Talk:Illusion of Gaia

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I think we should find some pics of Shadow, Kara, Will....

Early version

Just wanted to say that Gamepro magazine had a review of this game when it came out that described much of what's listed on here about the other version of the game. Soul Blazer: Illusion of Gaia is how they titled it and mentioned the main character being named Tim. Graphics looked the same. I was always confused about that review, so it's nice to see that it wasn't just them saying the wrong information. DeathWeed (talk) 04:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Title Looks Like...

I just realized about how similar the title to this game looks like the legend of zelda one64.123.79.254 12:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Too long

This article doesn't need to be this long. There's no use in summarizing the plot from the perspective of every named character in the game. I suggest that this article be reduced. Shiva Indis 05:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I was just wondering why it is you think that it needs to be summarizied? Don't get me wrong, I don't intened to change it, but I had alot of information, and I just supposed that people would want as much information as they could get.

~PhantomBPR 8/5/06

I think the article needs less plot summarization. For example, as it stands right now, the article says in three different places that despite claims that they will be separated in the new world, Will and Kara are reunited. Preferably something like that should not be repeated at all. This sort of repetition was present in each character entry, and built the article up to a size of about 48kb, when 32kb is Wikipedia's recommended limit.

There was also a lot of material in the article that was just conjecture. There's no dialogue in the game to support the claim that Freejia is emptied of people by the vampires. Only one person in the Ocean Palace actually states that they came from Freejia, and the fact that they all look like they come from Freejia doesn't constitute proof. Likewise, there is no way to confirm that Dao is the capital of the desert, or that the scene after the final credits takes place in South Cape. Also, Wikipedia is not a strategy guide, and a list of all the bosses and their attacks is close to crossing the line. Shiva Indis 17:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wōdenhelm (talk • contribs) 23:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Quite sorry, my bad. You're more of a seasoned pro at Wikipedia than I am. I am sorry for causing any chaos, although I'm 99.9% sure the people in the ocean palace are from Freeja. ~PhantomBPR

No problem at all. I know Wikipedia's guidelines can be overwhelming. But thanks to your contributions, this article is very thorough now. Shiva Indis 22:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Cut me down!

Man, this article needs to be shortened. I don't even know where to start... Sraan 03:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Organize

Think maybe we could create different articles in order to shorten the original? Like creating a "Illusion of Gaia Monster List" and "Illusion of Gaia Locations"?Leonida November 21th 2006

Future?

I have played this game countless times, and nowhere does it imply that this game is set in the future of our own earth. I suppose it could be looked at that way, but it seemed that this was just a time period prior to the 20th century; I saw nothing in the game that implied that Illusion of Gaia takes place in the future, with the exception of the ending. At the most, this seems to be speculation; I see no proof that this is true. I intend to look into this. Because I have found no proof that what was claimed was true, I have deleted it. PhantomBPR

11/22/06

More Cuts?!

I look at this discussion page, and I see so many suggestions to cut this page down even more so! It is minimal enough as it is, if anything it needs more info.

I assume you are tongue-in-cheek. This thing is huge! 70.56.114.69 16:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

There was no sarcasm in any of that, I was serious, hell I still am.

Missing Dungeon

The temple mountain near Euro, with its strange plants is missing in the article! (i think its based upon wawel temple mountain in krakow/poland, which in a hindu legend is said to be one of the energetic centers of the world, cause one of a goddess tears dropped there. (some others dropped in rome or jerusalem f.e.))

I corrected North America's release date

I corrected North America's release date for Illusion of Gaia; it should be "September 1, 1994", not "January 1". --Angeldeb82 (talk) 01:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Other Illusion of Gaia Merchandise

I remember I had an Illusion of Gaia coffee mug when I was younger. It had the "Illusion of Gaia" logo on one side and a heat/cold activated image on the other side. When you put coffee in it, it showed images of Freedan and Shadow...

I believe I got it from a Nintendo Power catalog which also had a couple of other Illusion of Gaia pieces in it. Unfortunately, I was not able to find any references to the mug or anything else on the internet, and I no longer have the mug.

Just FYI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejsexton82 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Australian version PAL60?

The article stated that the Australian version used the US localisation (I'm not disputing this) but converted to PAL60. I find this unlikely considering the one way to get a PAL60 SNES was to mod it back to the correct speed. It's much more likely that the game was simply converted to PAL like any other NTSC to PAL conversion. eyeball226 (talk) 00:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

This game was not released in Australia under the name Illusion of Gaia. It was released as Illusion of Time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.249.108 (talk) 00:24, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

the japanese title

atlan, what are you doing? most articles on japanese products have their original name written out pretty clearly. "illusion of gaia" is not necessarily a translation of "ガイア幻想紀", never mind what quintet's website says (we don't use "granstream saga" either); there's a reason why the note uses the phrase "biography of the illusion of gaia". 75.177.119.25 (talk) 22:12, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

The Japanese name is still there so I don't understand the problem. I reverted your edit which needlessly messed with the Nihongo template, removed a source and added the Japanese name to the infobox out of "respect" for it. The Japanese name was not there out of a lack of respect, it wasn't there because it's not standard practice.--Atlan (talk) 00:15, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

writing the japanese name out like that is extremely common, and one of these many examples is next-door-neighbor terranigma. while i get that it's probably not so common to put it in the infobox, i don't see why it's an issue; surely the infobox should be used for any regional titles of a work? why do they necessarily have to be english?

the problem with that source is that it doesn't actually relate to the used excerpt, and that it's using an incorrect translation. since the translation in the article was so long standing, i figured it'd be better to remove the pointless source. 75.177.119.25 (talk) 05:17, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

You did the same thing at Terranigma last year and that got reverted as well. "Records of the Illusion of Gaia" is a rather silly translation, but it isn't wrong. Where do you see "biography" anywhere? And we do use The Granstream Saga. I don't understand the points you're trying to make. --Atlan (talk) 10:31, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

who did what now? i'm not sure what you mean, as terranigma has "known as <X> in Japan" thing... that's what i'm talking about. just about every japanese product article ever has it, unless there's a fairly sound reason like with, say, the legend of zelda. if you mean putting the japanese title in the infobox, then... again, i don't see the harm in it. it's not "standard", but you kinda have to start standards on wikipedia! it's best to put every applicable title for a game, not just the "english" ones; this only adds, it doesn't subtract.

oh, sorry, i must have misread "records" for "biography"... that's a different term and a different game. i'm not saying that translation is wrong, i'm saying the one on quintet's site (the source that's near the "records..." translation) is wrong and isn't exactly explaining said "records..." translation. on granstream, i was referring to how we use "the". overall, i'm referring to how we don't and shouldn't adhere so closely to what quintet's site says, as it's full of errors.

so we're not trying and shouldn't try to put illusion of gaia into a situation like zelda because of that. it's still not the same even then... "(the) illusion of gaia" isn't commonly seen in japanese sources; i doubt you'd find it anywhere in the actual game, at least. similarly, we don't and shouldn't actually use "the creation of heaven and earth" for terranigma's japanese title aside from noting it as a translation. 75.177.119.25 (talk) 23:27, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

No, you wouldn't see that in Japanese sources because in those sources the name would simply be rendered in Japanese. Illusion or fantasy is a normal translation for the word 幻想. I don't see why that is a problem. As for Terranigma, you were the one that removed the translation of the Japanese title last year when you still logged in as Despatche. You also removed that on this article a few days ago. That is apparently your MO when you object to a translation. It's fine if you can offer a better translation but please don't just remove them.--Atlan (talk) 00:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

uh... this is getting really silly. i'm objecting to "illusion of gaia" and "ガイア幻想紀" being paired together as if the former was only a translation for the later like with zelda... it's not. the problem isn't 幻想, it's 紀; you'd have to be REALLY poetic to treat "illusion" as a translation of "幻想紀". if the game's title was instead something like "ガイアの幻想", things would be a LOT different.

i don't know why you keep calling me despatche. i would never remove the terranigma translation because it's an official translation, site errors be damned. actually, i recommend that it be written as "The creation of heaven and earth" just for accuracy's sake, and that maybe as a future standard there should be a separate etymology section for the large number of names a product might receive... which would definitely help for iog here.

so far, i've been saying the translations are fine! what's not fine is treating "illusion of gaia" as a translation of the japanese title, and thus hiding the japanese title, as is being done right now. we don't have this or any similar problem on tenchi souzou, so why should we here? 75.177.119.25 (talk) 12:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, then I misunderstood you point. Of course I know that the English title is basically a simplification of the Japanese title. But I think the article makes it clear that the English title and the Japanese title are different just fine. I don't see how it is "hidden", as you say. It's just not in the infobox.

As for calling you Despatche, come on. Don't treat me like I'm an idiot. If you are going to deny that you are Despatche, than this editing falls foul of WP:SCRUTINY, which is unacceptable. I'm not likely to start an SPI over it, but then I'm not the one you clashed with last year over exactly these kinds of situations.--Atlan (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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