Property talk:P825

Documentation

dedicated to
person or organization to whom the subject was dedicated

Description

person or organization to whom the creative work was dedicated

Represents

dedicatee (Q28008298), memorial society (Q64503868), dedication (Q1898184)

Data type

Item

Domain

According to this template: Creative work of any kind

According to statements in the property:
occurrence (Q1190554), artificial object (Q16686448), group of humans (Q16334295), plant (Q756), cult (Q756820), geographic entity (Q27096213), artistic theme (Q1406161) or asteroid (Q3863)

When possible, data should only be stored as statements

Example

To a Creole Lady (Q3576923) → Émélina de Carcenac Autard de Bragard (Q20757530)
Die Walküre (Q324319) → Ludwig II of Bavaria (Q44039)
Paróquia Nossa Senhora dos Alagados e São João Paulo II (Q10300565) → John Paul II (Q989)
Mary (Q345)

Tracking: usage

Category:Pages using Wikidata property P825 (Q20990013)

Tracking: local yes, WD no

no label (Q101363728)

See also

commemorates (P547), named after (P138), patron saint (P417), acknowledged (P7137), addressee (P1817)

Lists

Proposal discussion

Current uses

Total	65,819
Main statement	64,533	98% of uses
Qualifier	1,277	1.9% of uses
Reference	9	<0.1% of uses

Search for values

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Type “occurrence (Q1190554), artificial object (Q16686448), group of humans (Q16334295), plant (Q756), cult (Q756820), geographic entity (Q27096213), artistic theme (Q1406161), asteroid (Q3863)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “occurrence (Q1190554), artificial object (Q16686448), group of humans (Q16334295), plant (Q756), cult (Q756820), geographic entity (Q27096213), artistic theme (Q1406161), asteroid (Q3863)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Martin Luther tree (Q59274681), Bismarck tower (Q44844)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P825#Type Q1190554, Q16686448, Q16334295, Q756, Q756820, Q27096213, Q1406161, Q3863, SPARQL

Citation needed: the property must have at least one reference (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P825#citation needed

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P825#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Religious buildings

copied from User talk:Marsupium

I've just removed your example from this - as I understand it, dedicated to (P825) is for the dedication on works - "I dedicate this novel to XYZ". Buildings in honour of someone, or religious dedications to saints/deities etc, usually use commemorates (P547) (& named after (P138) if they're named for them). Andrew Gray (talk) 11:24, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andrew, actually this was a kinda trial balloon testing if anybody opposes. :-) The label in English at least seems to fit, cf. w:Dedication. And church building (Q16970) is a work (Q386724), so is St. Peter's Basilica (Q12512) (otherwise it would raise a constraint violation, but it doesn't), I've looked it up this morning (UTC), but haven't the chain at hand now, you can find it.

I don't think commemorates (P547) or named after (P138) are quite fitting here. Commemoration isn't really the point neither is the naming. I was insecure about using dedicated to (P825), too. What let me add it were the types statistics indicating that out of the c. 7,658 uses many more than 6000 use the property in that way like on St. Peter's Basilica (Q12512). I haven't queried the statistics for commemorates (P547) and named after (P138) though, commemorates (P547) at least won't show this result certainly. I propose to move this small discussion to Property talk:P825 to make it visible for further discussion. Regards, --Marsupium (talk) 16:35, 27 September 2017 (UTC) 16:42, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone else have thoughts on this? I agree that neither commemorates (P547) (& named after (P138) seem quite right for "St. Peter's Basilica (Q12512) is dedicated to St. Peter" or "Hanuman Temple, Connaught Place (Q12459599) is dedicated to Hanuman", but it seems strange to have that property cover both religious dedications and literary ones.

The constraints on this property are also a bit unexpected. It seems that because churches etc are a subclass of structure of worship (Q1370598), which is a subclass of religious object (Q21029893), which is a subclass of artificial physical object (Q8205328), which is a subclass of work (Q386724), the constraint for "must be a work" allows buildings. However, that parent item seems to be very much intended for creative works, so maybe something's getting a bit confused in the taxonomy tree. Andrew Gray (talk) 11:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Constraint notification of reference which is at the interwiki for the edition

Are we able to modify the constraint notification about "provide a reference" where there is an interwiki that contains that dedication? Exaple A sketch of the physical structure of Australia, so far as it is at present known (Q19025678) has a dedication in the work, at the interwiki for the edition itself. Providing a reference to itself when it is overt in the work seems superfluous. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:06, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usage question

Hi!

For churches dedicated to Our Lady of the Assumption (Q10337564), can I set the claim to that value, or should I use Mary (Q345)?

Thanks in advance. Best regards Peter17 (talk) 12:28, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd go with

⟨ Basicila de notre-Dame-de-l'Assomption ⟩ dedicated to (P825) ⟨ Mary (Q345)  

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object named as (P1932) ⟨ "Notre-Dame-de-l'Assomption" ⟩

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Then, record Our Lady of the Assumption (Q10337564) in named after (P138) Karl Oblique (talk) 17:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship with patron saint (P417)

Please take a look to this thread. Horcrux (talk) 15:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Restriction to avoid Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)

I'm finding churches named after a disambiguation page, which is just the result of a poorly imported value or even a wrong link in the source Wikipedia. I propose setting a restriction to prevent using an instance of Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) as value for dedicated to (P825). Pere prlpz (talk) 21:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pere prlpz: this seemed obvious so I've been bold and I've added a constraint. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:00, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pere prlpz: ah nevermind, I misunderstood you a bit (the constraint I added is still useful but for items that are Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) themselves, not for the target value). Not sure if what you ask can be done with a simple constraint (there is value-requires-statement constraint (Q21510864) but it's positive, not negative ; could be still useful tho), if that's true then we could add a complex constraint. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]