Wikidata:Property proposal/applies to work

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applies to work

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

   Done: applies to work (P10663) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptionwork or narration for or in which this statement is true
Data typeItem
DomainI'm thinking mostly of fictional/mythical/etc. entities, for now, but this could be broadened
Allowed valuescreative work (and similar entities like
Example 1Gawain (Q831685) child (P40) Wigalois (Q43376180); <applies to work> Wigalois (Q2569730)
Example 2The Little Man (Q5787753) narrative role (P5800) foil (Q5563727); relative to (P2210) Pink Panther (Q15012089)}; <applies to work> The Pink Panther Show (Q140680)
Example 3Mickey Mouse (Q11934) contributor to the creative work or subject (P767) Les Clark (Q1368756); object of statement has role (P3831) character animator (Q28122926); <applies to work> The Sorcerer's Apprentice (Q3202209)
Example 4Mahogany Town (Q15133086) population (P1082) 14; <applies to work> Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver (Q611189)
Planned usemoving uses of of (P642) and present in work (P1441) to the new qualifier

Motivation

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Currently we use both of (P642) and present in work (P1441) to restrict a certain statement about a (fictional) entity to a certain work. present in work (P1441) should be used to restrict statements to the works in which they are true (e.g. Gawain (Q831685)child (P40)Wigalois (Q43376180)present in work (P1441)Wigalois (Q2569730) or Mahogany Town (Q15133086)population (P1082)14present in work (P1441)Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver (Q611189)), of (P642) should be used to restrict statements to works about which they are true (The Little Man (Q5787753)narrative role (P5800)foil (Q5563727)relative to (P2210)Pink Panther (Q15012089)of (P642)The Pink Panther Show (Q140680) or Mickey Mouse (Q11934)contributor to the creative work or subject (P767)Les Clark (Q1368756)object of statement has role (P3831)character animator (Q28122926)of (P642)The Sorcerer's Apprentice (Q3202209)) (see Wikidata:WikiProject_Narration#Qualifiers). However, the distinction is not made consistently and I often see present in work (P1441) used for the second type of restriction to a work.

I noticed that the use of of (P642) is deprecated and we should try to find new, more specific properties to replace it. So first this proposed property should replace the uses of of (P642) to restrict statements to works. Moreover I think that this new property can also be used to replace the uses of present in work (P1441) as a qualifier. As written above the distinction is not made consistently and I also don't see a loss of information when using the new property for both use cases. Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 14:22, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Valentina.Anitnelav Thierry Caro Shisma Arlo Barnes Tsaorin SilentSpike Maxime জয়শ্রীরাম সরকার Wolverène Rampant Spirit Rtnf dseomn lijil

Notified participants of WikiProject Narration - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 14:22, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Valentina.Anitnelav, Jean-Frédéric, Shisma: Done --Trade (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]