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Edition data

Hi! I left a new comment on the book task force discussion about edition data. --Micru (talk) 17:12, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Babel

Babel lets you view and edit more than one language on Wikidata. Just add e.g. {{#babel:de-N|en-3|es-1|fr-2|nl-3|it-4|da-0}} to your user page. Best, Littledogboy (talk) 13:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information. Very convenient. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:50, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Scalar physical quantity vs vector physical quantity

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Journal aliases and Scandinavian authorities

Hi Finn, re [1] I can use a bot to automatically put the English title into the label for all those language, using the title in the Danish official journal list as a guide. I have proposed that we add identifiers for the Danish journal list at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control#Danish Bibliometric Research Indicator (BFI) SNO/CNO, and a property for the 'level' (Niveau) assigned to these journals at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work#Danish Bibliometric Research Indicator (BFI) Level. I would appreciate it if you comment on those proposed properties - I don't know the Danish research evaluation system very well, except that it appears to be almost identical to the Australian system - to confirm they are of the right type, or improve the proposal. John Vandenberg (talk) 07:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing this up. The Finnish also has a publication site with levels: http://www.tsv.fi/julkaisufoorumi/haku.php?lang=en — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know about the Finns are doing. They have a level above '2', aptly named '3', and there are many journals with a rank of '-', which I havent yet understood the meaning of (possibly not yet assessed?). Their online database with 25,0000 records is linkable and has a lot of useful fields in it, so I've requested a property for their ID at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control#Jufo ID. I think I will do a comparison of Danish and Norwegian and Danish and Finnish levels before requesting properties for those, however if you know anyone who might be interested in that data, I can load it at their request.

User:JVbot is now loading the Danish SNO/CNO and level for journals which have an ERA ID as the first batch, which should be a very large subset of all the international journals. (It may duplicate a SNO if you have input an SNO already; a second pass will identify this and I will correct the data) Once the ID and levels are added, the bot add labels and descriptions in Danish, where those fields are currently have no value.(and I will notify you when that starts so you can spot check the results). The real fun will be after that, when the bot processes entries which have an ISSN in Wikidata but are not included in ERA, and then the entries which are 'new' Wikidata items because their ISSN does not yet appear in Wikidata. John Vandenberg (talk) 09:14, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Direction of merge

Hi, you merged opera singer (Q13378569) in opera singer (Q12330340); however WhatLinksHere/Q12330340 is only used by one item while WhatLinksHere/Q13378569 is used by a dozen other items. Someone will have the trouble of fixing those broken links. Next time, it would be better to merge from the least-used item toward the most-used item. Cheers - LaddΩ chat ;) 14:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I will be more careful next time. I just selected the lowest item. I have moved professions labeled with opera singer (Q13378569) to opera singer (Q12330340). — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:55, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Super, thanks - LaddΩ chat ;) 21:56, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Danish general election, 2015

Hello, Can you find the eligible voters (P1867) for the Danish general election, 2015?--Dom (talk) 08:15, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your interest. I am not sure it is known yet. But I will look after when it is announced. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Danish and KID on Crotos

Hello Fnielsen
For information, Danish and Kunstindex Danmark kunstværk-ID have been added to Crotos http://www.zone47.com/crotos/?l=da&p170=979541&p=1. Thank you for having made me discover Martinus Rørbye. Best regards --Shonagon (talk) 21:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice display. I don't quite understand you remark about "Kunstindex Danmark kunstværk-ID" when I try, e.g., p2108=405987 I do not get a single item. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 01:14, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The "Kunstindex Danmark kunstværk-ID" is just displayed with link under artworks, with other IDs for visual artworks ; and as option for making lists like List of artworks of Martinus Rørbye --Shonagon (talk) 09:31, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:31, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ambitus

I created ambitus (P2279) based on your request. Mbch331 (talk) 19:45, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Danish parish code

Danish parish code (P2290) is ready for use. --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:33, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

used metre (P2551) and quantitative metrical pattern (P2552)

are available.
--- Jura 21:21, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

typeface/font used (P2739)

Please make good use of it.
--- Jura 11:37, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

sammenslutning/samarbejde mellem museer

Hvordan fortæller man at museer er fusioneret, feks. her Q27496599. Se evt. da:Skagens Kunstmuseer. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 07:50, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... Som jeg ser det var der en fond [2] der er ophørt. Museet hedder "MICHAEL OG ANNA ANCHERS HUS SAXILDS GAARD", så vidt jeg kan se. Jeg troede egentlig der skulle være en egenskab der hed "fusioneret med", men jeg kan ikke finde den. Så fonden er ophørt, men huset er der stadig? Blot overgået? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:05, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nu kaldes det åbenbart bare "Anchers Hus" også jvf. en folder jeg har derfra. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 14:11, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Måske er svaret er at det kommer an på hvordan samlingerne er organiseret. Inventarnummer synes at relatere sig til Anchers Hus og maleriet er måske stadig placeret der. For museet kan man vel bruge noget i retning af "del af". — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:34, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jo, maleriet er stadig i Anchers Hus tidligere kaldet da:Michael og Anna Anchers Hus. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 18:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Opretningen af egenskab for systemnummer for FBB

Hej. Jeg over denne: Wikidata:Property_proposal/Place#Danish_ancient_monument_ID --Steenth (talk) 20:29, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Participate in Wikidata:WikiProject_Heritage_institutions

Hey! I saw all of the work you were doing on Danish Libraries. We would love for you to participate in Wikidata:WikiProject_Heritage_institutions, to try to integrate more data across the broader GLAM community. Sadads (talk) 15:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting P972 on Q11866

Hi Fnielsen, I noticed you reverted my edit here with summary "I don't understand the deletion". I will tell you: This item has both catalog (P972) with qualifier catalog code (P528) as well as P528 with qualifier P972. According to the talk page at P972 the recommended version is with P528 as statement and P972 as qualifier. So that is why I deleted this statement. Have a nice day! Q.Zanden questions? 15:19, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason to delete that statement. I have attempted an argument here: [3]. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 19:44, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

re

Dots are included in pubmed pages ([4]). Also, the correct venue to report a issue of fatameh is [5].--GZWDer (talk) 13:11, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For the record: I have added a Phabricator task here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172383 — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:42, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WikiJournal article and topic

Hi Finn, Should there be a link between Q30314335 and Q43997683, and if so, what sort of link? Evolution and evolvability (talk) 23:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Very good question. I did not see Plasmodium falciparum erythrocyte membrane protein 1 (Q30314335). I suppose that Plasmodium falciparum erythrocyte membrane protein 1 (Q30314335) is a family of proteins and Plasmodium falciparum erythrocyte membrane protein 1 (Q43997683) is a description of a family of proteins. Furthermore the Wikipedia article associated with Plasmodium falciparum erythrocyte membrane protein 1 (Q30314335) is a description of a family of proteins. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 23:33, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Danish Culture Canon (Q1269747)

Hi Finn, this is incorrect usage of part of (P361). This should be replaced by another property. I would use catalog (P972). Can you change it? Should be easy job with petscan. Multichill (talk) 12:16, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure you are right. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 15:07, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "you" , Villy? Me or Multichill? I think catalog would be better. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:20, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure Multichill is right. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 22:06, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know part of (P361) is wrong. If you have a better property than catalog (P972), go ahead and use that one. Multichill (talk) 22:20, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am wondering if we can get some arguments put forward. catalog (P972) seems ok to use to indicate a list membership, even though the list is not necessarily a catalogue in the usual sense. part of (P361) is a fairly general property and I think one should select another property if that is possible. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Documentation of Scholia

Please see Wikidata:Scholia. I hope you like it. I expect to develop it further. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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L.A. Ring i Statsministeriet

Hej Finn kunne du ikke tjekke wikidata for elementer vedrørende Statsministeriets samling og komme forslag til ændringer inden jeg afslutter det? tjek gerne disse tre samlingen Q48214187, et maleri: Q51726351 og kataloget: Q51726733. Derefetr følger jeg op på det. På forhånd tak! --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 07:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Villy Fink Isaksen: Ville det være en idé at modellere Paintings by Laurits Andersen Ring in Statsministeriet (Q48214187) efter samme skema som The Royal Collection of Graphic Art (Q12308075)? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 09:48, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jeg har nu forsøgt med samme model. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 10:20, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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wordnet.dk

Hi! I wonder whether exact match (P2888) is the best option to link lexemes to external databases, but it surely depends on. Could you please create an item for the target database with metadata about it? -- JakobVoss (talk) 17:21, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JakobVoss: DanNet (Q26932303) is the versionless item for the resource. I haven't created items for the versions of DanNet. One problem with the lexical resources is that they tend to have versions, so we would need a property for each version. Interlingual Index ID (P5063) and BabelNet ID (P2581) may be an exception. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:29, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How could we make a connection between statements such as most (L2333) exact match (P2888) http://www.wordnet.dk/owl/instance/2009/03/instances/ and DanNet (Q26932303)? The common URI namespace of DanNet seems to be http://www.wordnet.dk/owl/instance/, so this URI should be stated in DanNet (Q26932303). formatter URI for RDF resource (P1921) does not fit, URL (P2699) is to broad, isn't it?. What do you think about https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q26932303&type=revision&diff=690654098&oldid=540161368? -- JakobVoss (talk) 07:10, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JakobVoss: Maybe I should contact the DanNet (Q26932303) and ask what their thoughts are. At the moment the wordnet.dk domain redirects and we get 404 from instance URIs. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:00, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

turde (L11274)

I tried url you put into exact match (P2888) there and it showed 404 Page not found. KaMan (talk) 11:49, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the DanNet (Q26932303) URI does not resolve currently, but the URI is suppose to be that one, cf. https://cst.ku.dk/projekter/dannet/ — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Danish has no genitive case

I noticed you added genitive case forms to søndag (L21643), but according to w:Danish grammar, there are no cases in Danish. The possessive is considered an enclitic. —Rua (mew) 18:48, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making me aware of the concept of enclitic. Danish: A Comprehensive Grammar (Q54140873) pages 47+ speaks of "The genitive" for Danish nouns and the book does not mention "enclitic" (not at least according to the index). So I wonder where that leaves us? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:20, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article explains why the "genitive" is not a case. The ending -s is not attached to the noun, but to the last word in the phrase. This means that any word that can appear at the end of a genitive phrase has a genitive form, even verb forms and prepositions. The article gives a few examples. The English possessive enclitic -'s works exactly the same, and it's not considered a genitive case either. —Rua (mew) 16:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nevertheless, Wiktionary's wikt:søndag (and Swedish wikt:söndag) does have genitive. It is very rare that an -s is added to a verb or preposition, but very common in nouns. If you want to alienate Wiktionary users, try to teach them how grammar works. --LA2 (talk) 17:25, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral forms of Danish nouns

Shouldn't gammel (L31494) and ung (L31497) have neutral forms (gammelt, ungt)? --LA2 (talk) 17:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@LA2: Oh, dear. Thanks! — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maleri af Rørbye

Kender du den danske titel af https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20168233 ? --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:14, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Villy Fink Isaksen: Jeg kan desværre ikke umiddelbart finde en titel. Jeg gad vide om den overhovedet har en titel? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:03, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ok og tak - en oversættelse af den engelske titel går ikke altid, så det undlader jeg.--Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 22:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Def for lexeme

Hi Fnielsen, what's your opinion on Wikidata:Property_proposal/periphrasis? It seems to linger there for a while and now that we have sense, I think it would be useful. --- Jura 07:08, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Property proposal for Imagenet synset?

I'm wondering if you might be interested in reviving your property proposal for Wordnet synset ID? I'm doing more with GLAM organizations and image recognition, and this would be quite a valuable thing to have not as just an "exact match" but as a proper property. I think this would be rather easy to pass since there were all supports previously - Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID. Thanks! -- Fuzheado (talk) 11:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Fuzheado: Yes we could do that. There are some issues, some of which was mentioned in Linking ImageNet WordNet Synsets with Wikidata (Q50347076). If we would like to be LOD'ish and like ImageNet synsets, then we should go for the specific version WordNet 3.0. It seems that the linguists have moved on to WordNet 3.1 and there are no good URI resolver for 3.0. We could also suggest both. There are a good number of BabelNet identifiers. It might be that going from Wikidata via BabelNet to WordNet 3.0 is possible. I haven't explored. For the Danish parallel to WordNet, DanNet (Q26932303), there is a Wikidata property for words (not synsets, yet), see, e.g., champagne (L40806). I suppose similar items could be relevant for WordNet. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 00:37, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source for P2763 list

Hi, I'm trying to upload several protection area IDs to WD.

In Danish protected area ID (P2763) case, I can't find the search web or directory web to get the list. The generated link from ID send to a PDF pages, but I'm looking for some place with the list to go there. I see you upload several P2763, as Ø Bakker (Q3593711), and Probably you may help me. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 07:33, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Amadalvarez: Good question. I refound it here https://www.fredninger.dk/ . The ID is somewhat hidden, e.g., https://www.fredninger.dk/fredning/gammelmosen/ under "Fredningen og dens pleje" for "Link til fredningskendelse". I am not sure how to get to a page with a list of the IDs. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:16, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hard work !, not only but the manual task, but because I never know if I entry the full list. Well, this is the live of wikipedians. I will continue looking and, if I find it, I will inform you. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 06:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strange gender on L41136

Hi,

Are you sure about grammatical gender (P5185) = nexual noun (Q61053035) on nydelse (L41136)? It seems strange (wouldn't it be better in instance of (P31)?) and it triggers a contraint violation.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PS: same question for sne (L40919) and grammatical gender (P5185) = grammatical gender (Q162378).

@VIGNERON: Thanks for catching these errors! — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. And thank *you* for your amazing work on Lexemes

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:20, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone for Everyone

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Thanks for weaving the lines and letters that make information neutrally open to the world.

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duplicate paper added?

Hi - I'm wondering why you recently added The Meaning-Frequency Relationship of Words (Q65952270) - specifically what your procedure for that was, because it was a duplicate (with a slightly mangled title) of The Meaning-Frequency Relationship of Words (Q57623197), which you also added almost a year ago. I've merged them now, but it would be nice not to have to try to catch these after the fact! ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:10, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@ArthurPSmith: I don't know. I have no recollection of adding it the first time. I usually check up based on the title. I suppose that I misspelt the title the second time and that was the reason I did not find it... — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 19:47, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok - probably best to check via DOI and/or pubmed ID as well if possible... ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:50, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WordNet property

Hi! I was looking to see whether Wikidata had a property for linking to WordNet synsets and I came across Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID from almost exactly two years ago. I note that the proposal was withdrawn because of concerns about consistency between WordNet versions and canonical formats. Do you think there would be any interest in resurrecting that proposal? CC @MB-one Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 02:03, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bovlb, MB-one: Yeah. What I have done for DanNet (Q26932303) is to tie the property to a specific version of the resource. We could tie WordNet synset properties to 3.0 and 3.1. (Note that we also have the ILI identifier (Interlingual Index ID (P5063)) — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 07:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Text-to-Lexemes-Kurdish

Hi Fnielson, do you know where I can suggest Kurdish? (for Text to Lexemes)? Thx --Şêr (talk) 21:41, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Şêr: It is now available at https://tools.wmflabs.org/ordia/text-to-lexemes . Other requests or bug reports can be put in here https://github.com/fnielsen/ordia/issues. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Fnielsen:, Thank you very much for the quick answer and the implementation. In the future, I will do it the way you said.

Ordia can't retrieve the data? [6]. I have to report this, too. :) [Browser:Opera] --Şêr (talk) 06:33, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Şêr: Thanks for reporting. This seems to be a problem with WDQS. I have filed a bug report https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230974. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 06:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Şêr: Wikimedia people has fixed it now. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230974

@Fnielsen:, I've seen it now. Many thanks to all of you. Best regards, --Şêr (talk) 11:08, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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text-to-lexemes English

Nice tool .. For English, it could be interesting if the lowercase form was searched directly, e.g. [7].

BTW, when calling Special:NewLexeme, it's also possible to append the language (&lexeme-language=Q1860) and category (&lexicalcategory=Q1084). Maybe a basic selection of the later could be offered on ordia/search --- Jura 13:38, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was just puzzled why it matched "Municipality", but not "Category": https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Lexeme:L72364&oldid=1007654154 ;) --- Jura 14:07, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BTW I tried to modify the query to include some of it, but it keeps timing out. --- Jura 15:24, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jura1: Wrt "Municipality": Why is this word uppercase. Is it a common noun? Ordia is doing case sensitive match — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:46, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There are two lexemes for "municipality": https://tools.wmflabs.org/ordia/search?q=municipality . Perhaps (L72364) should be merge? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. I will try to convert the text to lowercase the text before having it parsed. --- Jura 17:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Asking for a letter of support to create a research unit in Tunisia

Dear Sir,

I thank you for your efforts. We are managing to create a research unit called "Data Engineering and Semantics" in the University of Sfax, Tunisia. The purpose of this research unit is to gather Wikiresearchers from University of Sfax into a recognized research structure and have funding from Tunisian Ministry of Higher Education. In order to do that, we need to have a letter of support from institutions all over the world. I ask if you or the director of your research department can write a letter of support for us so that we can have our application approved. This will be acknowledged. --Csisc (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stort tak for dit arbejde med danske lexemer

Det er virkeligt fedt at se at dansk hænger godt med. :)

Ang. import fra danske kilder, har du prøvet at kontakte nogle af universiteterne eller https://oqaasileriffik.gl/dict/ og spørge dem om at frigive deres data til os under CC0?--So9q (talk) 15:00, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Jeg har spurgt tidligere Dansk sprognævns boss Sabine Kirchmeier (Q28362632) og det var et nej. Min plan var at spørge den nye Thomas Hestbæk Andersen (Q64087378) og forsøge at overtale ham. Jeg har foreslået i WordNet-miljøet, herunder DanNet-folkene Sanni Nimb (Q28524324) og Bolette Sandford Pedersen (Q28152375), at de frigiver under CC0, men så vidt jeg ved er der ikke nogen der har rykket sig. Min plan var også at forhøre mig i Grønland. Jeg har indtryk af at deres resource er baseret på Den Danske Ordbog (Q1186741) og det kan skabe licensproblemer. Endelig er der Wiktionary-folkene som jeg forhørte mig om de var stemte med at man tog bøjningerne (og ikke de semantiske definitioner) som WMF jo mener er public domain. Her var der kun en anden der deltog i diskussionen. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 15:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Herligt at høre! Jeg har kontakter i Esperanto-miljøet og har netop spurgt om lov på deres Wiktionary. Om WMF har udtalt sig at ordene inkl. bøjningerne er CC0 så kan jeg egentlig ikke forstå at vi bliver nød til at spørge om tilladelse. Jeg antar at vi gør det mere for ikke at så splid og træde dem over tærene. Faktum for mig er at Wiktionary ikke længere (efter skabelse af WD) er den bedste måde at gribe opgaven med at skabe lexemer og binde dem til betydninger og i forlængningen ordbøger an. Jeg har skrevet nogle argumenter ned for hvorfor jeg anser at den platform er forfejlet. Det er måske lidt kontroversielt når Wiktionary jo faktisk stadigvæk har mange flere aktive som bidrager (og har investeret en masse energi) end lexemeprojektet har lige nu, men jeg mener at vi er bedst tjent i længden ved at lukke wiktionary for nye ændringer (eller sætte store advarselsskilte op) og introducere de aktive for hvordan vi skaber lexemer og Q-betydninger i stedet.--So9q (talk) 15:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Public domain - bestemmelsesmetode?

Under indtastning af data til malerier fra Nivaagaards Malerisamling er jeg kommet i tvivl om jeg gør det rigtigt, hvad angår "Public domain" hvor jeg angiver CC0 for bestemmelsesmetode. Er det rigtigt, hvis nej hvordan skal det så være? se et eksempel her The Holy Family with St. Stephen (Q75135172) --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 16:07, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Er begyndt at bruge "100 år efter kunstnerens død" - hvad ser mere rigtigt ud. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:46, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Villy Fink Isaksen: Det synes også at være hvad andre folk gør: https://w.wiki/Ct4 — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok - jeg fortsætter med det så. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 20:24, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Villy Fink Isaksen: Jeg gad vide hvorfor folk skriver hundrede år når 70 år burde være nok, se hvad jeg har gjort her commons:File:Peter Ilsted - Ved klaveret - 1876-1898 - Statens Museum for Kunst - KMS1573.jpg. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 09:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ja, 70 år i DK, men serveren ligger i USA og Commons har et par gange truet med at slette det der ikke overholder 100 års reglen,. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 12:20, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Muligt alternativ til at skabe flere Q-emner

Hej, hvad synes du om at give offentliggøre samme Q som adj offentlig plus karakteriseret af: handling? se https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L222655--So9q (talk) 18:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC) Her har jeg givet sjællandsk (L54383)has characteristic (P1552)relation (Q930933), hvad synes du om dette?--So9q (talk) 19:32, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vil du tjekke den her?

Wikidata:Wikidata Lexeme Forms/Danish--So9q (talk) 19:35, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Jeg skrev nogle tanker på Wikidata talk:Wikidata Lexeme Forms/Danish. Jeg ved ikke om du så dem. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:17, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Billeder på betydninger

Hej, apropos dit billede på kørekort (L226707) har du set denne diskussion: Wikidata_talk:Lexicographical_data#Pictures_on_senses_-_bad_idea??

Jeg lagde billedet til på Q-en og angav også language of work, så at vi enkelt kan vælge det danske billede via sparql.--So9q (talk) 11:22, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ejefald på dansk?

Her lagde jeg til dollarens dollar (L226715), og så burde vi vel også tillægge dollarnes, men hvad hedder den form?--So9q (talk) 20:35, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DanNet og CC0

Hej, har du spurgt KU om de vil frigive DanNet til os under CC0? Deres licens er i praksis meget lig CC0 med undtagelse af at de fraskriver sig ansvar og ikke vil blive nævnt i erhvervsøjemed. Eftersom vi kan love dem begge dele så burde det vel ikke være noget problem for dem hvad jeg kan se.--So9q (talk) 00:12, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Skal vi spørge sammen eller skal jeg skrive og spørge? So9q (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Det kunne være en idé om du spurgte alene. Jeg har jo spurgt og måske ville de komme til en anden konklusion hvis de kunne se at flere var interesseret i at benytte resursen til Wikidata. Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:59, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hva

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L35332 lagde det til som form her, korrekt?--So9q (talk) 11:59, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Det er fint tror jeg. Jeg ser at mange "formelle" stavning af det formelle ord har formen "hva'" med apostrof, så skal det være en ny form? Jeg havde svært ved at identificere form uden apostrof, men den findes vel. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:16, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jeg kunne heller ikke finde den til min overraskelse, så jeg slettede den pga. brist på notabilitet.--So9q (talk) 20:38, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

KorpusDK property?

Hej, KorpusDK tror jeg vi med god nytte kunne lænke til fra alle lexemer. URLen er: https://ordnet.dk/korpusdk/qconc?query= Hvad synes du?--So9q (talk) 17:38, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hvad synes du om denne?

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L229395 er det nødvendigt at specificere hvilken form af det lexeme som det er afledt af? hvordan gør jeg det i så fald?--So9q (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Måske skulle det være en form under kunne (L11269) Det ser ud som om DDO gør det https://ordnet.dk/ddo/ordbog?query=ka%27 ? Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sprogprogram :)

Det her kan jeg rekommendere https://www.oppetarkiv.se/etikett/titel/V%C3%A4rsta%20spr%C3%A5ket/ (håber det ikke er geolåst så du kan se det)--So9q (talk) 00:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Desværre: "Programmet kan bara ses i Sverige". Ellers tak for linket. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 08:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II7wa3K9Lgc&list=PLE54A694BAD5FF7B0 findes lidt på youtube også.--So9q (talk) 11:31, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Batch adding "cites work"?

Hi, Do you know if there's currently a way of automatically batch adding all of the cites work (P2860) claims to a publication (like in Q55120315)? I'd like to get the published WikiJournal articles up to scratch, but I don't know which tool to use. I'd like to get links to Scholia on all teh article pages, but it only makes sense if we can guarantee that the wikidata items are relatively complete. Any advice appreciated! T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 09:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Evolution and evolvability: If the citations are in CrossRef, then I suppose the DOI-based citations could be made. There was a bot operating at one point by User:Harej. Otherwise I suppose we could build a tool that would extract the DOIs, add the DOI articles to Wikidata (if not already there) and link them via cites work (P2860). Another possibility would be to match with the full metadata, particularly the title. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:05, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a feel for how much work something like that would be to make? I've no experience at that sort of bot production, but very keen to find people who are able to. If necessary, I'm happy to write a grant to get some funding it it's a big job (the same probably goes for the items in this bot request). T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 10:42, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like to contribute to a WikiProject COVID-19 ?

Hello,

I saw you contributed to COVID-19 (Q84263196) and I was wondering if you would be interested in helping to create a Wikidata WikiProject COVID-19.

The goals would be initially (of course, they can be changed):

create a data model for instances of disease outbreak (Q3241045).
monitor the quality of the pages about national outbreaks listed in 2019–20 COVID-19 outbreak by country and territory (Q83741704).
curate the wikidata items relevant for describing the outbreaks and the virus itself.
curate and improve the information on Wikidata about scientific articles regarding the coronavirus (similar to the Wikidata:WikiProject_Zika_Corpus).
think and develop ways to process these items to improve access to information (for example, via automated articles in languages that currently do not have pages about country-specific outbreaks).

Would you like to participate in this effort?

I am trying to gather the Wikidata editors actively involved in the topic.I believe that if we act together, we can have a shot at aiding the global effort in containing the pandemic.

Thanks!

TiagoLubiana (talk) 00:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Fnielsen: @TiagoLubiana: I've added Wikidata:WikiProject COVID-19. Editing needed. :) Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 01:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ordia som stavekontrol

Hej :) Jeg snublede over http://petnoga.se/ og tænkte på dig og Ordia. Burde det ikke gå ganske let at lave en lignende service via vores leksemer? Hvad mangler ev. for at muliggøre dette? Skal vi registrere almindelige fejlstavelser under hver form? Ved du du om der er nogen der sidder på en database med ofte forekommende fejlstavelser som vi kan importere? Måske kan vi samarbejde med LibreOffice for at begynde at indsamle denne data? Mvh

@‪So9q‬: Det er en udmærket idé. Der er en vis grad af stavekontrol i text-to-lexemes da man kan se hvilke ord der mangler. Jeg er lidt bange for at det måske er for tidligt med stavekontrol. Vi har jo trods alt ikke så mange ord i vores database. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 19:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Enig, nytten afhænger af hvor mange ord der er i databasen. For engelsk begynder det at se meget godt ud synes jeg.--So9q (talk) 12:47, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ja, engelsk og russisk kunne gå. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citation metrics in Scholia

Dear Sir,

As I stated in a previous email, Scholia does not support citation metrics for scientists, papers and institutions. However, such metrics (such as the number of citations) are important to give an overview of the citation activity of the analyzed scholarly entity. That is why I ask if we can integrate SPARQL queries computing citation metrics for a scientist. I already adapted some of the Scholia queries for that:

Number of publications, Number of citations, Citations per paper: https://w.wiki/Ltx
Citations in the Last Five Years, Citations in the Last Five Years per paper: https://w.wiki/LuG
i10-index: https://w.wiki/LuF
i10-index for the last five years: https://w.wiki/LuE

I am still working on a query to generate the h-index and even the g-index of a scientist. I am also working to apply these metrics on other types of entities.

Yours Sincerely,

--Csisc (talk) 20:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Csisc: We do display citations information for some, e.g., "Citation statistics" at https://scholia.toolforge.org/author/Q18618629. It is possible we should display information a bit better. It is probably difficult to compute the h-index within SPARQL. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:27, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Fnielsen: I thank you for your answer. I know. However, adding citation metrics will give a summary overview of the research impact of a topic, a scientist, a journal or another item. I know that the implementation of the h-index is difficult. That is why I propose to implement the i10-index instead. Please find the SPARQL query returned it above. I am currently working on implementing an adjusted impact factor currently available on https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11192-020-03577-4. --Csisc (talk) 13:23, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphenation

Hej :) Skal vi ikke lave et værktøj til at hjælpe os at få danske stavelser ind i wikidata? Det burde gå at gøre maskinelt på en eller anden måde.--So9q (talk) 08:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Jo, gerne. Men hvor får vi CC0-data fra vi kan bruge? NST-lexical-database måske? Den har udtale som vi kunne bruge, men jeg er ikke sikker på orddeling.

'da' or 'kl' ?

Hi Finn,

I notice a contradiction on arfininngorneq (L73728), the main lemma says 'da' but the language and the form says 'kl'. Could you take a look and correct if needed?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@VIGNERON: Thanks for noting that. I have corrected it. I wonder if it is possible to make a SPARQL query that can show these kinds of errors. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 09:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! I actually found it with a query, the second one on Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Ideas_of_queries#Maintenance_and_repairing (which I did quickyl a wile back and was very poorly done, feel free to improve it). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 11:11, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation for the WikiProject COVID-19 call tomorrow (Monday, 15 of June)

Hello Finn,

How are you? I hope things are all right.

I would like to invite you to the tomorrow (Monday, 15 of June) call of the Wikiproject COVID-19 at 15:00 UTC .

This is the link for the call: https://meet.google.com/vtp-ighz-npx

This is the link for the etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wikidata_covid_notes

The WikiProject seems to be losing momentum. Perception of the size of COVID-19 as an enormous problem is fading (at least in Brazil). That might be a sign of things getting better, but it is also very dangerous (as they might not be that better yet).

In tomorrow's call, I would like to discuss with you two important and related questions:

- How can this WikiProject best serve the anti-COVID-19 effort?

- What can this project offer for the post-COVID-19 Wikidata world?

As usual, if you have any topics to add, you can do so either before at the Project Meeting Page or at the meeting. or at the meeting.

I hope you can make it!

All the best,

Tiago

TiagoLubiana (talk) 00:39, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposition of « parent language » property

Hello, I see you on Wikidata:WikiProject Linguistics. I’m french wiktionarian who want to work on languages on Wikidata. After testing some properties, I decided to propose a new propety « parent language » to link langagues as natural thing (not like construct thing with based on (P144)). I would like to have your opinion on the issue. Thanks ! Lyokoï (talk) 21:26, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Interview Invitation

Hi Fnielsen,

I noticed your editing stats in Wikidata, which led me to look up your profile. Thank you for all the great work!

I’m reaching out to you because I’m working on a research project about understanding what motivates editors like you to contribute to Wikidata. We’re also interested in learning about how you feel your contributions are being used outside of Wikidata. Since you are such an active community member, I thought you might also be interested in helping to build the broader community’s knowledge about Wikidata, and why it matters.

If you’re interested, let’s schedule a time to talk over Zoom, or whichever platform you prefer. If you are interested, please fill in a questionnaire or leave a direct message. The conversation should take about 30 min.

Hope you have a great day,

Chuankaz (talk) 04:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Chuankaz: I have answered your form. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata:Udstillingsemner

Jeg har tilføjet et emne her Wikidata:Showcase items nemlig Q18386245 under punktet "Foreslået til udstilling" vil du kigge på det og evt. tilføje noget eller rette? Jeg kan ikke rigtig komme længere. venlig hilsen --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 12:57, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Villy Fink Isaksen: Det ser fint ud. Jeg har vist tendens til at benytte catalog (P972) også som egenskab, - ikke blot kvalifikator. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tak! Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 19:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

main subject (P921)

Hello. I saw your careful edit summary and thought I'd explain my view on P921. I work on it, and I noticed your revert (because it changed the order of statements).

Things have become complicated, but several high-quality sources are now used for main subjects. I use PubMed publication ID (P698), both with a bot that queries the PubMed API, and by hand, looking at the starred topics on the article page there, in this case https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23731980/ (for the same information). There may be narrower topics available, as here, for example from the title of the article.

I believe it is better to keep the high-quality sources and their referencing, and include also text-mining from the title, with the sourcing based on heuristic (P887) inferred from title (Q69652283). In future, it is easy to see, people may wish to filter by the sources.

What I do is based on MeSH descriptor ID (P486), which has the advantage that the broader-narrower relationship can be controlled by MeSH tree code (P672). In this case you can see also an issue, which is that there have been problems with P486 statements on the wrong items, or constraint violations. That is why I have now removed the breast cancer (Q128581) statement, which was incorrect; breast neoplasm (Q23929670) is correct.

There are also keyword statements: see User talk:Daniel Mietchen#Keywords as main subjects for comments about those. I don't think the data modelling is great, but at present they are being included that way for P921. These keywords are typically generated by the authors of papers, so they are authoritative. But they are strings only, sometimes hard to disambiguate, and often incorrectly disambiguated.

As I say, it is complicated. With fuller MeSH information, it should be easier to import by bot from PubMed in the future. The MeSH strings should translate uniquely into Q-numbers, but that synching of 28K terms, which is nearly complete, still needs to be checked carefully. PubMed is the best general biomedical source: but there are other good specialised sources. The broader-narrow relationship should probably only be applied only when the source is the same.

I hope that helps.

Charles Matthews (talk) 10:33, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We sent you an e-mail

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You can see my explanation here.

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Flere exempler end polsk

Hej 😃 Jeg synes vil skal forsøge at slå polakkerne! Jeg tror et python skript som skrapar Wiktionary skulle være perfekt. Vil du være med?--So9q (talk) 04:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sagen er nemlig den at exemplerne juridisk set ikke er licenserede under CC-whatever på Wiktionary eftersom at de ikke har ophavsretten. Et skript kan derfor trække exemplerne ud og sætte dem ind på vores lexemer eftersom de er undtaget fra ophavsret. Dette burde holde vand på alle Wiktionary sprogversioner og skulle således kunne berige vores 300000 lexemer ret meget IMO. So9q (talk) 04:31, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Som jeg forstår er formerne nok at anse som i public domain, mens gloss og brugseksemplerne nok er beskyttede og under CC BY-SA. Så jeg tror ikke vi kan bruge dem. Jeg har forsøgt at finde en side der forklarede problemstilling, men har ikke lige kunnet. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 00:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A ha. Trist. Nå, så kan jeg kontakte russerne som importerede former fra den russiske Wiktionary i stedet. Ved du nogen stor officiel CC0 tekst eller bog på dansk? Jeg har fundet en kæmpe mængde på svensk her som jeg via python kan trække læmpelige exempler ud af: http://data.riksdagen.se/data/dokument/ --So9q (talk) 07:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Det er min opfattelse af love på retsinformation.dk normalt er under CC0. Jeg har gået ud fra Lissabon-traktaten og Europarl korpusset er frie. Derimod er jeg stoppet med at benytte DanNets glosser og brugseksempler. På Wikisource er der mange ældre tekster hvor ophavsretten er udløbet. Desværre er de jo med gammel stavning. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCite Virtual Conference - Scholia presentation?

Hi Fnielsen,

I am organising a session about author items in Wikidata on 26 October as part of the WikiCite Virtual Conference and would like to invite you to speak about Scholia profiles for researchers. It would be great to include a Scholia presentation as it demonstrates so well the importance of data quality. Please let me know if you are interested (email me if you prefer to discuss off Wiki). With best regards, Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 19:31, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sic19: Thanks very much for the invitation. I would like to accept. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you that once you have more details (time, length, topic, audience), it would be possible for you to let me know. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great, I am happy that you will be participating. A presentation of 20-25 minutes would be ideal - you will have a 30 minute slot, including time for questions. I have drafted a schedule and hope to finalise the timings soon. It would be helpful if you could confirm that 15:00 UTC on 26 October is a suitable time for your talk? I will set up a page for the session when the conference wiki is ready. Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 13:42, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sic19: 15:00 UTC on 26 October is fine. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:49, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I need to send you a link to connect to Streamyard for presenting on Monday. Please can you email me or provide an alternative medium that I can use to send a private message. Many thanks, Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 16:38, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lexeme Forms savner udråbsord og genetiv-former på navneord

Hej. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L34389 Her savnes formen "barnets" om jeg ikke tar helt fejl. Dvs genetivformene savnes i Lexeme Forms, orker du lægge dem til og sende til Lukas så formularen bliver ligesom den på svensk? Desuden savner jeg idiom og udråbsord i Lexeme Forms også.--So9q (talk) 15:24, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Mange tak for henvendelsen. Jeg har længe ville gøre noget ved genitiv. Oprindeligt satte jeg genitiv ind, men en henvendelse herover ("Danish has no genitive case") stoppede mig. Nu har jeg haft lejlighed til at tænke lidt over det. Jeg har bemærket at Retstavningsordbogens digitale form har ejefald. Jeg mener nok at vi burde have genitiv, selvom grammatikere kan hævde at det er et "enklisk" element. Jeg har fornyligt begyndt at sætte genitiv på egennavne. Her har jeg benyttet non-genitive (Q98946930) og genitive case (Q146233). Det grammatiske kendetegn "ikke-genitiv" er med inspiration fra Dansk sprognævns digitale fil. Efter min opfattelse må der være en forskel mellem det grammatiske og leksikografiske. Der er også tilfældet med foranstillet bestemt artikel, f.eks. "Den store mand". Grammatisk er navneordsleddet i bestemt form, men "mand" i Wikidata er angivet som ubestemt. Hvis man skal fikse det må det blive omstændeligt "ubestemt eller ikke foranstillet bestemt". Jeg ser ingen grund til at ændre vores annotering på dette punkt. Jeg gad dog vide om der er bemærkninger til annotering for genitiv? Fordelen er at man med genitiv har mulighed for stavekontrol på ordet uden at skulle i gang med at sætte et s'et på. Er non-genitive (Q98946930) og genitive case (Q146233) ok? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 15:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Øh, jeg er nok ikke den rigtige at spørge om dette. Jeg forstod ikke halvdelen af hvad du lige skrev, og jeg har aldrig været særlig stærk i grammatik. Jeg anvendte selv "barnets" i et brev i dag og deraf opdagede jeg manglen via ordia. Jeg håber du finder nogen at rådføre med om dette. Måske kan du hverve nogen på dansk sprognævn til at deltage i arbejdet eller en professor i dansk på et af universiteterne som kan deltage og opfordre de studerende til at deltage? Man lærer sig jo en del bare af at made wikidata har jeg opdaget :)--So9q (talk) 15:56, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Precisions on P8394

Hi,

I saw that gloss quote (P8394) had a strange label in French so I tried to correct it but it's not entirely clear to me what this property is. Could you add a description in English?

If I understood correctly, shouldn't there be a citation-needed constraint (Q54554025) ? (at least as suggestion but maybe mandatory?)

Also, maybe you would want to take a look at Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data#Author on a definition (scientific definitions) and constraint issues who use this property (it's how I discovered it).

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 08:51, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@VIGNERON: Thanks for the request. I have added a description in English. I have also added a constraint. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Har du Telegram?

Du er efterspurgt i Telegramkanalen hvor vi er 40 medlemmer som taler om leksemer. Gå med i hovedgruppen og kontakt @Mahir256 som holder i leksemgruppen om du er intresseret.--So9q (talk) 17:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tak for informationen. Jeg har tidligere haft Telegram installeret. Jeg må se at få den installeret igen. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Det lyder godt. Leksemgruppen findes nu via lænken ovenfor, det er ca 42 medlemmer og sker en masse hver dag. Vi savner en dansk Wikidata gruppe, men der findes en for Sverige og jeg har startet en for Norden.

Jeg har forresten for nylig skrevet det her python-værktøj som hjælper med exempelsætninger og er ret effektivt.--So9q (talk) 15:30, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have not joined Telegram yet. Is something the matter? Mahir256 (talk) 16:45, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mahir256: I sorry I haven't joined Telegram. I might need a new phone. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Three years later, do you have a new phone? Mahir256 (talk) 14:08, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brev til ODS i dag

Hej

Jeg er aktiv på Wikidata hvor vi registrerer alle danske ord i projektet leksikal data.

Jeg kan ikke finde permanente ID på jeres poster i ODS hvilket er et stort problem for os fordi hele ideen med en kundskabsgraf bygger på att vi kan linke permanent og unikt til andre steders indehold.

Fx har jeg netop skabt https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L401357

Og vil linke til jer, men https://ordnet.dk/ods_en/dictionary-1?query=%F8kseskaft&set_language=en virker ikke særlig unik eller stabil.

Kan I venligst bygge unike permanente links ind i systemet?

Mvh So9q Wikimedia Sverige/Danmark--So9q (talk) 21:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Jeg mener at sprogfolk på DSL og DSN arbejder på at udfærdige en identifikator for ord. Jeg mener jeg fik vist et link til et test-website hvor de var i gang. Jeg har vist ikke hørt noget siden. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 21:19, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Svar 7/1

Hej So9q
Tak for din henvendelse. Vores ord har selvfølgelig internt hos os unikke
id'er, men vi har (endnu) ikke gjort dem synlige for verden.
Problemet med permanente og unikke id'er har kun været et nødvendige for
netop den historiske ordbog ODS som benyttes som opslagsværk for
onlineprojekter som (fx) Søren Kierkegaards Skrifter. Den ordbog er
færdigredigeret så vi betragter *opslagsform(,homografnummer)* som unik og
permanent. Den permanent url/navn bliver derfor i dit tilfælde:
https://ordnet.dk/ods/ordbog?query=økseskaft

Men jeg er lidt overrasket over at I vælger at bruge den historiske ordbog
ODS som basis og ikke den moderne ordbog Den Danske Ordbog (DDO), der
ganske vist er mindre, men som til gengæld i modsætning til ODS indeholder
ord der er kommet ind i sproget efter 1955. Hvad er grunden til det? I Den
Danske Ordbog er faste udtryk i øvrigt selvstændige opslag så det vil være
muligt at linke til fx "goddag mand økseskaft".

Hvis vi vil promovere permanente og unikke id'er, vil det i første omgang
være baseret på DDO. Et sådan projekt er i støbeskeen - i samarbejde med
Dansk Sprognævn og Center for Sprogteknologi. Hvis du er interesseret, kan
jeg forhøre mig hos de involverede kollegaer for at høre hvor langt de er.

Jeres projekt lyder i øvrigt meget, meget spændende - og relevant at følge
med i for os. Hvor kan jeg læse mere om det? Jeg havde ikke held med en
hurtigt googling.

Med venlig hilsen
...

. Hvordan går det med Telegram? Jeg har ikke set dig endnu derinde :)--So9q (talk) 06:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

batch-edit Wikidata

Måske kan du hjælpe, da jeg ikke er nogen ørn mere i programmering, jeg har via denne side https://quickstatements.toolforge.org/ genereret wikidata til malerier med Artwork-skabelonen. Desværre kommer ikke alle data med mit sidste eksempel er https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q105531748 genereret udfra dette maleri: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:L.A.R_ing,_Jernbaneoverk%C3%B8rslen_ved_L._A._Rings_barndomshjem_i_Ring._Rimt%C3%A5ge,_1890.png der mangler bla. størrelse og i andre tilfælde inventarnummeret. Mon ikke det kan rettes således at flere data overføres til wikidata. venlig hilsen --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 20:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rename properties

Hello! :) Would it be possible for you to help with these?

Property talk:P3141#Rename property

Property_talk:P5576#Rename property

--EekoS (talk) 04:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dansk adjektiv på lexeme forms

Hej, jeg savnede den i dag da jeg ville skabe https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L455371. Vil du samarbejde om at skabe den?--So9q (talk) 08:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Hej, ja. Jeg har forsøgt at udvide leksemet. Jeg gad vide om du har kommentarer? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 08:51, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kanon arbete! Se for diskussion af adjektivskabelonen--So9q (talk) 11:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Scholia is getting attention

FYI https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/2021_04_05 https://zenodo.org/record/4633789--So9q (talk) 13:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Verktøjstips

Hej, jeg har skrevet det her skript for at hjælpe med at skabe nye leksemer fra dropdown-menuen. Fx skabte jeg denne https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L477918 gennem bare at søge efter den da jeg behøvede den her og siden klikke "create lexeme".--So9q (talk) 15:20, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Singulare tantum

Hei, Finn! Jeg har et spørsmål om hvordan singulare tantum (Q604984) brukes for dansk. Jeg ser en del leksemer hvor jeg stusser litt over at ordene ikke har noen flertallsform. F.eks. for jul (L37293) – kan man ikke f.eks. kjøpe juletre flere juler på rad på dansk? Eller si at været var bedre de to forrige påskene (påske (L37294)) enn det var i år? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 15:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon Harald Søby: Grammatik over det Danske Sprog, 2nd edition, volume 2 (Q61715535) påstår at det er singulare tantum (Q604984), men Den Danske Ordbog (Q1186741) har dog flertals formen [8]. Den Danske Ordbog (Q1186741) har ingen flertalsform for påske [9]. Googling giver heller ikke meget på "påskerne". Måske skal "jul" præciseres på en måde? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jeg ser nu at Retskrivningsordbogen har flertalsformen for "påske" [10] ... Så der er forskel på hvad der forskellige kilder siger om "jul" og "påske". Jeg synes der er en del leksemer hvor entalsformen er den dominerende og flertalsformen er meget sjælden. For mange ord der ender på -hed er jeg usikker, f.eks. "kærligheder" ses lidt på Internettet men ikke i Retskrivningsordbogen. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:49, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Text-to-lexemes for Wiktionary

It would be nice to have this tool when adding words to Wiktionary as well. Splitting up the text into words would be the same. Then it needs to see for each word if that form exists in Wiktionary. For Swedish words in Swedish Wiktionary, this could be a simple category look-up, but today we have no category for that. Would it help much if we had one? All the lexemes (basic forms) are found in wikt:sv:Kategori:Svenska/Alla_uppslag, but the inflected forms are not kept in a single category. Is text-to-lexemes too tightly coupled to Wikidata, for this wish to be realistic? Ideally, the tool would use a simple API towards Wikidata that could be replaced by a connection to a dictionary of choice. --LA2 (talk) 17:14, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lets import all the words from svWT instead. Then we could create a tool that makes a new WT page with every new lexeme and everything is in sync 😀 So9q (talk) 15:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LA2, So9q: Med inspiration fra jer har jeg nu lavet en tabel for Wiktionary https://ordia.toolforge.org/L2310-F1. jeg kan godt se at det er ikke det der bliver efterspurgt. Jeg må tænke lidt videre over sagen. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 20:35, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hvordan skal vi gøre med "vegne"?

DDO opgiver det som et substantiv. Hm. Hvilket køn er det? Jeg fandt det her "på foreningens vegne"--So9q (talk) 11:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Det er vist pluralia tantum, hvor kønnet ikke er klart. penge (L2955) har samme problem. Jeg har nu tilladt mig at lave vegne (L483532). — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors

Dear Fnielsen,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King’s College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research that develops a personalized recommendation system to suggest Wikidata items for the editors based on their interests and preferences. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I would love to talk with you to know about your current ways to choose the items you work on in Wikidata and understand the factors that might influence such a decision. Your cooperation will give us valuable insights into building a recommender system that can help improve your editing experience.

Participation is completely voluntary. You have the option to withdraw at any time. Your data will be processed under the terms of UK data protection law (including the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018). The information and data that you provide will remain confidential; it will only be stored on the password-protected computer of the researchers. We will use the results anonymized to provide insights into the practices of the editors in item selection processes for editing and publish the results of the study to a research venue. If you decide to take part, we will ask you to sign a consent form, and you will be given a copy of this consent form to keep.

If you’re interested in participating and have 15-20 minutes to chat (I promise to keep the time!), please either contact me at kholoudsaa@gmail.com or kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmmFHaiB20nK14wrQJgfrA18PtmdagyeRib3xGtvzkdn3Lgw/viewform?usp=sf_link with your choice of the times that work for you.

I’ll follow up with you to figure out what method is the best way for us to connect.

Please contact me if you have any questions or require more information about this project.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 15:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen this userscript?

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:So9q/ordia-link.js :)--So9q (talk) 22:14, 27 July 2021 (UTC) And this where I just added Danish https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Nikki/LexemeEntitySuggester.js#Add_Danish--So9q (talk) 22:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tak! Nu har jeg endelig fået sat det ind. Bedre sent end aldrig. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 19:55, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nyt egenskabsforslag for ODS

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes#Ordbog_over_det_danske_sprog_ID--So9q (talk) 22:46, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gender confusion

Thanks for fixing sex or gender (P21) in Kim da Costa Carneiro (Q29413322). Just to clarify, when I changed it, it was due to the fact that Prabook (Q25328680) (which is presumably edited by the subject) refers to Carneiro as "daughter of Vasco V. and Kirsten E. (Prange) Carneiro". --Bender235 (talk) 14:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bender235: Thanks for the explanation. I did not know Prabook. I wonder how much one can trust Prabook? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 06:05, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I think about it, we should probably take it with a grain of salt. Previous discussions on Prabook in WP:RS/N (see Archive #211 and Archive #268) seem to agree that it generally falls under our WP:USERGENERATED guidelines. Either way, thanks for catching the mistake. --Bender235 (talk) 14:22, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Danish Nonprofits

Hello Fnielsen, I just founded Wikidata:WikiProject Nonprofit_Organizations a few days ago. I've seen you created/edited some Danish NGOs. Perhaps you are interested in contributing? I'm especially interested if there is something like a national register of charities, an NGO ID or if there are umbrella organizations/lists of NGOs to expand the Identifier & Sources. Best Newt713 (talk) 10:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strange stem

Hi,

I'm wondering about this Special:Diff/1373101140. First, you did it on London (L43313) which is the English lexeme but put a stem in Danish (I can see the same statement on London (L673696)). I'm guessing this is a mistake, no? VIGNERON (talk) 06:20, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@VIGNERON: It is clearly a mistake. I suppose it is "in my finger" and not in my conscious brain. Thanks for noting it. I have fixed it. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 09:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Danske love

Hej :-) Jeg kan se, at du for nylig har oprettet emner vedrørende love og lovbekendtgørelser. Jeg har også selv arbejdet med disse emner på det seneste. Vi er tilsyneladende næsten men ikke 100 % enige om, hvordan forskellige aspekter skal repræsenteres, så jeg skriver her for at finde fælles fodslag for at sikre en ensartet oprettelse/formatering. Her er mine forslag og betragtninger. Jeg vil meget gerne høre din holdning til disse.

Når love henviser til hinanden, benyttes ikke stort forbogstav i lovteksten, hverken i den formelle titel (fx “lov om rettenspleje”) eller populærtitlen (“retsplejeloven”), så navnene betragtes tilsyneladende ikke som proprier. Jeg vil derfor mene, at vi bør skrive lovene med lille forbogstav i label, alias, title (P1476) og short name (P1813). Når navnene skrives med stort i overskrifter på retsinformation.dk, er det fordi, at de her optræder som første ord i en sætning.
Jeg foreslår som udgangspunkt at bruge lovens populærtitel som den primære label. Lovens formelle titel samt evt. lovens nummer og dato (fx “lov nr. 123 af 31. januar 2021”) som aliaser. Desuden anføres den formelle titel som title (P1476) og populærtitlen som short name (P1813). Hvis en lov erstattes af en lov med samme navn (udover blot ved lovændringer af den eksisterende lov), foreslår jeg at tilføje et årstal til navnet, fx Danish Penal Code of 1866 (Q30718699) vs Danish Penal Code (Q3436245).
Skrivemåden “LOV nr 434 af 09/06/2004” er mig bekendt ikke alment brugt udover i overskrifter på retsinformation.dk. Jeg foreslår derfor, at vi ikke bruger denne skrivemåde i Wikidata. I stedet foreslår jeg skrivemåden “lov nr. 434 af 9. juni 2004”, hvilket er den skrivemåde, der anvendes i lovtekster.
Mht. de engelske labels benyttede jeg indledningsvist ordet “Danish” for næsten alle love, fx “Danish Copyright Act”. Efter at have læst dette svar hælder jeg nok mere til at udelade “Danish”. Jeg har dog ikke ændret det.
Iflg. grundlovens § 14 skal love underskrives af både monarken og en minister. Hvis man anfører signatory (P1891) for en lov, bør man derfor anføre (mindst) to personer.
En lov er levende størrelse, der først vedtages og sidenhen ændres ved lovændringer. Derfor vil jeg mene, at der for full work available at URL (P953) bør anføres et publication date (P577) som kvalifikator. Det giver nok ikke mening at anføre alle udgaver af loven her (visse love bliver ændret flere gange om året), så jeg foreslår at linke til den oprindelige lov på retsinformation.dk og evt. den seneste lovbekendtgørelse. På retsinformation.dk kan man jo selv klikke sig frem og tilbage til de enkelte versioner.
Nogen gange udgiver ministerier og andre en uofficiel oversættelse af lovtekster. Dem kunne man evt. også linke til under full work available at URL (P953).
Jeg kunne godt tænke mig at repræsentere lovens årstal og nummer (“lov nr. 123 af ... 2021”). Har du et bud på, hvilke egenskaber der kan bruges til det formål?

-- C960657 (talk) 18:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Elections - 2015 Danish general election (Q1964961)

Hi, wanted to report that you have mistakenly used the property successful candidate (P991) in 2015 Danish general election (Q1964961). The property is for candidates (aka political parties) who sucessfully got seats, not the name of every member elected. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask me. Thank you! KajenCAT (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@KajenCAT:. Sorry. But for the Danish parliament it is people that is elected not parties. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:59, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and also for the Catalan parliament, but Wikidata structure is this way. For the candidates elected, is in their item with position held (P39). Example: Aleqa Hammond (Q1796195) have this property with member of the Folketing (Q12311817). KajenCAT (talk) 20:14, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@KajenCAT: Ok. Thanks for the explanation. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 20:15, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Empty item (Q101404269)

Hello, I'm BrokenSegue. You recently made an empty item. An item is empty if it does not have any claims or sitelinks. Unfortunately, such items are not useful to Wikidata, and they are normally deleted. If you were planning to return to this item later in order to complete it and it was deleted you can request it be undeleted here. Remember that all items are expected to demonstrate notability, and we strongly discourage editors from creating items where they have a conflict of interest, for example about themselves or their employers. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! BrokenSegue (talk) 01:21, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the item is linked from a number of other items. It should not be deleted. &mdash Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kulturmiljø og Kulturmiljø

I skandinavismens ånd :) Det finnes både cultural environment in Norway (Q4567002) og cultural environment (Q106908189) slik jeg ser det så er cultural environment in Norway (Q4567002) emne for en listeartikkel og refererer også til cultural environment (Q106908189) smed instance of (P31) siden både User:Susannaanas og User:Fnielsen har redigert mye på cultural environment in Norway (Q4567002) så vil jeg gjerne få høre deres mening om å gjøre om cultural environment in Norway (Q4567002) til Wikimedia list article (Q13406463) Mvh Pmt (talk) 19:52, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Pmt: Ja, det giver vel nok mere mening at det er en listeartikel. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 09:40, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vil du være med og lave en maske for dansk?

Jeg læste https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Using_Lexemes_in_Abstract_Wikipedia_-_Wikidata_Quality_Days_2022_Presentation.pdf og skabte https://github.com/google/lexical-masks/issues/2 So9q (talk) 15:24, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Jeg har lavet nogle ShEx for danske ord https://scholia.toolforge.org/work/Q64862991 De kan forbedres. Jeg gad vide om du tænkte på andet? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:36, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eksempel: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/EntitySchema:E34 — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ja, jeg har set dem. Masker er generaliserede over shex. “ It includes a few lexical masks in the directory mask, as well as a script to transform the masks into ShEx files that can be used on lexicographic entries in Wikidata.” So9q (talk) 06:07, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Jeg er ikke sikker på jeg forstår hvad lexical masks udover det vi allerede har i Wikidata Lexeme Forms og i ShEx'erne. Jeg kigger i https://aclanthology.org/2020.lrec-1.372.pdf — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:52, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jeg læste artiklen og kiggede på koden. Det er en simpel generisk implementation i json som de genererer shex ud fra.

se https://github.com/google/lexical-masks/blob/master/src/json_to_shex.py

Fordelen er at vi ikke binder os til at bruge Shex mwn øvelsen er måske noget akademisk eftersom ingen andre beuger de der masker hvad jeg kan se. 🤷‍♂️

Desuden savnes et skript til at opdatere wikidata entity skemaer ud fra disse foreslåede masker.

forstod du hvordan sølvmasker skulle defineres? Jeg savner et exempel på en sådan. Ved du hvordan man laver en i shex? So9q (talk) 22:38, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Validering af lexemer

Har du set at WDI nu støtter både lexemer og shex? “ Shape Expressions (ShEx) is a structural schema language for RDF graphs. It allows to express the graph structures such a Wikidata items. The class wdi_core.check_shex_conformance tests a wikidata item on conformance to a given ShEx. In the example below the wikidata item helium (!560) is checked for conformance to a schema expressed as shape expression for chemical element (E46). from wikidataintegrator import wdi_core

print("Q560 conforms to E46"+wdi_core.WDItemEngine.check_shex_conformance("Q560", "E46"))”

Det betyder at vi nok skulle kunne nemt finde danske lexemer som behøver fixes. So9q (talk) 06:18, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it seems this is only implemented for items at the moment. 🤷‍♂️ See also https://github.com/LeMyst/WikibaseIntegrator/issues/470 So9q (talk) 06:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like an API that takes a lexicographic category qid a language qid and an entity schema and gives back statistics to incorporate in ordia?

would you like an API that takes a lid, entity schema id and gives back whether it validate or not to incorporate in ordia? So9q (talk) 06:28, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It makes sense to have it in an external API to get the data. Or we could just recalculate for all shex we know about once a week and make it a core part of ordia. :I prefer a separate API to keep it simple.

We could offer precalculated json data updated once a week in addition to avoid lag in ordia. --So9q (talk) 06:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Vi kan godt definere JSON for dansk. Et problem kan være uregulariteten, e.g., druk (L46327). Jeg ved ikke hvordan vi kan validere lexemer nemt. Validering via standardløsningen tager jo lang tid. Det er slet ikke så hurtig som almindelige SPARQL-forespørgsler. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:25, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jeg skulle ville forbedre https://github.com/Teester/entityshape så den understøtter leksemer også. So9q (talk) 12:48, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

COR

Hej, har du automatiseret form->COR id? Om ikke, vil du ha hjælp med det? Har de en API så man enkelt kan finde et det korrekte ID for en form? So9q (talk) 16:43, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nej, endnu ikke. Det er på min todo-liste. Du kan se dokumentationen på https://ordregister.dk/. Her kan man se at https://ordregister.dk/fuldform/COR/csv/have returnere noget relevant. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:48, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Læg mærke til at der er nogle ting man skal være opmærksom på. Superlativ går nogle gang galt i COR vil jeg mene. Det er også et spørgsmål hvordan perfektum participium skal repræsenteres. Jeg synes det skal være tillægsord, da vi nemmere kan håndtere synonymer/hypernym — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 16:50, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok jeg tænkte i første hånd bare lægge til ID.

Ok jeg tænkte i første hånd bare lægge til ID på vores dabske leksemer precis som jeg gør med SAOB, SO og DDO.

Ved du hvilken licens deres data har? So9q (talk) 12:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: COR har CC0. Society for Danish Language and Literature (Q12308333) er ikke så villige til at frigive deres data under en så åben licens. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I så fald kan vi ju skabe et værktøj som importerer fra COR 😃

Jeg vil gerne arbejde på det også. So9q (talk) 13:42, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Det vil være fint! — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk)

@So9q: Danish Language Council (Q196134) har lavet en revision, men har endnu ikke frigivet den. Rettelserne skulle komme "snart". Måske skulle du vente indtil 1.03 (eller hvad den måtte hedde) kommer. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:28, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nyt værktøj for leksemerne

Hej :) Jeg kom endelig i hus med et værktøj som foreslår combines og gør det enkelt at lægge til. Produktiviteten for mig med det her er nu ca 1 combines per minut, men det sløves meget af at jeg kører på svensk og der savnes mange sense så det lægger jeg til. So9q (talk) 20:32, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Tak. Jeg benyttede det på dansk. Der komme ikke rigtig noget ud. Måske fordi alle ord er linket!? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:14, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Skal undersøge det, jeg har bare testet på svensk. :) So9q (talk) 11:37, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was caused by Swedish being hard coded in the SPARQL :sweat smile: Fixed now on master branch, see https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Lexeme%3AL349082&diff=1838607324&oldid=1327370093 for first edit in danish lexemes. So9q (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Fnielsen Nu støtter det også -s- se https://github.com/dpriskorn/lexeme-combinator/issues/8 So9q (talk) 10:46, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: For "handelsvare" foreslog den "handel" + "svare". Det andet ord er et udsagnsord der ikke passer med navneords klassen for handelsvare. Måske kunne man lave noget der. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:59, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hvad skete der siden? Trykkede du nej så -s- kombinationen blev undersøgt?

Forresten har Nikki og Ainali i telegram chatten skrevet at de på svensk og tysk undviger at kombinere med interfix.

De bruger i stedet genetivformen, i dit exempel handels og vare. Dertil lægger de både betydning og objekt form så det er krystalklart hvad som kombineres. På former som kun bruges ved sammensætninger lægger Nikki til p31 combination form. Jeg ønsker mig en bred diskussion om dette så vi er konsistente på tværs af sprogene.

Vil vi altid ha et navneord sidst når vi laver sammensætninger i dansk og svensk?

Grafen burde kunne svare på det 😀 So9q (talk) 07:39, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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There is now a single property value. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:15, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Danska lemmaer med digrafer

Hej. På Lexeme:L314518 er der gennemgående 3 lemma dvs den exakt samma ting skrives på tre forskellige måder. Noget lignende har vi på dansk hvor rød kan skrives roed og så saa. Jeg synes vi skal lægge disse til. Spørgsmålet er hvilket wid som jeg kan skrive i feltet under lemma. Har du et forslag?

Udfra https://da.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Det_dansk-norske_alfabet skulle vi kunne kalde det digrafdansk dvs dansk med digrafer istedet for æøå. Se også https://sproget.dk/raad-og-regler/Retskrivningsregler/retskrivningsregler/a7-1-6/a7-3-a-og-dobbelt-a

Ifølge https://denstoredanske.lex.dk/digraf findes flere digrafer end dem for æøå: I nutidig dansk retskrivning findes ingen digrafer, men tidligere anvendtes bl.a. som på latin ph, th og ch for f, t og k i græske låneord som gengivelse af fi, theta og chi So9q (talk) 07:10, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@So9q: Lexemer som Aalborg (L183795) er repræsenteret med flere former og linket til Det Centrale Ordregister (Q112174921). Det svarer vel til [11]. "roed" er vel næppe et dansk ord. Jeg tror ikke man kan finde det i en ordbog, så det virker på mig som for inklusivt at tage et sådan ord med i Wikidata. Mht. til gamle stavemåder, fx. saa, kunde, Døren (stort begyndelsesbogstav for fællesnavne), så er jeg i vildrede. Har vi eksempler på andre sprog hvor stavemåde har ændret sig? Jeg har ikke bemærket det på svensk eller norsk. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:32, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Forsøgsvis har jeg sat digraph (Q191494) med has characteristic (P1552) — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:40, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Svensk har før reformen i 1953 en masse stumme bogstaver och konstigheter. Se fx https://www.prefix.nu/alderdomliga-ord.html

Vidare finns det dialekter som västerbotniska där orden sägs och stavas helt annorlunda, se tex https://www.isof.se/lar-dig-mer/kunskapsbanker/lar-dig-mer-om-svenska-dialekter/utforska-sveriges-dialekter/norrlandska-mal/vasterbotten och https://www.vbm.se/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2009_1.pdf So9q (talk) 19:38, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re Q2336584

Re this revert, the bot just imports from enwiki, and the short description is still live(!) at en:Faroese Scientific Society.... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:00, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mike Peel: Now I am confused. Where is the short description on the English Wikipedia's page on the society? — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 19:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First line of the wikitext, template "Short description" - now reverted. If you spot bad descriptions added by Pi bot, the wikitext on enwiki is normally the best place to look for where it came from. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:16, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mike Peel: Thanks for the explanation! — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 07:19, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Automated report of empty item: Q118513176

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File

file 95.5.51.87 15:30, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Ny Literatur." items

Hello, not sure that items like Ny Literatur (Q121628709), Ny Literatur (Q121628713), Ny Literatur (Q121628706) are good idea. More items might be found using search. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 18:20, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivan A. Krestinin: Yes. I have extended the metadata about the items and skip new similar "articles" when entering issues in Wikidata. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:38, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RAW

Hello

For your information, I've written a news about Wikidata:Synia in the last issue of RAW, a community newsletter written in French.

See here : (fr) Explorer Wikidata autrement avec Synia in RAW PAC2 (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@PAC2: Merci beaucoup. Ces pages peuvent présenter un intérêt particulier pour les Français: https://synia.toolforge.org/#gallery/Q726781 https://synia.toolforge.org/#language/Q150 et https://synia.toolforge.org/#language/Q150/podcast — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 10:30, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

neck-payment (Q105491553)

Hej,

may you please translate this to English for me?-- U. M. Owen (talk) 18:57, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@U. M. Owen: Thanks for your interest. I have attempted a "translation" on the item now based "Nordic Lexicon" at https://www.dhi.ac.uk/lmnl/nordicheadword/displayPage/1966?browse=0 "neck-payment" may be an English translation. halslausn is claimed on the page to be the "Old Nordic" form. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

United States Army War College

Can you put "Escuela de Guerra del Ejército de los Estados Unidos" (spanish wiki) in United States Army War College? Thank you. 139.47.78.243 20:33, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure where you want me to add this information. "Escuela de Guerra del Ejército de los Estados Unidos" seems to be linked to National War College (Q137269). The other item of possible interest is United States Army War College (Q635078) — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 15:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to best add "cites work" properties to items for journal articles

Hello,

I noticed you added some "cites work" properties to the item Q124091039. Thank you! If you don't mind my asking, I'm curious how you add those properties, especially if you've managed to automate any part of the process. I have done that for other articles but I had to manually search to see if the works cited had Wikidata items, then add then in hand by hand. And that took a lot of time. Thanks for any information or advice on making that process go more quickly, and for improving the item for that article!

--Emwille (talk) 14:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Emwille: I am only semi-automated. If there is a DOI, I copy-paste it (or the URL) into the search field of Scholia at https://scholia.toolforge.org/. This will generate Quickstatements if the publication associated with the DOI is not already entered. It also works for arXiv identifiers. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 11:14, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fnielsen I didn't know Scholia could do that, thank you! --Emwille (talk) 13:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kalliope

För den danska websajten Q19702730 (Kalliope.org), borde det kanske finnas en Kalliope author ID (motsvarande Property:P1938 och Property:P3154). Ett entry som Q5893571 (Axel Juel) skulle länka till https://kalliope.org/da/works/juelaxel som ju är mycket mer användbart än Projekt Runeberg för den här personen. Det handlar om 300+ personer. LA2 (talk) 20:02, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@LA2: God idé — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 20:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jag lade till ett entry i Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control. --LA2 (talk) 22:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding external identifiers to Danish lexemes

If you missed it earlier this year, I wrote a Mix'n'match-like tool called Mishramilan (মিশ্রমিলন) that lists entries in a lot of catalogs and allows one to match entries from those catalogs to Wikidata lexemes. There are currently four Danish catalogs (for DDO and two dictionaries which also cover Greenlandic; plus there is an ODS catalog on the way) whose entries you may be interested in matching to the plethora of Danish lexemes that currently lack such identifiers. Mahir256 (talk) 13:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I will take a look at it. Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]