Property talk:P245
Documentation
identifier from the Getty Union List of Artist Names
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Single value, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Type Q215627, Q43229, Q16334295, Q811979, Q164950, Q2221906, Q115537581, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Item P569, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Item P21, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Item P19, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Item P106, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Item P735, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Scope, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P245#Label in 'en' language, search, SPARQL
People with Union List of Artist Names ID (P245) born before the year 1900, but no date of death (P570) (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item p:P245 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P570 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth < "+1900-00-15T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P245#Probably death
People with Union List of Artist Names ID (P245), but no link to Library of Congress authority ID (P244). This is based on a federated query which gets all ULAN entries with a LOC link from the Getty and compares it with the items here that have an ULAN link, but no LOC link. (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT ?item ?ulanuri ?locuri WITH { SELECT ?item ?ulanuri ?locuri WHERE { ?item wdtn:P245 ?ulanuri . MINUS { ?item wdtn:P244 ?locuri } . } } AS %wikidata WITH { SELECT * { SERVICE <http://vocab.getty.edu/sparql.json> { SELECT ?ulanuri ?locuri WHERE { ?ulanuri rdf:type <http://vocab.getty.edu/ontology#PersonConcept> . ?ulanuri <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#exactMatch> ?locuri . FILTER(REGEX(STR(?locuri), '^http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n')) } } } } AS %ulan WHERE { INCLUDE %wikidata. INCLUDE %ulan. }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P245#Missing Library of Congress authority ID
People with Union List of Artist Names ID (P245) where sex or gender (P21) is set to male (Q6581097), but the ULAN entry links to http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/30018955 (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT ?item ?ulanuri WITH { # SELECT ?item ?ulanuri WHERE { ?item wdtn:P245 ?ulanuri . ?item wdt:P21 wd:Q6581097 . MINUS { ?item p:P21 ?genderstatement . ?genderstatement ps:P21 wd:Q6581072 } } } AS %wikidata WITH { SELECT * { SERVICE <http://vocab.getty.edu/sparql.json> { SELECT ?ulanuri WHERE { ?ulanuri rdf:type <http://vocab.getty.edu/ontology#PersonConcept> . ?ulanuri foaf:focus ?agent . ?agent <http://vocab.getty.edu/ontology#biographyPreferred> ?bio . ?bio <http://schema.org/gender> <http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300189557> } } } }AS %ulan WHERE { INCLUDE %wikidata. INCLUDE %ulan. }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P245#Male according to Wikidata, female according to ULAN
People with Union List of Artist Names ID (P245) where sex or gender (P21) is set to female (Q6581072), but the ULAN entry links to http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300189559 (Help)
Violations query:
SELECT ?item ?ulanuri WITH { # SELECT ?item ?ulanuri WHERE { ?item wdtn:P245 ?ulanuri . ?item wdt:P21 wd:Q6581072 . MINUS { ?item p:P21 ?genderstatement . ?genderstatement ps:P21 wd:Q6581097 } } } AS %wikidata WITH { SELECT * { SERVICE <http://vocab.getty.edu/sparql.json> { SELECT ?ulanuri WHERE { ?ulanuri rdf:type <http://vocab.getty.edu/ontology#PersonConcept> . ?ulanuri foaf:focus ?agent . ?agent <http://vocab.getty.edu/ontology#biographyPreferred> ?bio . ?bio <http://schema.org/gender> <http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300189559> } } } }AS %ulan WHERE { INCLUDE %wikidata. INCLUDE %ulan. }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P245#Female according to Wikidata, male according to ULAN
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Error reports
[edit]Languages: English (Q1860), perhaps more
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Robin Johnson
Editor, Getty Vocabulary Program
Getty Research Institute | USA
rjohnson@getty.edu
Languages: English (Q1860), perhaps more
Error type | Item(s) affected | Description/Duplicates | Exception | Reported | Resolved (also unpublished) | Resolved and published | Wikidata updated |
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duplicate | Peter Schenk the Elder (Q78163) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500016998, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500008827 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Eugen Wörle (Q1372978) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500217358, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500086985 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Isaac Broid Zajman (Q1375395) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500239643, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500234412 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Lluís Borrassà (Q1393857) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500028569, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500339839 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Master of the Beighem Altarpiece (Q1518024) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500088840, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500009926 | Yes | Yes | not yet --Marsupium (talk) 07:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC) |
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merged cluster | Jean Baptiste de Saive I (Q985100) , Jan Baptiste le Saive II (Q1226250) | cf. Wikidata talk:WikiProject Visual arts#Many Jean Saives | n/a | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes
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other | New Schleissheim Palace (Q17121915) | The name "Neuer Schloss" in the record 500303825 is not correct, it should be "Neues Schloss" with "s" since the German word "Schloss" is genderless.
(Discussion moved to Talk:Q17121915#Label/aliases. --Marsupium (talk) 21:35, 11 June 2017 (UTC)) |
n/a | Yes | Yes | n/a
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other | Ferdinand Eusebius Miseroni (Q30104791) | Other sources say https://www.getty.edu/vow/ULANFullDisplay?find=&role=&nation=&subjectid=500080204 died in 1684, not 1694 | n/a |
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duplicate | Alfred Hitchcock (Q7374) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500063041, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500257599 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Felipe Pablo de San Leocadio (Q26720371) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500038698, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500160807 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Henri van der Haert (Q208833) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500112416, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500176974 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Master of 1518 (Q328571) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500015728, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500158776 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Alistair McAlpine, Baron McAlpine of West Green (Q336510) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500220197, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500086135 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Edgar Johan Kuusik (Q455013) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500244699, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500120540 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Amélie Beaury-Saurel (Q460344) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500034646, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500157456 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Giovanni Dalmata (Q668864) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500030402, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500318422 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Fabio Calvo (Q979294) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500315305, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500224980 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Master of the André Virgin (Q1121874) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500336275, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500012873 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | Yes | Yes | deprecated
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duplicate | Constantin Schroeter (Q1127925) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500170697, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500079058 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | not yet --Marsupium (talk) 15:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC) |
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duplicate | Bilbao Fine Arts Museum (Q127064) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500304559, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500279772 | Yes | 2017-05-22T09:43 UTC | not yet --Marsupium (talk) 15:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC) |
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other | Felix Bernardelli (Q5442140) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500356554: "Died: Guadalajara": seems to be the Guadalajara in Mexico | n/a |
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duplicate | Bompō (Q2909799) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500123160, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500319014 | Yes |
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duplicate | Johann Jakob Müller (Q37338527) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500018530, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500168268 | Yes |
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merged cluster | Jacques-Louis-François Touzé (Q3157997) , Jean Touzé (Q21542874) | It looks like http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500030147 is a merged cluster, at least Bénézit, RKDartists (Jean Touzé: https://rkd.nl/en/explore/artists/78032, Jacques Louis François Touzé: https://rkd.nl/en/explore/artists/78031) and Bibliothèque nationale de France ID (P268) list them as two, but they could possibly be wrong. |
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duplicate | Johann Ulrich Büchel (Q125558) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500200578, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500251484 | Yes |
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duplicate | Salnave Philippe-Auguste (Q20562362) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500014666, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500323996 | Yes |
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duplicate | Gerard Lanscroon (Q37519187) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500029283, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500261426 | Yes |
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other | Henry Guillaume Schlesinger (Q21453279) , Karl Hübner (Q876636) | Looks like http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500031895 and http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500030216 accidentally got merged. |
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duplicate | Nicolas Berthon (Q45284159) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500168428, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500298446 | Yes |
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duplicate | Elias David Häusser (Q72681) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500073331, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500255581 | Yes |
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other | Johann Georg Schmidt (Q1693951) | Probably http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500023271 shouldn't have the name "Cremserschmidt", cf. en:Johann Georg Schmidt (painter): "To distinguish him from his better-known namesake Martin Johann Schmidt from Krems (Kremser Schmidt) he was also known as the "Viennese Schmidt" (Wiener Schmidt)." | n/a |
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duplicate | Rotraut (Q109974) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500094511, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500190664 | Yes |
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duplicate | Giovanni Battista Lusieri (Q430474) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500014730, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500069223 | Yes |
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duplicate | Ramón Torres Martínez (Q2130519) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500276186, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500118449 | Yes |
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duplicate | Vittorio Meano (Q2637149) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500117987, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500246461 | Yes |
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duplicate | Alejandro Cicarelli (Q2640681) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500034567, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500356581 | Yes |
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duplicate | Agustín Cárdenas (Q2748887) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500192673, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500035542 | Yes |
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duplicate | Andrey Matveyev (Q2846825) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500162741, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500094816 | Yes |
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duplicate | Auguste-Louis de Rossel de Cercy (Q2871008) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500005968, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500332481 | Yes |
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duplicate | Pedro de Villegas Marmolejo (Q2889665) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500037269, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500068071 | Yes |
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duplicate | Ioannis Altamouras (Q3154048) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500123618, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500200943 | Yes |
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duplicate | Aurélia de Souza (Q3324919) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500057571, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500124162 | Yes |
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duplicate | Cipriano Pelli (Q3677449) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500161949, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500264934 | Yes |
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duplicate | Icilio Federico Joni (Q3791696) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500002604, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500037779 | Yes |
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duplicate | C. C. Wang (Q5006342) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500125694, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500338339 | Yes |
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merged cluster | Charles M. Nes Jr. (Q56256668) , Charles M. Nes III (Q56285407) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500060146, also affects VIAF | Yes |
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other | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500055849, wrong names | n/a |
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other | place mix-ups (~514 cases) of places where probably all people connected through place of birth or death (or bio:event, schema:location) are meant to be connected to another place with the same or similar name:
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duplicate | Tom Gibson (Q56512374) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500063061, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500036865, https://www.degruyter.com/view/AKL/_zx091163 has the combination of the longer name "Thomas Kent Hamilton Gibson" and the place of birth Edinburgh | Yes |
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duplicate | Eduardo Flórez Ibáñez (Q55492909) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500036227, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500037369 | Yes |
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duplicate | Friedrich von Gärtner (Q66149) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500023792, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500358178 | Yes |
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duplicate | Johann Georg Üblhör (Q1694023) | http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500072675, http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500327284 | Yes |
Link
[edit]The new preferred URL format is http://vocab.getty.edu/ulan/$1, eg Vincent van Gogh (Q5582) -> http://vocab.getty.edu/page/ulan/500115588. This is in anticipation to Linked Open Data availability in Mar 2015.
Quote from http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/index.html: Until the other vocabularies are available in LOD format, as requested by several in the community, we have implemented a redirect to the HTML version of the full record. Here are examples in each vocabulary:
- http://vocab.getty.edu/ulan/500125633
- http://vocab.getty.edu/cona/700001941
So I've changed it. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 21:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Not only person, also org
[edit]http://www.getty.edu/vow/ULANFullDisplay?find=&role=&nation=&subjectid=500125180 British Museum is legal link. Здесь собирается информация о людях, организациях, произведениях, связанных с искусством (см. w:Getty Research Institute). С уважением--Пробегающий (talk) 15:55, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- I agree, there are some museums wich have a ULAN number too. Maybe one should delete the item contraint. --Pasleim (talk) 22:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- ULAN includes people, orgs, and undifferentiated people of various nationalities. But not works. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 21:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Today I added the Getty ULAN ID to the University of Washington Department of Urban Planning and Design, and was warned that there were 5 statement restraints that weren't met, all of which are for persons, which is not appropriate for an identifier for a corporate body. This appears to have been discussed before, but nothing has been done to fix this issue. There are numerous corporate bodies (e.g., architectural firms, universities, museums, and others) in ULAN. --Adam Schiff (talk) 07:35, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Edit request
[edit]@Emw: Could you please add this:
Duplicate records of people, as reported by ULAN identifier
to section https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Merge#Where_can_I_find_items_to_merge.3F (the direct link is https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Merge&action=edit§ion=12)
since I don't have edit rights to that page. Thanks! --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 21:02, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Not human exceptions
[edit]Based on this list I added exceptions for about 500 non-humans. If you want to update: Download a fresh list, do a regex replace "\r\nQ" -> "]], [[Q", fix the first and last entry and paste it here. I also imported gender so that report will drop from 3879 entries to 267. Multichill (talk) 13:31, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
item requires statement constraint
[edit]Sorry, but a lot of the requested statements are just seen throu very tight glasses. Date of birth, Place of birth, Given name, this all did not work for a lot of Items. For ever item with a notname/provisional name, for all thore, who are artists that have lived before the 15th century. There are some thousands of artists just form ancient Greece and Rome for whom we can't provide this informations. For some, because we did not know names, for others, because the name system in Greece as in Rome were different to today. But I get this now every time as a mistake. This is frustrating. Please remember, that there are more than "Summ of all paintings". -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:28, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Agree. This is a widespread problem with constraints IMHO. Is there any central place to discuss it? --Marsupium (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Suggestion constraints
[edit]@Marsupium, Robert.Allen: can you please stop removing the suggestion constraints (suggestion constraint (Q62026391))? According to the report this property is used 78,900 times of which 77,296 are human. That's 98% so having human related suggestions makes sense. Suggestion constraints are not extremely well documented at the moment so you might have missed this new concept. Also the wording is in need of improvement for which I filed phab:T227383. Multichill (talk) 11:20, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- These "Suggestion constraints" are pure nonsense. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:58, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with Marcus Cyron, it is clearly not helpful to raise such warnings either in cases in which you could not state assert about birth/death place/date. --Horcrux (talk) 14:45, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
The way around the suggestion constraints it to stick these names and organizations in the exception to constraint list under each suggestion constraint. If we were to do this with everything that doesn't fit these suggestion constraints, the exception to constraint list would become burdensome (i.e. nonsensical). It would make more sense to remove the suggestion constraints. This is the only external ID property that I'm aware of that has this many suggestion constraints for a mixed data set. One can argue percentages, it's still a mixed data set that has people that don't have adequate data to meet the constraints and organizations that will never meet the constraints. Pteropotamus (talk) 21:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
First name constraint
[edit]@Multichill: It is false that all items having this identifier should have given name (P735): all items having Roman praenomen (P2358) (e.g Diocletian (Q43107)) should never have given name (P735). Objections to the removal of the constraint, or maybe is it possible to say that each item should have either given name (P735) or Roman praenomen (P2358)? Thanks, --Epìdosis 20:33, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- That's why it's a suggestion constraint (Q62026391). This property is used on more than 82.000 humans of which 58 have Roman praenomen (P2358), that's about 0.07% of them. Multichill (talk) 20:42, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- But a lot have not even one. There are thousands of ancient names who are not fitting the modern Names system. And thousands of artists withaut any name, only with a notname. The ame with date and place of birth and death. This did not work for thousands of them. This all is so frustrating. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:57, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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