-obvious cases. Unless there is evidence which proves otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt [such as above], editors must assume good faith from others." --Marshallsumter (talk) 05:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
A cross-wiki check is requested to confirm that Omphalographer is a sock puppet of Kaldari either by IP match (IPs not to be disclosed, of course) or by close geographic proximity such as Berkley, California, and Oakland, California, close enough to be likely sock puppet and owner. Or, San Francisco, California, versus Austin, Texas, for example, does not confirm unless both sources are very near or inside Natural History Museums where spiders can be studied and photographed. Just FYI but neither User:Vox Brevis nor User:Omphalographer have uploaded images of spiders to Commons or Wikiversity. But both sock puppets were used for disparagement. --Marshallsumter (talk) 07:28, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Both Omphalographer and Kaldari have been on Commons in December 2022, but the Commons Checkuser did not check because neither has been abusive on Commons. --Marshallsumter (talk) 07:34, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
If confirmed or likely I am requesting a block of Omphalographer on Wikiversity. We do not have Checkuser. --Marshallsumter (talk) 07:47, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Please check latest entry to User:Marshallsumter#Omphalographer-Kaldari coincidences, 99% certainty means you don't need to check with Commons/Checkusers! --Marshallsumter (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Marshallsumter, I'm afraid I can't help you since I have no rights to anything outside en-wiki. Drmies (talk) 23:07, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just FYI - secondary accounts are allowed almost everywhere on WMF projects which I assumed you knew. If you had reviewed the coincidence test you would have found at least 25 incidents of violation of WV:CIVIL, a policy, by these two which are blockable offenses. Not being civil is blockable also on meta. The coincidence test or counting demonstrated both incivility and voting twice on an issue among other things thereby sock puppetry, which with incivility are violations of policy every where. --Marshallsumter (talk) 06:25, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Hhyu1@pswikipedia
- List of users
- Hhyu1 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Ze221 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Jjff1 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
-- Amanda (she/her) 01:44, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
右孔丘@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- 岑寶兒19780906 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 周恩來18980305 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 黃周漢魏 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 梁烈唯19790326 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 李清雲16770226 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 邱香中 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 右右右右 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- TVB19671119 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 張國權19890115 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 左邱 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/右孔丘
Everyone found in a sleeper check. All listed and not listed locked. Rangeblock feasibility is not good right now. -- Amanda (she/her) 04:16, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Abdul Wahild [email protected]
- List of users
- Abdul Wahild Kalam (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Имран Джубайлович Султанов (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/Abdul_Wahild_Kalam
- Confirmed Имран Джубайлович Султанов, Yanglandu, Yangfuture
- Confirmed Abdul Wahild Kalam
From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 11:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of users
- SoryMrr (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Fun89 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Doros89 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: ro:Wikipedia:Checkuser
Fun89 and Doros89 are proved clones that were publishing automated translations on film related topics. SoryMrr writes longer articles, but the topic and the use of automated translation engines are similar between them and the other accounts. So it's a slight DUCK situation but I'd like to make sure.
Confirmed XSoryx & SoryMrr
Stale Fun89 & Doros89 -- Amanda (she/her) 23:38, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of users
- Liruqi (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 析石父 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/Liruqi
From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 06:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
鐵路[email protected], 離心力青蛙@zh.wikipedia
- List of users
- 鐵路1 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CK124 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- 就這樣吧吧 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/鐵路1, w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/離心力青蛙
- Does that mean the third account 就這樣吧吧 is definitely LTA:FROG? Please explain more clearly the relationship between 鐵路1 and CK124 and how they relate to LTA:FROG. Thanks. --Sotiale (talk) 06:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- The third account is not definitely but very most likely LTA:FROG. CK124 participated in discussions that 鐵路1 did, but acts like LTA:FROG, being familiar with notability from first edit; 鐵路1 is nowhere like LTA:FROG. So it would be a case of either A == B or B == C and probably not A == B == C. LuciferianThomas 06:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Premise of the results
- 鐵路1 has not been investigated directly because it is not sufficiently explained.
- CK124 and 就這樣吧吧 are investigated directly, and information on 鐵路1 is indirect.
- The results
- 就這樣吧吧 is Likely to be users previously identified as FROG.
- It was difficult to find similarities in data with CK124. ( Unrelated)
- 鐵路1 has the same ISP as 就這樣吧吧, but there are so many users using this ISP, and it was difficult to find data similarities with very limited data. ( Unrelated with very limited data, low reliability)
From a tehcnical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 09:23, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. May I confirm that sleeper accounts have been checked (and none found) for the directly investigated users, correct? LuciferianThomas 10:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Generally yes. This means that there were no accounts that looked similar to them, at least in the adjacent ranges. --Sotiale (talk) 11:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of users
- A1Cafel (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- A1Cafel (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/A1Cafel
- If allowed, please also report the approximate number of instances of IP abuse found. Thanks! LuciferianThomas 05:24, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- It is true that this user did non-login edits. This user used several regular ranges, but no edits were found in 维基百科: namespace, and it seems that there was only one discussion participation (in 90 days); this was a request to undo actions taken by the admin. Other than this, everything is edited in (main), and this is over 50 in total, but less than 150. --Sotiale (talk) 13:17, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Plessas [email protected]
- List of users
- Plessas S. (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Nikos218 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
From a technical point of view. Whether it's meatpuppet or not, at least technically it's unrelated. --Sotiale (talk) 04:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Abdul Wahild [email protected]
- List of users
- Aziz nurovich osmanyev (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Имран Джубайлович Султанов (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Afvrd (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/Abdul_Wahild_Kalam
- Confirmed Aydin Aman, Svcvsddvdcv, Aziz nurovich osmanyev, Salah Hulusi, Zakir aslanovich azizyev, Afvrd, Tigerzengnmsl, Mdzztigerzeng, Aziz Victorovich Salimov, Azizan Afridi, Имран Джубайлович Султанов, Yanglandu, Yangfuture
- Confirmed Abdul Wahild Kalam
- They're using VPN and proxies.
From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 04:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Saka [email protected]
- List of users
- Saka turkic (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Noyellowman (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/Saka_turkic
- Confirmed Saka turkic and Noyellowman
- They're using VPN.
From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 15:23, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of users
- 2022最棒 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- Hee Leong (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
- CU log
- Discussion: w:zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/LeonChow99
- Confirmed Group 1: 2022最棒, Liong Sik, 一条心, Sayaanakmalaysiaboleh
From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 15:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)