Wikidata:Property proposal/YList ID
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YList ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
Not done
| Description | identifier for Japanese species (and infraspecies) of plant in the YList database |
|---|---|
| Represents | BG Plants: Japanese name–scientific name index (YList) (Q98090379) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | taxon (Q16521) |
| Example 1 | Alnus hakkodensis (Q15378007) → 22165 |
| Example 2 | Phacelurus latifolius (Q5700194) → 3 |
| Example 3 | Persicaria thunbergii (Q27236033) → 49319 |
| Source | http://ylist.info |
| Number of IDs in source | 39714 rows in the 2021-05-14 download [1] |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | http://ylist.info/ylist_detail_display.php?pass=$1 |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | BG Plants: Japanese name–scientific name index (YList) (Q98090379) |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Taxonomy (Q8503033) |
Motivation
[edit]A Template:Taxonbar (Q22741012) identifier (Q853614) with scientific names, Japanese/Chinese/Korean names, and bibliographic data, for Japanese plants; thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: citation data may be preferable to that in International Plant Names Index (Q922063), eg, Alnus hakkodensis (Q15378007) [2] vs. [3], Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:48, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
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Question How do you deal with taxonomic changes? It seems they treat Japanese common names as axes, not scientific names, so IDs will not make sense in some cases. For example, I show you hamayabukarashi (Jap.: ハマヤブカラシ) case where they abandoned connection of ID 37340 with Cayratia maritima Jackes, replacing the latter with its recombination Causonis maritima (Jackes) Jackes (vide 13 April 2023 et 24 February 2024). Currently Cayratia maritima has ID '49489' instead. --Eryk Kij (talk) 07:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, I guess it might be possible to look up changes between a future download and the current, but there is no apparent log of changes and the download(s) are not regularly updated; in your example, 37340 shows a data-editing date that is before the change you note; it might be possible to structure the proposed property formatter URL instead as a search (like the Wikispecies template), but I fear maintenance issues as YList is currently operated make this identifier non-viable; thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:11, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- @エリック・キィ:, would you like to give your opinion based on the response? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 07:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, I guess it might be possible to look up changes between a future download and the current, but there is no apparent log of changes and the download(s) are not regularly updated; in your example, 37340 shows a data-editing date that is before the change you note; it might be possible to structure the proposed property formatter URL instead as a search (like the Wikispecies template), but I fear maintenance issues as YList is currently operated make this identifier non-viable; thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:11, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done, no support for creation. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 12:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
