Wikidata:Property proposal/Chuvash Encyclopedia ID

Chuvash Encyclopedia ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Withdrawn

Description	idenfity for article in Chuvash Encyclopedia Online
Represents	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	`\|id=cv.enc`
Domain	human (Q5), encyclopedia (Q5292)
Allowed values	`(prsn\|world\|publ)(-[1-9]\d{0,4})?-[1-9]\d{0,4}`
Example 1	Boris Yeltsin (Q34453) → prsn-2409
Example 2	Cheboksary (Q5470) → world-1108
Example 3	acupuncture (Q121713) → publ-118-327
Example 4	Volga-Vyatka Economic Region (Q1050174) → publ-1120
Source	http://enc.cap.ru/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	as authority control and identifier
Number of IDs in source	10,020
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://enc.cap.ru/?t=$1&hry=$2&lnk=$3
Country	Russia (Q159)
See also	Encyclopedia Tatarica (tt) Online ID (P8373), Encyclopedia Tatarica (ru) Online ID (P8377), bashenc.online ID (P9222)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Russia (Q10803886) - `{{Russia properties}}` - Russia

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Done: Chuvash Encyclopedia person ID (P10596) (Talk and documentation)

Description	idenfity for article about a person in Chuvash Encyclopedia Online
Represents	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	`\|id=cv.enc`
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	`[1-9]\d{0,4}`
Example 1	Boris Yeltsin (Q34453) → 2409
Example 2	Valeriy Zagrebaev (Q62560697) → 1436
Example 3	Viktor Blazhenov (Q4087943) → 1037
Source	http://enc.cap.ru/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	as authority control and identifier
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://enc.cap.ru/?t=prsn&lnk=$1
Country	Russia (Q159)
See also	Encyclopedia Tatarica (tt) Online ID (P8373), Encyclopedia Tatarica (ru) Online ID (P8377), bashenc.online ID (P9222)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Russia (Q10803886) - `{{Russia properties}}`

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Done: Chuvash Encyclopedia place ID (P10597) (Talk and documentation)

Description	idenfity for article about a place in Chuvash Encyclopedia Online
Represents	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	`\|id=cv.enc`
Domain	geographical feature (Q618123)
Allowed values	`[1-9]\d{0,4}`
Example 1	Cheboksary (Q5470) → 1108
Example 2	Novocheboksarsk (Q175433) → 1109
Example 3	Alatyr (Q103255) → 1111
Source	http://enc.cap.ru/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	as authority control and identifier
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://enc.cap.ru/?t=world&lnk=$1
Country	Russia (Q159)
See also	Encyclopedia Tatarica (tt) Online ID (P8373), Encyclopedia Tatarica (ru) Online ID (P8377), bashenc.online ID (P9222)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Russia (Q10803886) - `{{Russia properties}}`

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Done: Chuvash Encyclopedia topic ID (P10598) (Talk and documentation)

Description	idenfity for article about a topic in Chuvash Encyclopedia Online
Represents	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	`\|id=cv.enc`
Allowed values	`[1-9]\d{0,4}`
Example 1	acupuncture (Q121713) → 327
Example 2	Volga-Vyatka Economic Region (Q1050174) → 1120
Example 3	Arabs (Q35323) → 666
Source	http://enc.cap.ru/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	as authority control and identifier
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://enc.cap.ru/?t=publ&lnk=$1
Country	Russia (Q159)
See also	Encyclopedia Tatarica (tt) Online ID (P8373), Encyclopedia Tatarica (ru) Online ID (P8377), bashenc.online ID (P9222)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Chuvash encyclopedia (Q19909792)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Russia (Q10803886) - `{{Russia properties}}`

Motivation

Chuvash Encyclopedia is one of the few regional encyclopedias in Russia that has its own version on the Internet. In addition to information about Chuvashia, here you can also find information about the regions of the Volga region, as well as famous Russian politicians. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Can you clarify what values you expect this to take? Your examples (like 'http://enc.cap.ru/?t=prsn&lnk=2409') look like URL's, not id's; also they don't match the proposed regular expression. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:34, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Question: In this case, it will be quite difficult to find a single identifier, since the topic is divided into three parts - Personalities (prsn), Geography (world) and Articles (pubi). How to make a single identifier in such a situation? Although, for example, there are subject categories in the Great Russian Encyclopedia, but when linking to Wikidata, only the digital code of the article is needed. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:08, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It will be better to create three different properties: PRSN, WORLD and PUBL evs 💬 23:01, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
Notified participants of WikiProject Russia — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury NGOgo Pierre Tribhou Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering Hiperterminal (talk) מקף Lovelano Ecravo Chado07 Soufiyouns
Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:35, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Properties has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Agreed with @Evs: that this property should be split into three IDs for person (PRSN), world (WORLD) and other (PUBL) where each property is an instance of Wikidata property related to encyclopedias (Q55452870). Otherwise I support these properties being created. --Dhx1 (talk) 11:27, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, an important property for Russia.--Arbnos (talk) 23:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
Notified participants of WikiProject Russia,
Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury NGOgo Pierre Tribhou Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering Hiperterminal (talk) מקף Lovelano Ecravo Chado07 Soufiyouns
Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, because this property proposal still not split into three different proposals. It need to be fixed. evs 💬 06:50, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Kolja21 (talk) 00:19, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Carn (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MasterRus21thCentury, ArthurPSmith, Evs, Dhx1, Arbnos: @Kolja21, Carn: I started to create the split (see above). Please add more example, especially if you speak Russian (it is not easy for me). Please correct eh English as well if needed. I see no issue with the person and the place but the topic is tricky since there are two numbers that can move (hry (not always present) and lnk). I do not know how to handle it properly. Any ideas? Pamputt (talk) 22:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]