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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
  • As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

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  • Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:33, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit conflict at you-know-what article

Hi, GW, it seems we edit-conflicted over varying ways to nominate that article for deletion. I'm not really sure it qualifies for G3 (to my eternal regret), but I'm happy to restore the tag for you to get another admin's opinion, or however else you think we should handle it. Cheers, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:34, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, AfD is fine also. I tagged it rather than deleting it directly since I wanted a second opinion over whether G3 applied, so I'll consider yours to be that second opinion. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:35, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article that needs speedy deletion

Hi. Could you put Draft:Fever dream (sleep physiology) for speedy deletion. There are no more reliable sources out there. I won't be able to improve the article. --Pek (talk) 17:02, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, done. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:04, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Could you also put Draft:Aim trainer, it's impossible to find any other good sources other than the 2 that already exist in the article. (Kind of strange that those 2 aren't enough, but you are the boss, so...) --Pek (talk) 17:06, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. WP:RS has more details on what's required for sourcing, and will help explain why those two sources were insufficient. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:08, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Essay critique

I have created a new essay and would welcome some critique on the talk page there:

Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:00, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
For your contributions to 2023 Titan submersible incident. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red July 2023

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Errant talkpage archives

Came upon some errant talk page archives. Please take a look at Talk:Laura Loomer, because, well it has 2 archive pages Talk:Laura Loomer/Archive 1 and then, Talk:Laura Loomer/Archive 7. The reason I am posting about it here is that, ummmm....actually, it was a 2020 edit of yours that caused it, because that introduced the code of "counter=7". I have no idea how to fix this... Besides the Archive 1 & 7 issue, Archive 1 is the only page listed in the talk page header... Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 08:39, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think maybe Archive 7 can just be re-named as Archive 2 and the "counter=" in the coding either just deleted or changed to 2? but not sure. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 08:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Shearonink: Thanks for letting me know, I probably copied the template from a different page and forgot to update the counter. Fixed now. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:17, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh THANK YOU for the fixes. Yeah, I do that all the time - lift code from one article and sometime have forgotten to change something internal. Shearonink (talk) 16:20, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

added Novem Linguae
removed

Bureaucrat changes

removed MBisanz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blockchain-powered AI

I was recently reading your Web3 blog (which is great, by the way) and it got me to wondering if there have been any newsworthy attempts to separate people from their money by trying to hack together AI and blockchain technology. It seems almost inevitable, but I haven’t seen any examples in the news yet. 28bytes (talk) 13:49, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, hell, stuff that back into the bad ideas box and follow Wikipedia:BEANS! Courcelles (talk) 14:01, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and no. There are a ton of projects that claim to incorporate AI in some way, most of them pretty harebrained. I'm not sure if many of them have hit the "newsworthy" level yet. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:32, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jhoan Duran image deletion on wikipage

Hello, I just want to know why the image I added on the Jhoan Duran wiki page was removed. Was there some sort of copyright issue? MinnesotaVikingsFan5 (talk) 03:17, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see commons:File:Jhoan Duran with the Twins.jpg. It does not appear that the publication you've linked released the photo under the Creative Commons license that you've included. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:20, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I understand. Are stock images considered public domain, and thus available to use on Wikipedia? MinnesotaVikingsFan5 (talk) 03:35, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, not necessarily (and not even typically). You need to look for photos that are explicitly released under a compatible license. This Commons tutorial might be useful, as well as Commons:Licensing. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:39, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bouncing something off you

I thought about this while reading the latest gong show at Talk:Palmer Report, but for obvious reasons it seems more appropriate to bring the issue up somewhere that isn't an active battlefield.

What the hell is our deal with "fake news websites"? If you look at Category:Fake news websites, you'll see that none of them are really fake news websites. Occupy Democrats, for example, is a Facebook meme page that says outrageous things -- since it is idiotic clickbait, these things are often false, but it's not really a "fake news website". I don't think there is any indication that they are going out of their way to publish false things, or that it's their main goal, just that they are lazy and don't care much about whether things are true. Similarly, OpIndia does not seem like a fake news site: it's a real news site, just a very shitty one that does not have any decent fact-checking.

Per our own article, fake news websites "deliberately publish fake news—hoaxes, propaganda, and disinformation purporting to be real news". That is, they are completely bogus, and the people running them are aware of this, and they exist for the main reason of getting people to believe false things. It really doesn't seem to me like a simple lack of fact-checking fits the bill: certainly it causes the website to be lousy, partisan, low-quality, unusable as a news source -- but not fake.

What do you think of this? Is it worth an RfC or a larger discussion, or am I just being a pedantic chode? By the way, check the HTML note for an extra-hot take. jp×g 11:34, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly, OpIndia does not seem like a fake news site: it's a real news site, just a very shitty one that does not have any decent fact-checking. - You are wrong. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. jp×g 01:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG: I think part of the issue may just be the weirdness of the term "fake news". When I hear it, I think of Trump talking about CNN or whichever center/left outlet has caught his ire at the moment, not of a sober term used to describe the actual issue of mis/disinformation disguised as accurate reporting. But for better or for worse, it has entered the common lexicon, and I think part of the problem is that its mainstream usage still runs the gamut of meanings, from the Trumpian "news I don't like/agree with" to "active and intentional disinformation".
I do think that if we consider "fake news website" to refer to ostensibly "news" websites with a reputation for regularly publishing falsehoods in order to push an agenda, the category makes sense. InfoWars, Project Veritas, OpIndia, Natural News, LifeSiteNews,[a] The Epoch Times, and The Gateway Pundit are all outlets I'm relatively familiar with from that category, and the term certainly seems to suit them. If the term is defined to mean outlets that knowingly, intentionally publish falsehoods, it narrows a bit, and I think some of the sites included in the category could be questioned. Project Veritas and InfoWars seem to knowingly, intentionally publish and repeat falsehoods, for example, whereas some of the others could plausibly argue that they are just particularly gullible when it comes to regurgitating falsehoods that match their prior positions. Whether that's a distinction that should be made in the category is certainly an interesting question.
There is, of course, an issue where the line can blur around news satire. A lot of The Onion-esque sites publish headlines that could easily be mistaken for real news (and regularly are), and to varying extents rely on the "satire" label as a shield when outrageous stories are mistaken for fact (for example, as discussed The Babylon Bee#Mistaken for factual reporting). However, I'm not sure any of these such sites are included in the fake news category at the moment.
As for your hot take, I don't really think that's likely. Some of these outlets meet that descriptor, sure, but I can think of others that are much more of a thorn in our collective sides that aren't categorized here. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:28, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ Disclosure: I created and wrote much of this article

It wouldn't take much too convince me, but ...

[1] looks quite extreme. There is a link to something else, so I'd appreciate a 2nd opinion. Smallbones(smalltalk) 15:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Smallbones That should be REVDELed imo EvergreenFir (talk) 15:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Smallbones hell, all of those edits since GW's should be reverted and REVDELed EvergreenFir (talk) 15:34, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@EvergreenFir: I've only just got back and haven't had time to check it out - but you're the admin, not me, please do what you think is best. Smallbones(smalltalk) 20:24, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like this is handled. Sorry, Smallbones, I'm online a bit sporadically these days. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:29, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red 8th Anniversary

Women in Red 8th Anniversary
In July 2015 around 15.5% of the English Wikipedia's biographies were about women. As of July 2023, 19.61% of the English Wikipedia's biographies are about women. That's a lot of biographies created in the effort to close the gender gap. Happy 8th Anniversary! Join us for some virtual cake and add comments or memories and please keep on editing to close the gap!

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Willwill0415

Any clue what the deal with this guy is? You seem to well acquainted with him Trade (talk) 15:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WMF-banned editor with a strong interest in the incel topic. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Message

hello, let me guess you might not be the most familiar with indian soccer topic, but to see how messed things got, check pages i listed which all show opposite stadium capacity of the one you protected. and please solution, does a wrong number need to be added to them, or you fix as it used to be at stadium article;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1167395795 93.140.103.186 (talk) 21:55, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to discuss further at Talk:Vivekananda Yuba Bharati Krirangan, but as has already been explained to you, you need to provide reliable sources (not other Wikipedia articles) to support your changes. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Its fair but i dont know all technical details, can you please change capacity with source to these pages; 93.140.103.186 (talk) 21:59, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Super League another locked page has now wrong stadium capacity, as i know indian users are very slow or careless sometimes, please make this change if read soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.140.103.186 (talk) 22:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is up to you to provide the sources. Once you've found them, you can leave a comment on the talk page of the article in question if you're not able to edit it directly. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dulqueer Salmaan

Hi, it is regarding the repeated vandalism at Dulqueer Salmaan article. Yesterday, you AC protected it after a request at RPP, but now it is being attacked by EC users. One of them is a newbie user that recently got 'promoted' [2], while another one seems to be an older problem user [3]. I've requested them to discuss the matter here. Is EC protection an option? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:45, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 13:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red August 2023

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Two new accounts claiming to work for WMF

TT0298 (authorized) (talk · contribs) and JDelage-Sié (WMF) (talk · contribs). Looking at the first users edits you might want to take a quick look? Knitsey (talk) 14:20, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Knitsey: I've confirmed that the latter account is a legitimate WMF employee. Handling the first. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look. They were both created at the same time so I wasn't sure, thanks for the fast response. Knitsey (talk) 14:40, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SS talk page

You've been whacked with a WikiMinnow..

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you might have done something silly.

You were a little quick to hat those discussions and made a teeeeensy mistake. You added a Template:Hidden archive bottom, a Template:Hidden archive top, a Template:Hidden archive top, and a Template:Hidden archive bottom, in that order and it messed up the talk page (new threads were going inside the hidden archive haha). I've fixed that all now! :3 F4U (they/it) 00:05, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ope, thank you! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

added Firefangledfeathers
removed

Interface administrator changes

added Novem Linguae

Technical news

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:54, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incel matter

Hello, GorillaWarfare,

I just thought I'd let you know that the category, Category:Incel-related violence was retitled, through CFD speedy renames, to Category:Misogynist terrorism. I'm not sure if this will affect anything related to the matter but since you edit articles on this subject, I thought I'd alert you to the change.

I hope you are having an enjoyable summer! Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 19:11, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up, I would've missed it otherwise. Hope you're having a great summer also! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Thanks! Time flies. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, I had forgotten your RFA was so controversial, and yet fairly low turnout, too. Happy 13th anniversary! Courcelles (talk) 22:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Alex Collins (American football)

On 18 August 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Alex Collins (American football), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:18, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Table captions

Hi GorillaWarfare. Not sure you were aware when you removed the table caption on Rich Men North of Richmond, but as I said in my revert, they're required per MOS:TABLECAPTION, part of our larger guideline on accessibility, and it was even raised at the RfC on table captions in 2020 (Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Archive 15#RfC on table captions) that they may be redundant to sighted and visually impaired readers alike after section headers, but it was still ultimately decided we should have them. Ss112 19:31, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was not, thanks so much for making me aware! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Niantic Peridot

Totally didn't just name my latest hatch-a-dot after you for no particular reason. :) SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:49, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just had to look this up, for a second I thought I was the namesake for some kind of exotic fish :D I'm honored either way! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:13, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello GorillaWarfare

Do you know that this account is a sockpuppet of User:TT0298 (authorized)? 41.225.87.249 (talk) 10:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The only issue with the first account was the username. They are permitted to create a new account — see WP:SOCKLEGIT's "username violations" section. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is the second account not the first, TT0298 joined before 41.225.87.249 (talk) 17:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September 2023 at Women in Red

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ITN recognition for Denyse Plummer

On 30 August 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Denyse Plummer, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 12:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous

  • Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.
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DYK for Oliver Anthony

On 13 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oliver Anthony, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Rich Men North of Richmond" by Oliver Anthony was the first single to chart at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 with no previous chart history for its artist? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oliver Anthony. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Oliver Anthony), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 12:33, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Rich Men North of Richmond

On 13 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rich Men North of Richmond, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Rich Men North of Richmond" by Oliver Anthony was the first single to chart at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 with no previous chart history for its artist? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oliver Anthony. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Rich Men North of Richmond), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 12:34, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hook update
Your hook reached 10,554 views (917.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of September 2023 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:30, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Brooks Robinson

On 27 September 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Brooks Robinson, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:01, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red October 2023

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Happy Holiday!

Happy Chuseok! --WhisKY JX (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

Technical news

  • Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Women in Red - November 2023

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November Articles for creation backlog drive

Hello GorillaWarfare:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over 1000 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Election denial movement for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Election denial movement is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Election denial movement until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. rootsmusic (talk) 22:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

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readded Tamzin
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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For reverting the harassing sock. Can you delete the talk page of the other already blocked sock he created today? I don't like having my username on any of those sock attack talk pages. oknazevad (talk) 22:18, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yep, I missed that. Done. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:21, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit conflicts

Bizarrely, I had zero edit conflicts while editing Ellie Moon. And I was so focussed on going through the sources that I didn't even notice I had notifications. I'm so OCD. Thanks for checking in there, appreciate the effort. Valereee (talk) 19:49, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing, happy editing. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:51, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Two more likely socks of User:Wendypeter1981: AMCream and Talsh1991. Honestly I'm wondering if we should just EC Adult Adoption and Ellie Moon for a bit, this person is farming them. Valereee (talk) 12:46, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Semiprotection should be enough for those two accounts, given they're both new. I'd definitely put it at SPI, though. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
done. But I think I broke the template...me and templates, it's just a lost cause. Valereee (talk) 19:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think I fixed the template. Also left a note there for whoever picks up the SPI. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:10, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of oldest serving state leaders

Hello. At the List of oldest living state leaders page, we may be dealing with an IP/Mobile jumping editor. GoodDay (talk) 00:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it's already been handled at RfPP? GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 01:04, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

Don't want to revert your revert, just checking this was an accident? Cheers, Daniel (talk) 00:49, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oop, it was. I was aiming for this 🤦‍♀️ GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:51, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Easy, thanks for that. Daniel (talk) 00:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was reverting vandalism

Hi. I was reverting vandalism by 74.137.125.115. Please check the history of past revisions in Battle of Nablus. Thanks and sorry for the trouble.

Indeed, my revert was mistaken. Apologies for that. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:26, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Owen Jones

You reverted my edit on Owen Jones' page noting his declaration of his ADHD diagnosis, citing no source -- I'm confused why his own Twitter's not considered a reliable source there? WorthPoke2 (talk) 19:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@WorthPoke2: "In June 2023, Jones announced he had been diagnosed with ADHD" is adequately sourced and can be sourced to his Twitter as a neutral factual claim per WP:ABOUTSELF. "for which he received accusations of misogyny on Twitter" is not sourced, and would need a strong secondary WP:RS to warrant inclusion. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay -- wouldn't it be more appropriate for you to remove the part you thought unsourced rather than revert the edit? WorthPoke2 (talk) 19:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tesla Autopilot

Hi,

I see that Tesla Autopilot does not describe the Autopilot available in UK and Europe, which might be misleading. That might deserve a localization tag in the page?

Hopefully, I have found two appropriate sources which describe this autopilot feature. I understand that the added text was too long. Might be some words could have been removed? or some sentences?

The issue is that you removed the edit: →‎Full Self-Driving: == UK and Europe == Tags: Reverted Disambiguation links added

By removing it, those sources (URL) are no more available! So it is no more possible to update it keeping the text sourced and verifiable.

Might be native speakers will find the right words to describe it... but I am wondering how long it will take to see the feature described in Tesla Autopilot page! 77.193.104.36 (talk) 21:08, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See the message that I left on your talk page. It's not that the text was too long, it's that it was copied verbatim from other sources. The message here explains in more detail. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:18, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have plenty of time to read so long non-specific texts. You removed the text, I assume you should know why. The specific issue with one of the sources was related to a quote. As far as I know it is not forbidden to perform a quote, but I understand that the quote was too long.
The issue I described is the fact that sources have been lost.
Hopefully, I believe I found the solution by adding the Template:Globalize tag in the page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.104.36 (talk) 21:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Brief quotations are acceptable, but copying multiple paragraphs that could easily be paraphrased is not. See MOS:QUOTE. The sources added in the edit were:
GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
While I may understand your concern, I am not sure that paraphrasing might be acceptable. May paraphrasing be considered as plagiarism and plagiarism considered as counterfeiting? I am not a specialist of European, French and other national laws, but I assume it is possible French law/jurisprudence has its (own) view on such topic.
May such topic be a question of quantity?
Can one only single/unique way to proof there is no counterfeiting be to demonstrate that it is not possible that the author of the paraphrase knows the existence of the text he gives as reference?
How can be solved contradicting concerns?
Too much questions without answer.
So I just do what I am told to do. Wikipedia advertising just says edit, so I do; Wikipedia just says to paraphrase, so do I.
Thanks for keeping the links.
Tesla Autopilot edit done. Hope it does not contain paraphrased/copyright information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.104.36 (talk) 09:19, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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CAN U PLEASE CREATE WIKIPEDIA PAGE OF AN ACTOR NAMED NIRANJAN BS WHO HAVE DONE MOVIES AND TV SHOWS

Niranjan Bs Bhumika66 (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, but I see you've already started a draft page at Draft:NIRANJAN BS. You can keep working on it there. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 03:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I have started but it's not working well
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I will give the all information please Bhumika66 (talk) 05:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:55, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Considering Wikipedia is meant to be neutral, the recent addition to the article on the Great Mosque of Gaza is premature and lacks detail. We don’t yet have concrete details around the involvement of the mosque in the ongoing war, which is not mentioned. There should be a mention of the war, as there is mention of every other war in which the structure (originally a church) was destroyed, and it provides necessary context for a researcher’s understanding of this topic. Friendly Fix (talk) 15:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Friendly Fix: I would recommend suggesting your edits on the article talk page to achieve consensus. However, I will note that there is a mention of the war already in the article. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi GorillaWarfare. It might be worth trying to reduce this to temporary PC protection before the current protection expires. Wikipedia:Edit_filter/False_positives/Reports is very frequently used by IP address editors to report issues with edit filters since IP address editors tend to be singled out by filters. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That was the goal behind the short duration. I don't think PC will be adequate in this case. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 05:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This LTA is just going to target a different page; I don't see the point in protection. I understand the need to stop that sort of thing, of course, but this will not do that. Suffusion of Yellow alt 7 (talk) 06:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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At my previous appeal I was advised to draft my appeal which is at User:Crouch, Swale/Appeal and show it to at least 1 experienced user, as you commented on several of the previous discussions I'm wondering what you think of the draft and if you have any advice, thanks. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:36, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I am not GS and have not actually read your draft appeal. I will note I'm glad you're taking the recommendation previous arbcoms have offered you. Speaking only for myself, we have two complex matters before us at ARCA. I would encourage you @Crouch, Swale to consider waiting rather than filing as soon as you're eligible so that everyone can give this the proper consideration it deserves. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Barkeep49: I'm assuming you're referring to the GiantSnowman and Antisemitism in Poland requests at ARCA. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:55, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. Barkeep49 (talk) 10:11, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Barkeep49: Both the GiantSnowman and Antisemitism in Poland cases were closed earlier today. There is now a case about Beeblebrox. Do you think its a good idea to start my appeal? If yes do you have any suggestions about my appeal before I file it? Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:28, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the timing is fine. I have no substantive comments about your appeal because I haven't read it. Since none has been forthcoming from GW, I'd ecnourage you to see if there was someone else who would be willing to give it to you not because you have to but to increase the odds that you're successful. Perhaps leave a message for Worm That Turned and send him an email? He's mostly inactive but my experience is he checks his email every few days still. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:40, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Barkeep49: WTT has replied saying he's not on Arbcom any more. Regarding the instructions at Special:Diff/1133851301 (1) I have drafted a plan on what I'm planning to do and have not had any articles ending up deleted or draftified/CSD/PROD/AFD, (2) draft the appeal and show it to several experienced editors which I have done, part of that is this discussion, (3) I have considered the feedback I have been given and am asking for anymore here, (4) this appeal will if it follows the first 3 points remove the restrictions so I won't need to have any more motions. Do you have any more advice/suggestions before I file? Is it in the best interest for the project to remove my restrictions? Yes, despite the fact there have been concerns in the past my track record since 2018 has been good, is it in my best interest to have the restrictions removed? Yes, I think I have demonstrated that I'm unlikely to have any significant problems with my work here in 2024 even though that was different in 2010. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:50, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've also added a bit about my move restriction as well. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've offered the feedback I'm going to offer ahead of an actual appeal where I will substantively consider what you're saying. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can I get some advice on how to handle the talk page at the Babylon Bee?


It's a bit discouraging to have an admin come through and just wholesale take out large sections of text because he doesn't personally like some sources, even if they aren't deprecated anywhere.


But of course he is an admin so I'm worried any objection will result in me being punished or steamrolled.


How should I address this? It feels like he has a free pass on consensus and source standards and gets to veto any discussion he wants. Am I reading this right? It kinda seems like a long term start he has used on other pages as well.

Squatch347 (talk) 00:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Squatch347: I wouldn't worry regarding the admin part — per WP:INVOLVED, admins are not supposed to take administrative actions in relation to those they've disagreed with on editing matters. David Gerard is not going to block you or otherwise "punish" you for disagreeing with him.
Regarding the removals discussed and implemented by Aquillon and Gerard, I have to say they do seem reasonable to me. A shorter, high-quality article is often preferable to a longer one that relies on MREL or unreliable sources, and a lot of the claims that were removed were frankly pretty trivial. I don't think readers are going to suffer terribly for not knowing that Dillon has said he wanted to make "comedy that wasn't cheesy", for example — it's really just a trivial sentence. The actual changes to the content of the article were fairly minimal, and many of the removals were simply removing unreliable or questionably reliable sources that were supporting statements already cited to higher-quality sources, without making any changes to the article text.
If you think any of the sources that were removed should be considered reliable sources, you're certainly free to make that point, either on the article talk page or at an outside venue like WP:RSN. However, "it's not deprecated" is not a strong argument that a source is reliable, nor is "it's not listed at WP:RSP". Instead, you should make arguments based in WP:RS for how a source is a reliable source, seeking outside/uninvolved input from RSN if necessary. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:42, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, phew. I appreciate the guidance and advice. I'll take a fresh look at it and approach it again maybe without that concern. I'll also take your approach on defending sources in that manner. Do you know if there are any other essays on how to approach source evaluation from a wiki perspective? I ask because source evaluation is a large part of what I do and wiki seems to approach it from a very different framework than, say the Intel community, or Historians. I'm curious if there is additional guidance on the methodology for approach.
Thank you for this.
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WP:RS is the primary guideline, and there are links to some other resources at Wikipedia:Reliable sources#See also. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:22, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Molly! I see you reverted a vandalism introduced by a half-illiterate, infantile troll, user 167.94.114.171. He has tried it with three different articles connected to Israel/Palestine, wasting people's time. Here it is. Would you mind taking the necessary steps to have him blocked? Thank you, and keep up the good work! Arminden (talk) 16:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) An IP that hasn't edited in 12 days isn't worth blocking. Likely doesn't attach to the same person anymore. The saying about the horse and when to close the barn door applies. Courcelles (talk) 16:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks so much! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Molly, thank you for your inspiration to make my first edit! OrtusSolis (talk) 17:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, and thank you for all your contributions! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you! Awesome to hear you're coming across some new folks, I hope they're getting a very warm welcome. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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