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Offer to help

Hello! If I may offer to help you in your efforts to be a productive Wikipedia editor? Please reply here on your Talk Page, I will get an alert. Thanks! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 04:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes please! I would be thrilled to get your guidance. NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 23:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

I am happy to help you if I can. First, to sign your name and date-stamp, you have to add four "tildes" to the end of your posts. Four "~'s" in a row. Any questions you have, I might be able to answer or point you in a good direction. Cheers! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 06:15, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I am so new to this I can't tell you! Even this form of communicating is odd compared to what I am used to. Please let me know how to continue our dialogue with your assistance, please. Thank you!!

NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 23:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

This is a slow form of communication from what you're probably used too. Emails! I am very glad you want to help Wikipedia be better. This is the best place to keep our dialogue, so if other editors want to follow what we are doing, it's all in one place. So, how can I best help you? I am a pretty strong copy editor, and I could help to point you in a good direction if I do not know the answer you need. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 00:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 22:22, 18 December 2018 (UTC) I would love to make a page for an influential Art Director I am a fan of, James Dargie. He has been an inspiration to me and many others and has worked on some great projects: Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, The Matrix Films, Final Fantasy, & Defiance to name a few. Here are some other links. Does this help to get the ball rolling?

GenreTainment! - The Cast Of Being Human and Defiance 11/09 by SFP Now | Entertainment Podcasts

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sfpnow/2012/11/09/genretainment--the-cast-of-being-human-and-defiance

Published works[edit source]

Siggraph paper: "Modeling Techniques: Movies vs. Games"

Honours, decorations, awards and distinctions[edit source]

Navgtr Award, 2002 [edit source]

Jump up^ Professional website http://www.claviusbase.com/ Jump up^ LinkedIn Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameshdargie Jump up^ IMDB credits entry http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0201199/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 Jump up^ Metroid Wiki Page http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/James_Dargie Jump up^ IGN Stars Entry http://www.ign.com/stars/james-h-dargie Jump up^ Game Credits http://www.giantbomb.com/james-dargie/3040-36204/ Jump up^ MobyGames Credits http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,11936/ Jump up^ Pittsburgh Post-Gazette http://www.post-gazette.com/business/businessnews/2003/09/07/You-don-t-have-to-be-a-starving-artist/stories/200309070024 Jump up^ Vive Developers Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJ0P1PYAUY

WOW! What a coincidence... One of my first articles was for a famous art director and set-designer Edwin B. Willis!! That's really a surprise to me, and I hope you too!

I looked at your citations... I'll list what I think are good ones and leave out the ones like YouTube links we can't use. News sources and books are good, and we'll do a Google Books search as well. Here's the good cites: [1] [2]

Those two citations are thin but I think they will be ok. Especially the IMDB entry. Pure gold. I've gotten articles into mainspace with less! Now the issue is writing the article so it contains ONLY the information you can get from those two sources, and maybe something will turn up on a Google Book search. The main thing to remember is, you can always make a short (or stub article, as they are called here) into a much more complete article as you find more information. I can tell you it's great to see articles I started years ago, and people come and make them so much better by adding good pictures and more information. Very satisfying.

Also, because of the message you received below I decided to join the WP:TEAHOUSE project to help out when people need it. Keep me posted on how this article is going, OK? Cheers, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 22:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)!

Great news! That is a coincidence. I assume your first entry got through okay? How should we begin? I have a headshot snagged from one of his companies' websites and can write up a biography and work history. And as you say, try to base it on the information from the two best entries. Should I send it to you once written?

Thank you!!! NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 19:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

I think we should avoid adding anything from his personal website at least until the article passes a peer review, adding material from his "personal website" might be viewed a problem. The material has to come from "verifiable, trusted source unrelated by any commercial or business interest" of the subject. Sometimes, in Wikipedia: Less is more. Start with a short article based on the two sources I described above... The Post Gazzette article and the IMDB entry. Squeeze as much info out of those two and rewrite the article to include only info from those sources, then add them as citations. We'll take it from there. Remember, a bad citation (one we can't use) will wipe out the good will that the "good citations" carry. The point is to get the article accepted on it's positive merit to the project. Cheers! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 19:48, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

How is this? I also have a headshot for him when the time is right :)

James H. Dargie (Art/Creative Director) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

James H. Dargie Origin North Adams, Massachusetts Genres Video Games, Film, TV, VR Occupation(s) Artist, Art Director, Creative Director

James H. Dargie is an American artist, Art Director and Creative Director.He has worked in video games and film on hit titles like Call of Duty, Medal Of Honor, Metroid Prime, Defiance, The Matrix and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.

James was born on January 29th, 1970 in North Adams, Massachusetts and studied Industrial Design at the Art institute of Pittsburgh. After graduation he moved to his first professional job at Take 2 Interactive in Latrobe, PA. where he became a lead artist and technical director on full motion video games and PC titles.

His talent for visual story telling naturally lead him to film production where he was a lead artist on Square Pictures' computer graphics film, "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" (2001), working with holograms, animation and modeling. He later worked as a senior modeler for LucasArts and as a modeler for ESC Entertainment on the feature films Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions and afterwards in Los Angeles for Electronic Arts and Activision, two big independent game makers.

His official website is www.claviusbase.com

James lives with his wife a daughter in Los Angeles.

Known Works[edit source] 1997: Ripper 1998: Black Dahlia 2001: Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within 2002: Metroid Prime 2003: RTX: Redrock 2003: Matrix Reloaded 2003: Matrix Revolutions 2004: Medal of Honor Pacific Assault 2007: Medal of Honor Airborne 2010: Call of Duty Black Ops 2012: Unit 13 2013: Defiance 2015: Fantastic Plastic Squad 2017: Raw Data References[edit source]

[1] https://www.post-gazette.com/business/businessnews/2003/09/07/You-don-t-have-to-be-a-starving-artist/stories/200309070024

[2] https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0201199/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 05:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

• I did some editing, hope you like the changes...

Wow! This is amazing of you to do!! Thank you. I think it is great for sure. I added the film and game titles. Please feel free to submit this yourself any way you can. I don't even know the first step in doing that. I can always have the honor of adding the photo ;) Is there anything else I can do to help? Thank you again!! NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 03:03, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year! So am I looking for one more source? Is that what we're waiting for?

Thank you again!!! NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 02:13, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

NW99, if you have access to good print sources that mention Dargie, like gamer magazines and things that are mainstream, that would be a big help. You'd have to read on how to add printed citations but it would be worth it. Maybe the local library might have copies of old gaming books and magazines. The only thing lacking citations from what I can see are the items in the lists below the article space. You could probably omit the lists for now and submit the article as it appears in the section below. Let me know what happens, Cheers! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 04:32, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Good idea! I find this information out.

He was a panelist at the 9th Annual Interactive Achievement Awards; listed on page 7: [3] https://www.dicesummit.org/images/pdfs/IAAvs6.pdf

Interview with Defiance Behind the Scenes: [4] https://www.polygon.com/2012/11/6/3605630/defiance-behind-the-scenes-syfy-trion-battlestar-farscape

The Medal of Honor Airborne Official Prima guide lists him as the CG Director: [5] https://archive.org/stream/Medal_of_Honor_Airborne/Medal_of_Honor_Airborne_djvu.txt

He was interview on the Electronics Playground on 2013-03-28 @ 00:18:40: [6] https://archive.org/details/EP.Daily.2013.03.28

Also recently interview for this Polygon article "The rocky story of Retro Studios before Metroid Prime" [7] https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/29/17386066/the-rocky-story-of-retro-studios-before-metroid-prime

Also an interview with the Viveport team here @ 00:01:50 [8] http://community.viveport.com/t5/Viveport-Blog/This-Is-Real-Survios-developing-Raw-Data-for-Vive/ba-p/400

What do you think? NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 04:58, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Hamster. What do you think of the additional info I found? NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 02:40, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Hamster. I haven't heard from you in a while. Anything else I can do to help expedite this? Thank you again for all your amazing help!! NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Hamster. I hope you or someone else can help me out. There is a new article just published in 'PC Gamer' with Mr Dargie in it: https://www.pcgamer.com/why-devs-make-merchandise-and-what-it-costs-them/

Is this enough to try?

Please help :)

There is this recent interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqyQxtjbcQA&t=15s&ab_channel=FirstContactEntertainment

And this interview here: https://magecast.buzzsprout.com/199140/6096217-054-highway-to-the-phantom-zone-final-fantasy-the-spirits-within

Could we try again? NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 22:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC) NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 04:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC) NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 21:04, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

James H. Dargie

Moved to Draft:James H. Dargie

 – {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:03, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 03:00, 23 December 2018 (UTC) We can add the link to the citations in a footer section at the bottom of the article. Then you add a stub tag at the bottom by typing {{ }} with the worb stub between the brackets. Put that in as the very last line, and remember, don't sign your article! Your name will appear in the edit summary, and everyone will know you started this article... Excited!?

I took out some of the things I couldn't find exactly in the citations. We can always add more to this article as better citations are found. This is just a beginning phase. Feel free to change this how you'd like, or use it all. The credit goes to you, I am just a helper. Cheers! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 18:45, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

• Important Info I just found out the IMDB ref is no good! Since anybody can edit that page, it means we can't use that <ref>. It used to be a good source, but not anymore... How things change. We WILL find good refs though, and do our best to get your article in. Sorry about my mistake, but this news came as a real surprise to me. It's only a set-back though, and not the end of the story. Cheers!
• This[3] might be a better source. It's a page that's easily translated and it seems like an actual article where Dargie is described as a "weapons modeler" So that's some specific information we can add to the article if the <ref> checks out as a reliable citation source. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 03:14, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
• This [4] article from a business news website might appear to be a solid reliable source, but then it starts to look like a place where companies go and put stuff about themselves, and we can't use that.

The problem I'm having is that there's a tiny little bit of his story that is verifiable, and then a whole lot of sources that are wiki or blog or fan driven we can't use as source material. They all say the same thing, "Dargie is a notable talent who has worked on many important projects." You know it's true, and I believe it's true but we have to PROVE it, with 3 good citations, that seems to be the minimum for a "biography of a living person." You should read WP:BLP It's very boring, but very important if you write about living people. I hope this didn't muddy the water too much, but I am confident we might be able to find print sources from reliable books, magazines and trade journals. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 03:31, 21 December 2018 (UTC) NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 02:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 22:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC) Thank you, Teahouse!

Are you able to follow this thread and see where I went wrong? I think I found enough to justify this entry. Please help :) NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 22:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

• I formatted the references, but if all you have in the way of sources are those outlined above, you haven't got an article. The Pittsburgh newspaper article is the only reliable source you have. If you haven't yet, please read WP:My first article and WP:42. These explain our notability standards and what it takes to meet them. This guy would need to meet the specific requirements outlined at WP:ANYBIO or WP:NCREATIVE. If you have any questions, please see the friendly folks at WP:TEA. Happy editing! 174.212.222.125 (talk) 06:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I don't see the references anywhere, BTW. Where would I find them? So the Pittsburgh article is one and the PC Gamer must count too? I even have the issue in print. And credits for games don't count at all? Thank you again!!! NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 21:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Any idea why game credits on shipped AAA titles don't count? Working on Medal of Honor and Call of Duty are big!NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 17:48, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I added a few more references I found online recently. I can't seem to format them correctly? NinjaWarrior99 (talk) 03:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

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