Talk:Q38723

English label

"higher education organization" is a nonsense label that can mean almost anything. I have threfore replaced this label with the title of the english article "Hochschule". "University collage" is a better description, but as long as there is another item (university college (Q15407956)) with this label and a more stringent definition, it is problematic to use this label for this item. /ℇsquilo 19:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

@Esquilo:, I am not sure about usus of german word "Hochschule" but this item is likely about umbrella term for "almost any" organisation providing higher education.

university college (Q7894996)

This is fucked up! Nothing links to university college (Q7894996). All Swedish and Norwegian institutions link to higher education institution (Q38723). No other Wikipedias except for enwp make any distinction between the two. Most notably not svwp or nnwp. Q7894996 and Q38723 should be merged. /ℇsquilo 17:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, question: is Moscow State University (Q13164) instance of university college (Q7894996)? — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 20:18, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Moved from User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin#Hochschule

Hi. As for not merging Q38723 and Q7894996: Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish articles from the latter, though largely reflecting the situation in Finland, Norway or Sweden, are generally about the same broader concept of Hochschule of the first item. It's only the English article that is country specific and that's why I left this without interwiki links. Danish article (Professionshøjskole) on the other hand is generally about the more specific topic of the vocational university (Q17028020). 193.40.10.180 09:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, question: is Moscow State University (Q13164) instance of university college (Q7894996)? — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 10:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

It is not as far as you define "university college" as a Scandinavia related topic. But as falling into universities subclass of tertiary education institutions, it generally is as well part of the wider class which is described as Hochschule or korkeakoulu in Finnish or högskola in Swedish. That is, generally speaking, exact (legal) definition of university, Hochschule and other kind of education institutions of course varies in different countries. Also, note that "unviersity college" here isn't "college of the university" as the English term might imply. 193.40.10.180 10:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Current Russian label and description of Q7894996 are about "university college" as well as English article. So looks like we need to move some links, not merge. Previous merge attempt added inapplicable aliases and labels to Q38723. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 14:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Any suggestions on whether there is an item that covers educational institutions after secondary school (Q159334)? That is: We have secondary school (Q159334) that provides secondary education (Q14623204). But do we have an item for the type of institution that provides tertiary education (Q9166713), or provides its subclass higher education (Q136822)? --Closeapple (talk) 16:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

I suppose it was meant to be here. --Infovarius (talk) 11:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Separated out Hochschule

I've separated out Hochschule (Q21028957) per this discussion: Wikidata:Project_chat#University.2FHochschule_and_User:Infovarius. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:31, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I see that sitelinks like en:Hochschule should be separated as they link to Wikipedia articles that cover the situation in a single country, or a few countries or their subject is just ambigious. Some other sitelinks seemingly were in that other item based on similar etymology rather than subject matter, though. For instance de:Hochschule intends to be be a general article for higher education institutions, though it currenty centers around the situation in Germany, and others like nl:hogeschool cover non-universities. So I arranged the latter links a little. As for the argument that German Hochschule excludes Fachschulen and alike that may be considered tertiary level in some countries, this generally seems to be the case for higher education institutions in other countries as well. 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:E0EC:C1D:5A37:1E6 15:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

separated out Vysoká škola

Please do NOT link this wikidata item to an enwiki or other wiki page about some particular country's definition of higher education institutions. This is a GENERAL top-level class, university, college, etc are subclasses of this one. There is NO corresponding enwiki page that should be linked to this item at this time. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:21, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Apart from en:vysoká škola, I moved "Vysoká škola" of cswiki and skwiki here as these probably are general articles on higher education institutions. They currently center on a single country (happens to be the case for most "higher education institution" articles anyway), but are not defined as such, and as this single country for each article is different (Slovakia and the Czech Republic) then the subjects don't really go together more than they goes together with equivalents in any other country. 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:E0EC:C1D:5A37:1E6 15:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)