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Edit war, Israeli/Jewish bias

Check out the page for Mateusz Morawiecki. There has been an edit war between a Pole and several editors who are Jewish/Isrseli. There was a part where a user decided for no reason to list the PM's comments talking about Jewish perpetrators of the Holocaust (which there obviously were) and listed this as somehow controversial when it isn't. When another user reverted it, the guy reverted it back and locked the page. The claim is from a Jewish perspective and whitewashes Jewish complicity by claiming that the Prime Ministers words were somehow shocking when in reality there is noting factually wrong with what he stated as there were Jewish groups who assisted the Nazis like Sonderkommando, Group 13, Zagiew, etc.. When the edit got reverted, the user decided to added Netanyahu's comments and response as if it actually has any meaning where it just reinforces a Jewish perspective attempting to deny they had any role. The user also reverted a claim where the PM Morwaiecki visited the grave of a group that assisted the Nazis when the only source there to back up his claim is from not even a legitimate source, YNET. No other site makes any mention of him doing such thing. Please help, the Jewish/Israeli bias is worrying. -2600:1001:B101:F291:4418:A4B2:CB42:3760 (talk) 17:01, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

I've completed a copyedit.

Please let me know of any concerns.

Thanks.

Nihil novi (talk) 05:04, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

November 2017

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Poles, you may be blocked from editing. -2600:1001:B115:C249:8AEB:C059:37F9:130F (talk) 19:21, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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Marie Curie's siblings and the point of user contributions

Hi, I saw that you had deleted my addition of sibling nicknames on the Marie Curie page, and wanted to explain why I put them back in. You had said their inclusion was "pointless and inaccurate," but in doing research for a book project, my daughter kept finding reference to the sister "Bronya." When looking at the Wikipedia page she noted that there was no Bronya, only Bronislawa, and this became fuel for her to rant about, "See, you can't trust Wikipedia!" My contention was that if something was missing or unclear in Wikipedia, we could help fix it. So we did further research, and came up with what I feel is a fairly credible source for the family nicknames. In addition, the mother and sister having the same name leads to potential confusion, so it seems there are several points to be made with their inclusion. I'm not sure how you determined that they were inaccurate, but I'm open to hearing more about that.

I'm a fairly new editor, though, and I appreciate your diligence and willingness to help me understand if I've done something inappropriate, and don't hesitate to let me know if there is a better way to go about some aspect of this. Footleg (talk) 19:23, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

The daughter's nickname was "Bronia", not "Bronya". The son's nickname was "Józio", not "Jozio".

The authors who include these nicknames are patronizing the Polish-language-ignorant. Would you refer to "Georgie Washington" or to "Tommy Jefferson"?

Nihil novi (talk) 04:44, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

I take your point about Georgie and Tommy, and I would certainly include myself among the "Polish-language-ignorant," but are you saying that the various sources that use "Bronya" or "Bronia" are not authoritative because they are patronizing? I guess I don't see the problem of including the nicknames if that's what they were called and if there is confusion out in the world. To your point, would you refer to William Clinton or James Carter?Footleg (talk) 15:19, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

What have your and your daughter's researches shown to have been Maria's family nickname? Nihil novi (talk) 07:05, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

The best source that we found (that I cited on the Marie Curie page, but am having trouble including here), lists her given name as, "Marja," and that she, "went by Manya, Manyusya, and Anciupeccio." Later it goes on to say that when she registered at the university in Paris, she put "Marie...(but)...everyone who knew her forever called her Manya." All of this makes me wonder if it is appropriate for the article to refer to her as "Maria" as much as it does in the "Early Years."Footleg (talk) 02:14, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I've corrected the spelling from the unaccountably russified "Bronya" to the authentic Polish Bronia.

Maria Skłodowska's given name is spelled Maria, not "Marja".

A diminutive for Maria is Mania, spelled with an "i", not a "y".

Maniusia is simply a diminutive of Mania. (Polish abounds in diminutives.)

Anciupecio [1] is a nonspecific pet name, something like "Snooky Ookums" [2].

The nickname for Maria's mother Bronisława would also likely have been Bronia.

The nickname for Maria's father Władysław would likely have been Władek.

Nihil novi (talk) 20:11, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...

peep in Polish personalities
...you were recipient no. 1125 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, dear Gerda!

It truly is precious to have one's efforts appreciated by colleagues.

One works for all readers of Wikipedia, but one especially welcomes constructive critics!

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Three years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda!

It's good to have you as a Wiki-colleague!

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Thank you, and four years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

... and five, and only now I saw a question in your archive: a summer hymn is a summer song which is also a [Christian) hymn. "Search for delight" is the topic, because sometimes it's not obvious. Alte Liebe. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the information, and for your goodwill !

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Bay Area WikiSalon series kickoff, April 27

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Panel discussion at a recent Wikipedia & Journalism event.

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts in the San Francisco Bay Area will gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. We have two brief presentations lined up for our kickoff event in downtown San Francisco:

• The Nueva Upper School recently hosted the first ever high school Wikipedia edit-a-thon. We will hear what interests them about Wikipedia, what they have learned so far, and what they hope to achieve.
• Photojournalist Kris Schreier Lyseggen, author of The Women of San Quentin: The Soul Murder of Transgender Women in Male Prisons, will tell us about her work and how she researched the topic.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. We will have beverages and light snacks.

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For further details, see here: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, April 2016

We hope to see you -- and until then, happy editing! - Pete, Ben & Wayne

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Thank you for starting a page on my ancestor - Tadeusz Schaetzel de Merxhausen

It's incredible to be able to find such information when researching one's genealogy. I would like to correct his name to include 'de Merxhausen' which is his full name, that I believe references his noble house.

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Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29

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The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have:

• A brief report on Pride edit-a-thon recently held at the San Francisco Publice Library, coordinated by Merrilee:

  What topics might we cover in a follow up?

  Find out more about resources your public library provides to help with editing (hint, it's more than just books!)

  Special announcement (secret for now but come and find out more!)

• Join in on an in person Wikidojo!

  Are you curious how your peers approach writing a Wikipedia article? This exercise, pioneered by Wikipedians Nikola Kalchev and Vassia Atanassova in 2015 and conducted in many places around the world, will help us all - from first-time wiki users to veteran Wikipedians - share ideas, while building an article together. If you have ideas (relating to Bay Area history, ideally) about a new article we could build (stubs and short existing articles are fine), please submit them ahead of time to coordinator Pete Forsyth. (User talk page or email is fine.)

  Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!

Please note: You must register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.

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REMINDER/invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, June 29 at 6 p.m.

Please join us in downtown San Francisco tonight!

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• Light snacks, and time to mingle
• A brief report on the Pride edit-a-thon recently held at the San Francisco Public Library, that was coordinated by Wiki editor Merrilee
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• Join in on a brief in person Wikidojo!
• Announcements and impromptu topics are welcome, too!

Please register at: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cjLRrSTlEkGOPTQ-h6A0WvSFI4ZmIUl6jEHp_RYas-E/viewform and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict.

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Late breaking invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, July 27 (Wednesday) - change of venue - tonight

Please join us in the Mission at Noisebridge (one time change of venue)!

We hope you can join us today, Wednesday, from 6 p.m. on, at our July Bay Area WikiSalon. This month only, we are going to be at Noisebridge, a hackerspace/makerspace 1.5 blocks from the 16th & Mission BART station (see the link for directions). Some of us will be working on the Wikipedia article on basic income. All info here. Some good news - we do not have to be as strict about advance RSVP at Noisebridge, so bring spontaneous guests! (Registering ahead of time is still helpful, as always, as it will help us plan ahead.)

Come and hang out, have some light snacks. Wi-Fi is available, so please bring your editing device if you plan to edit.

Also, Pete just published a writeup of the Wikidojo exercise we did last month. Your comments welcome, if he missed anything! http://wikistrategies.net/ghost-town-royals-wikidojo

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas. Mark you calendars now.

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Clan of Ostoja

Thank You for Your input and contribution on subject. However, before changing anthing, I would appreciate if You consult this on "Talk" page. Polish Clans are a bit different but still, they are concidered as Clans. Polish Clans are not just "heraldic families" or families that use same CoA. Those clans have specific identity that do back to XII century or much earlier before any CoA have been used. Primary, "Ostoja" was used as a battle Cry for military unit so it have nothing to do with heraldry. Also, note definition "Clan" on Wiki and note about Poland and Clan, futhermore in Polish Wiki definition "Klan" - Klan (celt. clan) – ród spokrewnionych lub spowinowaconych ze sobą osób lub też związek osób wspierających się i mających wspólne interesy. Therefore, I kindly ask You to undo renaming the art. and change back as it was before. Correct art. name should be "Clan of Ostoja" and nothing more. Thank You! camdan (talk) 13:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I invite You to discussion about question raised on Wikipedia:WikiProject Heraldry camdan (talk) 14:40, 10 August 2016 (CEST)

Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, August 31

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Hi folks,

We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We make sure to allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks. We will also have a brief presentation for your education and possible enjoyment:

• Former EFF intern Marta Belcher will discuss crowdsourcing her Stanford Law School graduation speech using a wiki. The "WikiSpeech" was the subject of prominent national media attention in 2015, and more than half of her classmates contributed to writing and editing the commencement address via a wiki.

Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on speakers or wiki-related activities.

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Tonight: Live and archived links for Bay Area WikiSalon

Bay Area WikiSalon, Wednesday, August 31:

If you cannot join us in person tonight, we are streaming (and later archiving) the presentation by former EFF intern Marta Belcher. We expect her to be live starting between 6:30 or 6:45 p.m. PDT and talking and taking questions for about 30 minutes thereafter.

Here is the YouTube stream link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8V79s2-og
Here is the link to join the Hangout on Air: https://hangouts.google.com/call/ezrol7dafjfwxfh2ilpkjyxoaue

You can search for it on the Commons and YouTube later too.

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Invitation to the Bay Area WikiSalon series, Wednesday, September 28

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Hi folks,

We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Wikipedia and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We will have no formal agenda to allow people to freely share ideas and perhaps learn about Wikipedia through hands-on editing. Co-organizer Ben Creasy will be looking at election-related articles to enhance the information available in the upcoming November elections.

Co-organizer Stephen LaPorte has suggested doing an upload-a-thon for Wiki Loves Monuments. Niki, the California coordinator for WLM will be in attendance. WLM is an annual event and the official dealine is Friday the 30th for submissions to count towards awards.

Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, or a stool and do your own thing.

Please note: You should register here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. The building policy is strict on the I.D. part. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in! Feel free to stop by even if only to say a quick hello, but you might have to give us a last minute call if you forget to RSVP. Also, don't be shy about hitting us up if you have thoughts on future speakers or wiki-related activities.

For further details, please see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, September 2016. Mark your calendars now for the 3rd Wednesday in October, the 26th, when we will have a brief presentation.

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You are invited to a Wednesday evening event in SF

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi folks,

Please copy and share this on other talk pages. We would like to invite you to this month's Bay Area WikiSalon. The last Wednesday evening of every month, Wikipedia and Wikimedia enthusiasts gather at the Wikimedia Foundation lounge to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We will have no meaty agenda this month, but we will allow a brief period for:

• Open mic for anybody who attended WikiConference North America 2016 in San Diego last week and wants to share their takeaway
• Question & answer
• Open mic for announcements
• Maybe a focus on some topical election article editing with Ben?

Or, you can grab a couch, a booth, a stool or counter and do your own thing.

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For further details, please see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, October 2016.

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PS: Mark your calendars ahead now for the 3rd Wednesday in November, the 30th (the week after Thanksgiving), at 6 p.m. when our WikiSalon will host a super awesome top secret mystery guest mingling in our midst. We will announce specifics at the upcoming WikiSalon.

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Everybody is invited to the November 30 Bay Area WikiSalon

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

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Bay Area WikiSalon series: Everybody is invited this Wednesday evening at 6

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

The last Wednesday evening of every month, wiki and open-source enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

Before and after the brief presentation we allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages and light snacks.

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In addition, this month we will have:

• a brief presentation from User:Cullen328 (Jim Heaphy) about the Wikipedia Teahouse
• spontaneous lightning talks from the floor
• community announcements from the floor

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For details and to RSVP see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, December 2016

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P.S. Any help spreading the word through social media or other avenues is most welcome! We plan to announce this on various sites and invite various groups; if you would like to join in, check our meta planning page, and please note any announcements you are sending out: meta:Monthly WikiSalon in San Francisco#Announcements and promotion

Please feel free to add to, refine, reorganize or edit the above linked page: it is a wiki!

We need more helpers and organizers, so if you see a need, please jump in, or talk to us about it! You can add your username to the meta page where appropriate, or create a new role!

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Reminder invitation to the December Bay Area WikiSalon

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Hi, everybody.

We are excited to remind you of the ninth in the Bay Area WikiSalon series that is coming up this Wednesday evening at 6 p.m.

• Details (RSVP suggested) here (RSVP helps us know how much food and drink to bring in)

What is a WikiSalon? A monthly safe and inclusive meatspace event conducted in organized chaos and we all clean up the mess afterwards. Livestream links for the presentation are available during presentation months, and will be forthcoming for those of you that cannot attend. December is a presentation month.

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Archived link for December Bay Area WikiSalon

Hi, y'all. In case you missed it and want to watch the archive reel; the topic was The Wikipedia Teahouse and the presenter was well respected Wikimedian Jim Heaphy [[User:Cullen328]]

• Archive link (also includes intro, announcements, and a lightning talk)

• Details about Bay Area WikiSalon for December here

The full title of Jim's presentation was: Welcoming and Helping New Editors: A Month at the Wikipedia Teahouse: an overview of the Teahouse and an analysis of over 300 Teahouse conversations during the month of August, 2016

Jim gave a longer version of this presentation in October at WikiConference North America 2016 in San Diego, California.

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PS: Mark your calendars now for Sunday, January 15 at 2 p.m. which will be Wikipedia's 16th Birthday party hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon! Details to follow soon. If you want to help plan it, get in touch with us ASAP!

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Yo Ho Ho

Doug Weller talk is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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Happy New Year, Nihil novi!

Happy New Year!

Nihil novi,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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You are invited to a birthday bash to Celebrate Wikipedia's 16th Birthday!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Wikipedia Day 16 SF is a fun Birthday bash and edit-a-thon on Sunday, January 15, 2017, hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon at the Wikimedia Foundation's Chip Deubner Lounge in the South of Market Street business district.

For details and to RSVP, please see: Wikipedia:Meetup/SF/Wikipedia Day 2017

The San Francisco gathering is one of a number of Wikipedia Day celebrations worldwide.

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PS: We need volunteers to help make this a fun and worthwhile event. Please add your name to the Project page, and what you can offer. It is a wiki, so please make direct edits to the page.

Bay Area WikiSalon usually meets the last Wednesday evening of every month as an inclusive and safe place to collaborate, mingle, munch and learn about new projects and ideas.

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Reminder invitation to the Wikipedia Day 16 birthday bash & edit-a-thon

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!

Wikipedia Day 16 SF is a fun Birthday bash and edit-a-thon on Sunday, January 15, 2017, hosted by Bay Area WikiSalon at the Wikimedia Foundation's Chip Deubner Lounge in the South of Market Street business district and everybody is invited!

Details and RSVP here

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PS: We still need more volunteers to help make this a fun and worthwhile event. Please add what you can offer and your name to the Project page or Talk about it. It is a wiki, so please make direct edits to the Project page. The event is already growing due to volunteers that have stepped up so far.

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This is second time Your change or rename art. without any notice or discussion which is definitely not a custom here on Wikipedia, more like breaking obviouse rules and showing lack of basic respect for other people. Any such change in the future where you dont communicate or ask, will be reported, changes reverted. I suggest that You read Wikipedia rules again in section how to behave becouse what you do is far from acceptable! camdan (talk) 14:38, 20 February 2017 (CEST)

Your edits on the art. are much appreciated, include several good changes and suggestions. Thank You! camdan (talk) 20:36, 27 February 2017 (CEST)

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Changes to Nicolaus Copernicus

Hi Nihil novi, I see you have reverted some recent changes to Nicolaus Copernicus:

1. I don't have a problem with you re-adding the category "Category:People of the Polish–Teutonic War (1519–21)" (which I didn't remove) but...
2. Why re-add the unsupported "religion" parameter to the Infobox scientist? If you have that parameter you will get a message:
    "Warning: Page using Template:Infobox scientist with unknown parameter "religion" (this message is shown only in preview).".
3. Why remove "Johannes Kepler" as a value for the "influenced =" parameter in the same Infobox? Reading the Kepler article will show that Copernicus was definitely an influence.
4. Why remove references to 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica? There are several statements in the Copernicus article which do not have any references e.g. "In 1489 Watzenrode was elected Bishop of Warmia (Ermeland, Ermland)..." and "He met the famous astronomer Domenico Maria Novara da Ferrara..." to which I added a reference. The EB1911 is a reliable source.

Regards, DivermanAU (talk) 05:28, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing the infobox problem to my attention. I hadn't quite understood it.

I've supplied sources, for the two items you specify above, which are six decades more recent than the 1911 E.B.

Thanks for your interest in the subject matter!

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Sorry, I am new to wikipedia editing. Aside from reverting the edit and debating the issue in the article talk, what can be done to keep Wikipedia from becoming a breeding ground for the gossip of allegations? Mixelpix (talk) 01:49, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

News reports of allegations or accusations are not proof of guilt. I would prefer to see proper adjudications of concerns about misbehaviors, rather than unadjudicated allegations or accusations.

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We'll see how long it stays out. It took a while for the removal of a similar one from Middle Ages to stick. Ealdgyth - Talk 00:28, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

This one was a rather ungainly table and didn't seem to add anything to the article. Thanks! Nihil novi (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

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History of the World

Why did you undo my July 4 edit?UnvoicedConsonant (talk) 04:00, 5 July 2017 (UTC) §

Thanks for asking.

Short answer: Your edits added nothing useful.

More specifically:

No need to specify "fresh" water, as opposed to brackish water or salt water. That is understood without explicit statement.

Saying that "Humanity's history starts with its prehistory", as you do, is illogical: Prehistory clearly precedes history; it doesn't start history.

Again, that "The history of the world (or world history) describes the history of all humanity", goes without saying, and so there is no need to say it, which you do.

Historic records include records from all the fields that you specify (archaeology, anthropology, genetics, linguistics), as well as a few thousand other fields and subfields of scholarship. Therefore, again, no need to select the 4 that you happen to specify.

Please consider contributing germane information to this and other Wikipedia articles.

Nihil novi (talk) 05:28, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

My response:

1) Specification of “fresh” water adds precision and accuracy, so is valuable. You personally may be highly attuned to water quality issues, but many readers – especially younger readers – are oblivious.

2) “History” in this article means the aggregate of past events involving humanity. This aggregate includes everything human. Nothing human precedes it. Prehistory, despite the name, does not precede human history. It is part of human history – the earliest part. This is consistent with Wikipedia’s Prehistory article.

3) I’ll concede your point regarding the redundancy of “all humanity,” but the opening sentence has several problems, and needs work:

a. “World History” should not be listed as a synonym for “History of the World,” because, on Wikipedia, World History has a different meaning.

b. The History of the World is the aggregate of past events involving humanity. By themselves, the events do not “describe” anything. Authors describe the events, but that is the province of History, not History of the World.

c. Similarly, the events are not “based on” archaeology or other disciplines. The events can be studied by these disciplines, but are not “based on” them.

d. Archaeology is not the only discipline associated with historical research. My edit said “many” disciplines, and mentioned a few specific ones. I chose anthropology, genetics, and linguistics because they are mentioned later in the article. I think it is valuable in the lede to give readers – especially readers new to the subject – a sense of the breadth of knowledge that contributes to the understanding of our past.

4) “Historic records” (or “written records”) in this context refers to primary sources written around the time being studied, not to writings by later authors.

5) Wikipedia edits are not only for adding “germane information,” but also for improvements to form, style, and readability. Many of your own edits fall into this latter category.

UnvoicedConsonant (talk) 00:12, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your response.

I see your rationale, and I've amended the text to take account of your edits and subsequent suggestions.

Nihil novi (talk) 07:22, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. UnvoicedConsonant (talk) 04:51, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions! Nihil novi (talk) 06:03, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hi. Is it possible to block the user which is vandalizing the articles Alfred Tarski and Leonid Hurwicz, and also refuses to discuss them. I already did it, but I need some support on the administrator attention page. Best Regards. Oliszydlowski, 20:42, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

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Historic recurrence

Nihil novi, you ask me to repost deleted quotations with references added. Happy to do so but I may need reminding who said them, and what they said.

Would have been much easier task if Omnipaedia had given me time to do this, instead of just deleting them out of hand. Crawiki (talk) 08:13, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is pretty adamant about sources having to be given. (Otherwise, contributors could write whatever they liked.)

I have had new articles of mine tagged for deletion the same day I started them. I've generally managed to rescue them, and they flourish to this day, years later! Don't get discouraged: you are contributing to the enlightenment of all mankind.

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Restored quotations on historic recurrence; how did I come by them? Through extensive reading during long spells of unemployment. 'If life hands you a lemon, make lemonade' - Dale Carnegie, How to win friends and influence people — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crawiki (talk • contribs) 17:34, 12 September 2017 (UTC) Re Hoffer, thanks for advice. Living and learning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crawiki (talk • contribs) 17:42, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

You've clearly made good use of your time!

(New paragraphs need to start at the margin, as I do it, to avoid the shaded background.)

Nihil novi (talk) 17:56, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

I also wrote a book with what I thought an original theory on historic recurrence. As yet unpublished. Then I heard about, and read, Ibn Khaldun, and realised he'd arrived at similar conclusions 640 years earlier. Brief summary is at www.terror-rhythm.blogspot.com if you're interested to know more. Even briefer summary at my first Wikipedia page, 'political midlife crisis', which I think is still awaiting review and approval.

Was your 6 September 2017 "Historic recurrence" contribution, listing 20-year intervals for warlike episodes, based on your own observations, or on a published source? (The absence of the latter would, prima facie, explain its having been deleted. On Wikipedia, "original research" is the original sin!)

A 20-year interval between wars makes sense. It takes about that long to bring up a new gullible generation that, in some cases, is actually enthusiastic about experiencing war: how else can one indulge in murder, mayhem, pillage, and rape—and be awarded medals for it?

If you are not already an academically certified historian, and if you can afford the expenses, you might consider history as an academic career. Then, when you publish, you can pseudonymously enter your ideas into Wikipedia!

Nihil novi (talk) 18:35, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

I've read your "www.terror-rhythm.blogspot.com" (I couldn't find 'political midlife crisis' on Wikipedia). I think that, like Ibn Khaldun and commentators on historic cycles since antiquity, you've given much thought to these phenomena; and you are seeing deep below the superficial contemporary layer that nearly everyone dwells in. Something that has struck me, in reading history, is that all countries, including currently small ones, seem to go through similar cycles of expansion, as far as they can, before they get clobbered over the head and lose some of their megalomania. Big empires age till they explode like a supernova; small empires collapse in on themselves as white dwarves. There is much more, at every level of observation and analogy, that could be said of these historic processes... The predictability of the processes is terrifying, and it is hard to close one's eyes to them because they ineluctably threaten each and every one of us.

Nihil novi (talk) 10:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

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Disappointed by your recent comments. As per WP: No Personal Attacks, I'm responding here rather than on the article talk page, where your adverse comments have been deleted. All the best, Crawiki (talk)`

I have explained in a couple of venues that my comments were not sarcasm but, on the contrary, very high commendation. Nihil novi (talk) 17:18, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Greetings. Thank you for your patient tweaks to the article, Poles in the United Kingdom which I have been trying to improve to lift it into a good article. Alas, I am most disappointed with the removal of the latest section on food. I accept that I may not be sufficiently encyclopedic yet, but can one person act repeatedly as final arbiter? Best wishes to you. --80.168.172.177 (talk) 13:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for the improvements you've made to the article, especially in the past week. I didn't realize we were both editing the article at the same time a little while ago. I hope I didn't create any edit conflicts for you. If I did, I apologize. Thanks again. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:13, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

I haven't noticed any conflicts so far.

Thank you for your thoughtful edits.

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Re: Seweryn Obst. I don't do edit wars, but I'm curious. Why do you think the images should be that small? Yes, I know you can click on them and see them full screen, but....WQUlrich (talk) 20:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

On the earlier settings before I adjusted them, the images showed as gigantic on the page.

This seems to be a systemic problem: image size apparently depends on individual computer settings.

I likewise like to see images without having to click on them; but maybe neutral, non-"px" settings are a solution, after all—or just provide the "px's" and let the images be too small or too large?

Best, Nihil novi (talk) 23:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes, just doing "thumb" and letting the computer select the size has really mixed results. WQUlrich (talk) 19:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

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Polish resistance fighter Jan Karski was one of the originators of the phrase "Polish death camp". See the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zekelayla (talk • contribs) 05:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

When Jan Karski used the expression "Polish death camps", everyone understood that these were German camps located in Poland. He and other early users of the expression did not have anything to apologize for. Present-day users (evidently including you) do.

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Hi Nihil, I replied already on the related talk page but I think this is critical, so I will connect with you directly. Please recognize that almost all collaborating Jews of the time, as well as their victims, were Polish nationals. Most Jewish collaborators were well integrated into the Polish society. The State of Israel didn't exist at the time. These are crucial points to realize and remember in light of the latest Polish-Israeli dispute. I'm sure you know what this turmoil is all about, right? I'm certain you do. These Jews, their dirty laundry, their Jewish or Polish victims and everything else associated with these people, and I mean everything, belongs to Poland. Therefore Jewish collaboration should reside within Poland's section. GizzyCatBella (talk) 16:09, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, I've see your edits and must say I'm impressed. You are doing a good job editing articles regarding Poland's good name. I'm not as experienced in Wikipedia as you are so may I ask you for some help?

There was a massacre during World War II known as the Naliboki massacre where's Soviet and Jewish partisans aided in the killing of Poles. The page itself mentions the Jewish collaborators and it is sourced from a Holocaust memorial site as well as an additional source. Several users keep trying to edit war and undo the mention of Jewish perpetrators such as יניב הורון or Beyond My Ken. Can you help report them somehow? I don't know the mechanics of how things here work. I have warned them on their talk pages yet despite this they continue to vandalize the article. Chester Leszek (talk) 17:31, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for getting in touch.

When I run into a quandary at Wikipedia, I often turn to: User talk:Piotrus. He knows how to navigate Wikipedia procedures, and is generally very helpful. I suggest you send him a copy of the information about what is happening at "Naliboki massacre". Feel free to tell him I referred you.

I'll put "Naliboki massacre" on my radar too.

Welcome to Wikipedia!

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Thank you, I left a message on his page. -Chester Leszek (talk) Chester Leszek (talk) 18:42, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

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Done. Thank you! Nihil novi (talk) 09:31, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

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Collaboration with the Axis Powers - Poland

Sorry, I'm not sure how you can argue for your changes to the original text, and say they are "better English"... honestly, some of the changes you made come across as vandalism, for example:

"Shortly after the completed German invasion of Poland" instead of "Shortly after the German invasion of Poland" — what is the point of adding the word "completed"?? It's redundant because the word "after" also implies the END of the invasion.

"the Germans ordered pre-war low-level Polish functionaries and the Polish police (the "Blue Police"), under penalty of death, to get back to work, now for the occupying Germans" — how many times are you going to use the word "Germans" in just one sentence? Also, how about "mobilization" instead of "to get back to work" and what's the point of having the word "now"... sounds redundant because the IMMEDIACY of the action is also implied in the word "ordered".

Your changes are not grammatically or linguistically correct, these are basic errors that an English speaker is taught to avoid in grade school. --E-960 (talk) 00:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

"Invasion" can be understood as the beginning of an invasion; the Germans proceeded with various measures, such as activating the Polish police under their supervision, after their invasion had been completed. I think that, if you carefully read the text that you reintroduced, you will readily find a number of composition errors in it. Thanks. Nihil novi (talk) 04:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

NE vs. SE

re this edit. My understanding this is east of Kraków in the southeast. Perhaos you are confused by the map in Dąbrowa County which shows the county location within Lesser Poland Voivodeship and not the map of entire Poland?Icewhiz (talk) 21:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I've corrected this in the "Jan Grabowski" article. Nihil novi (talk) 21:38, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hi

Can you please help me in resolving the issue with the current discussion on Joseph Conrad. I believe we are dealing here with personal opinion being placed in article without any proper discussion among other user or vote. Best Regards. Oliszydlowski, 11:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Grabowski

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ENLYKIUXEQ That's his father, I came across Żebrowski talking about his father as well.GizzyCatBella (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC) https://www.tygodnikpowszechny.pl/polskie-drogi-135102 His father is notable actually. GizzyCatBella (talk) 13:23, 4 May 2018 (UTC) Żebrowski might need an English lg. page by the way.GizzyCatBella (talk) 14:14, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Gontarczyk

I made a rough translation on Piotr Gontarczyk's page from Polish Wikipedia, it could probably could use some polishing up, if you are willing to assist. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 21:21, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Right now I have only intermittent Internet connection. I'll take a closer look at the article as soon as I can. Thanks.

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Just wondering why you removed Lulu (singer) from the gallery. She is certainly a modern archetypal "Mononymous person". —2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 21:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry. She was collateral damage to a large revert of unneeded changes to the article. Nihil novi (talk) 00:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

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Please what is happening in the article "History of the Jews in Poland" and the "Lwow pogrom (1918)". There is an concerted attack going on.Tatzref (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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I finished expanding this for a GAN. If you have time to give it a read through and do some c/e, it would be much appreciated :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 21:13, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Just making sure that you were not confused by the IP post about a different article :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I hope to review "Battle of Westerplatte" at the earliest.

By the way, any thoughts about the other article, which I've copyedited?

Nihil novi (talk) 07:40, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I restored some content, in more neutral form (the incident is likely notable, but was given too much weight), and edited some related articles which needed updating. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:28, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I've completed my copyedit of "Battle of Westerplatte". I deleted some details that seemed superfluous or that I found incomprehensible; and I had to make guesses in some other places as to what was meant. So the article, as edited, will require careful review. I'll be glad to consult, if that is desired.

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Better way to link Polish Wikipedia articles

Thank you for the expansion. Please see the template code I used here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:59, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the sample.

I find it difficult to follow procedures I don't understand. In this case, I don't understand how it's done (e.g., what is "ill"?) And I don't understand how this linking procedure is better than what I have already mastered and used.

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(watching:) ill means inter language link. It has several advantages: you see right away that where you will link is not English. You can create the English article by clicking on the red link. If name in Polish and English is the same, it's easy. If not, it's still worth the effort. See {{ill}}. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. It goes a long way to clarifying the situation for me. I may try this procedure sometime.

Good to hear from you!

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Look-alike

Hello,
I notice your revert of my edit here and invite you to reconsider. Those entries provide nothing of interest to the reader, as they are all already mentioned in the "Literature" section above. They therefore tell us nothing beyond that those particular works have also been made into films. Of course, both a work of literature and its film adaptation may be listed, but only if the film importantly elaborates on its source material, which does not seem to be the case with any of the entries here. You may not agree with my content removal, but surely removing information which is effectively stated twice is at least not "incomprehensible".

Thank you. Citizen Canine (talk) 11:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

My apologies, if you found my edit-summary wording hurtful. Your "Film"-section deletions would have frustrated readers interested in films that featured look-alikes. That was why I found those deletions difficult to understand. I hope you understand my motivation in restoring them.

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Please unrevert my edit on this article that you reverted

I understand the Polish need to propagandize against USSR/Russia at every opportunity, but in an article on a famous animal? I quote,

"In the spring of 1942 the newly formed Anders' Army left the Soviet Union for Iran, accompanied by thousands of Polish civilians who had been deported to the Gulag camps following the Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939"

This is provable baloney, as there were never any Soviet Gulag camps is Iran and neither there is a point for Polish civilians released from such to participate in invasion of Iran for some reason other than being an Anders' Army volunteer, i.e. no longer a civilian. The article on the more relevant to the topic (than the invasion of Poland) is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

Explains that the town of Hamadan where Wojtek was found, was taken over by Soviet "armored spearhead" advancing some 150 km in one day. This suggests that the only Poles who were there came in riding tanks.

Muchandr (talk) 07:54, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

You have a complete muddle. Anders' Polish army was formed in the Soviet Union after Hitler attacked the Soviet Union in June 1941, and was evacuated from the Soviet Union, via Iran to the Middle East, to reinforce British forces there. Evacuated together with Anders' army were thousands of Polish civilians who had been deported from Poland to the Soviet Union after the Soviet invasion of eastern Poland that began on 17 September 1939.

Anders' army did not "invade" Iran, much less together with Soviet forces. Please read up on the history.

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Now corrected. Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 10:16, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Jan Grabowski (historian)

Would you please correct obvious errors? My English is too bad to rewrite the page.Xx236 (talk) 09:20, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Done ("Dalej jest noc" section).

Please let me know of any errors I may have inadvertently introduced.

Thanks.

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Westplaining

It's over my level, but such term becomes popular.Xx236 (talk) 08:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Good job! Please see my comments on the "Westplaining" talk page.

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Literary experiment

I think you'll enjoy knowing about this: [3]/[4]/[5]. Jacek Dukaj is one of my favorite writers, btw. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the links, Piotrus!

Jacek Dukaj appears to have followed a couple of approaches alternative to translation stricto sensu (he himself calls his Polish rendering of Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness a "Polonization" rather than a "translation"): his appears to be 1. an "adapted translation"; 2. a "modern translation" (a rendering into present-day language). Which is well and good (in all the arts, people have been adapting entire works of predecessors, or at least stealing motifs from them), so long as he in fact does not claim that his version is actually a "translation".

If my sense of the Polish language is accurate, Conrad's niece Aniela Zagórska was probably right in rendering the title "Heart of Darkness" paraphrastically as "Jądro ciemności" rather than metaphrastically ("literally") as "Serce ciemności". Conrad uses "heart" here in a geographical sense (the Congo lying roughly in the "heart" of Africa) as well as in a sense that is, I think, approximated by the Polish "sedno", as in "sedno sprawy" ("the heart of the matter").

Dukaj would like, as much as possible, to do away with words, to get at direct experience. This is attempted by films; but what film cannot do, generally, is present abstractions, which are a forte of written language.

On a different subject: I have a mnemonic for you: "though" ("choć") vs. "through" ("przez").

I trust you are picking up some of the local language and culture: an invaluable experience, as Poland was for me! This kind of exposure transforms a person into an inter-cultural with improved binocular vision—as it did Conrad.

Thanks again.

Best, Nihil novi (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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Conrad

Hi, can you please express support towards my message to User talk:Piznajko concerning his edits on Joseph Conrad. Regards. Oliszydlowski, 13:23, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Done.

Many thanks!

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Nice to hear from you, Piotrus ! Thanks for looking into our block.

The "IP range block" sounds something like what the Wikipedia notice said (I think they spoke of URL, whatever that is). We were on a mini-vacation, using local facilities to connect through, when we were blocked. I really couldn't understand the instructions for getting unblocked, but finally was... Until we were blocked again. Now we're home, and we are no longer blocked.

How are things at your end?

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Dalej jest noc

Controversial removal.Xx236 (talk) 09:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

On 17 May 2019 I restored an abridged version of Jacek Proszyk's text to the "Dalej jest noc" article.

Thank you.

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Dear Nihil Novi, Would you be so kind to provide translations of some Polish quotes here [7], as your English is much better than mine?--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 18:06, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Done. I hope that was what you had in mind. Please let me know of any errors or questions. Nihil novi (talk) 14:59, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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Ambiguisty corrected. Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 17:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Greetings, Nihil Novi! Thank you so much for reading my mind and reviewing my tired labours on Aftanazy, with the dog barking into my left ear: pleading for a walk! Po Mieczu (talk) 20:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

My pleasure. Thank you for your tireless editing efforts!

I believe some family members visited Morszyn.

Nihil novi (talk) 08:51, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Incidentally, Morshyn needs a language copyedit, badly... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:25, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

re: Could you please advise?

As I don't really use those lists (at the bottom of the edit window?) I am not aware of tools/etc. but I'd advise you to copy your question to WP:VPT. Hopefully someone there will be better able to answer it (also, check preferences->gadgets, sometimes there are some handy tools/etc.). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:23, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

QUESTION to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical):

Could we prevent constant switching between edit-window lists?

When editing, using both an alphabet list (e.g., Latin, Greek, or Cyrillic) and the "insert" list (long and short hyphens, etc.) at the bottom of the edit window, I am annoyed at having to switch back and forth between the two lists. Could the "insert" list (or at least its two hyphen variants) be included as an integral part of every alphabet list?

Thank you.

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Disambiguated. Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 19:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Revert

Hi Nihil Novi, just wanted to also raise one other issue with Grabovski's figures, taken directly from his book on pages 2-3 [8]. Grabowski writes, "Given the numbers above one can assume that the number of victims of the Judenjagd could reach 200,000." This shows just how speculative these numbers are using words such as "assume" and "could reach", yet some try to use these very questionable numbers as if they a fact, but Grabowski's own words show it is not so, never mind other issues raised about his work. --E-960 (talk) 09:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Has this information been entered into articles containing the "200,000 Jewish victims of Poles" disinformation?

Nihil novi (talk) 10:38, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

I've added your note to the "Talk:The Holocaust in Poland" discussion, ""x" times "y" makes 200,000: or, Jan Grabowski as scholar".

Nihil novi (talk) 11:02, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Translation request

Hi NN, would you be able to translate this? "Rozpoczęło się polowanie na Żydów i było ono niestety niezwykle skuteczne. Niewielu uciekinierom udało się przeżyć. Grabowski naliczył 38 Żydów, którym udało się przetrwaćokupację, ukrywając się na terenie powiatu Dąbrowa Tarnowska. Według innych danych było ich około 150. Grabowski pisze jednak, iż liczba podawana przez „dąbrowskiego amatora historyka” jest zawyżona, i krytykuje brak jakichkolwiek archiwalnych podstaw do formułowania takich danych. (Judenjagd, s. 53–55).Nie jest wykluczone, że są one rzeczywiście zawyżone. Natomiast pewne jest, że po-dawana przez Grabowskiego liczba 38 ocalałych Żydów na terenie powiatu jest znacznie zaniżona. A wystarczyłoby, żeby Autor uwzględnił już publikowane źródła, aby tę liczbę skorygować. Np. Feliks Świerczek w Gorzycach ukrywał nie tylko „Fajgę (Franciszka Krystal” jak pisze Grabowski (Judenjagd, s. 147), lecz również jej brata, który także przeżył wojnę. Właściwe nazwisko Franciszki Kryształ, jak się legitymowała w okresie okupacji, brzmiało Feiga Birken. Również jedna z jej kuzynek przeżyła w ukryciu w pobliżu Dąbrowy Tarnowskiej, a po wojnie wyszła za mąż za swojego opiekuna i przeszła na katolicyzm9.Z kolei w Oleśnie przechowywano kilkunastoletnią dziewczynkę o imieniu Hajka, która przeżyła niemiecką okupację10. Podobnych przypadków uratowanych Żydów pominiętych przez Grabowskiego jest dużo więcej11. Oznacza to, że także ratujących było więcej, a liczby podawane przez „dąbrowskiego amatora historyka” zapewne są bliższe prawdy niż te ustalone przez Grabowskiego na podstawie, jak sam twierdzi (Judenjagd, s. 148), „dostępnej nam dokumentacji archiwalnej" --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 20:57, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Westsplaining

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not here but maybe there

Hi, 2300 bytes is not a "brief" annotation as suggested by MOS for WP:Further reading so I reverted. In addition, the article on the subject is Global warming. Compare the italics at the top of both articles. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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The link appears to be correct: Ciepielów, Masovian Voivodeship.

Thank you.

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Editing in Marie curie

After checked in lot of source she is the first person got nobel prize in two differnt fields Another person is Linus Pauling and she is the only women achieved. Again don't do the wrongs Needforname (talk) 03:32, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

"She was the first woman to win a Nobel Prize, is the only woman to win the Nobel prize twice, and is the only person to win the Nobel Prize in two different SCIENTIFIC fields."

PEACE (the field of Linus Pauling's second Nobel Prize) is NOT a SCIENTIFIC field.

Please ask someone with a better understanding of English than you possess, to explain this to you.

Thanks.

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Battle of Hel

I am thinking of nominating this short article for WP:GAN. Do you think it looks comprehensive? As usual, a prose c/e wouldn't go amiss if you'd have time and will for it :) TIA. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:21, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

I have completed copyediting the article.

Please review it carefully, including the battle box, as editing and translating inevitably involve interpretation of the text.

Thanks.

Nihil novi (talk) 08:26, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your English language help

This Wikiepedia does not accept my expertize and I do not see any other editor from Poland. Xx236 (talk) 07:30, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Glad to be of help.

I suggest that, rather than just provide a brief comment or a link to a Polish-language source, you prepare a quotation or a suitable text presenting the information, and send it to me here for translation into English.

It is too much to expect that anyone will himself read the linked source and find and digest the pertinent information for placement in the appropriate Wikipedia article.

Your near-unique ability to locate useful, reliable Polish-language information is valuable to Wikipedia.

Thanks.

Nihil novi (talk) 07:44, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

I am subject blocked.Xx236 (talk) 12:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hej

Jesli mozesz polish my english tutaj bylbym wdzieczny :) [9] --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:53, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Nihil novi (talk) 23:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Is this correct?

[10]. TIA :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:51, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

As User:Spinney Hill writes, in this context either "a shambles" or "in a shambles" is correct.

I'm not sure why "in a shambles should be correct. I suppose it's a matter of idiom, analogously to "a mess" and "in a mess".

I would swear that I've seen the expression "in shambles", but I gather that sticklers consider it incorrect, probably because – despite the "s" ending – the word is considered to be singular rather than plural. (Presumably, "in shambles" might be correct if it referred to more than one shambles.)

In the last couple of years, I've encountered the adjective "shambolic", as used in British House of Commons debates. I had never come across it before, and it's not listed in any of my dictionaries, UK or US.

P.S. Please note the difference between "though" and "through".  :)

Best, Nihil novi (talk) 11:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

The Concise Oxford Dictionary 1990 Edition lists "Shambolic", giving the definition as "chaotic,unorganised." It says it is a colloquial adjective "after symbolic." Incidentally the same dictionary gives "shambles" as colloquial for "a mess or muddle" and also givees the original meaning of slaughterhouse and a scene of carnage. It also gives an example of the words use: "The room was a shambles." Thinking about it I'm not sure "in a shambles" is correct but like you with "in shambles" I think I have seen it in print. Also incidentally two shambles would be spelt the same way with an s on the end. Shamble without an s on the end means a walk "with a shuffling gait." Hope this helps Spinney Hill (talk) 01:24, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for shedding light on this interesting quandary.

I find myself often reaching for dictionaries and thesauruses, to ensure the correctness, and increase the felicity, of what I write.

Best regards, Nihil novi (talk) 03:38, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks NN as always, your help with wiki-Enlish is always appreciated. Could you also take a look at [11]? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:36, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

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Excuse me, it seems I again misread the sentence...sorry for these mistakes! Thank you(KIENGIR (talk) 02:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC))

Help with GAN please

Hello Nihil novi. Would you be up for pushing the Jozef Retinger article to Good Article status? It could be getting close if the necessary references are inserted, especially in the building blocks section I have just translated from French Wiki. What do you say? Kind regards, --Po Mieczu (talk) 18:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Could you please clarify how I could help? Would you like me to copy-edit the article? Or insert your translations from the French (where are they now?)?

Thanks. Nihil novi (talk) 02:31, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your swift response. Probably a copyedit would be good, when you have time, as I miss things. My translation from the French is mainly in the Building blocks section. The French original was entirely free of references, so when I found sources, the translation had to be altered for verifiability. Kind regards and thanks, --Po Mieczu (talk) 18:54, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Hel

At User:Piotrus' request, I've copyedited "Battle of Hel". Nihil novi (talk) 07:22, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Poetry

At Paradisus Judaeorum the GA reviewer "forced me" to add a translation of the Latin poems. Which I did, mostly through machine translation, and the results are... pretty bad would be an understatement. If you want to despair a bit and see if anything there is salvageable, check it out. I'd rather not have such gibberish there at all, but I was "overruled". --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:20, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Ping User:Piotrus. Thanks for the challenge. I've tried my hand at retranslating the longest, 1606 version of "Paradisus Judaeorum". I think most of the lines are an improvement. Maybe someone can locate a more reliable published rendering; or maybe with time, by all our joint efforts, we will asymptotically approach a satisfactory rendering.

Nihil novi (talk) 10:36, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I have retranslated the first half of the 1664 version.

Nihil novi (talk) 11:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I have retranslated the first half of the 1685 version.

Nihil novi (talk) 22:06, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I have retranslated the first half of the 1708-9 version.

Nihil novi (talk) 22:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks for tackling this! Not our daily bread and butter type of a problem to fix :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:11, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it takes me back to my secondary-school Latin courses, which included translating Julius Caesar and his compatriots: I have mixed feelings, returning to my early teen years and to Latin after decades of far-flung geographical and scholarly excursions!

Nihil novi (talk) 05:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

I have retranslated the second halves of the 1664, 1685 and 1708 versions.

Nihil novi (talk) 09:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

I have completed a comprehensive copyedit of the entire Paradisus Judaeorum article.

I will welcome any questions or suggestions.

Nihil novi (talk) 08:51, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Copyedit

Hi NN, I added some information on Polish support for Jewish state in Palestine during interwar period[12].If you could copyedit it I would be grateful.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 15:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@MyMoloboaccount: I copyedited what appeared to be your additions to that article. As far as I could tell from internal evidence (repetitions of information), you unaccountably and confusingly placed your sources before your quotations. In some items, you omitted to provide the pagination. And in the last item of information, you gave two page ranges for your source. I hope I did not misunderstand your strange techniques, and that you can provide paginations and straighten out those final odd page ranges.

Otherwise, it's very interesting information – and might shed light on some of the current disputes involving the "Stanisław Kot" and "paradisus Judaeorum" articles. @Piotrus:

Nihil novi (talk) 08:10, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hi

As you are better at complex translations-could I ask if you perhaps can translate this quote? [13] --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 02:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Done 7 May 2020.

Nihil novi (talk) 08:27, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

For your recent copyedits and other help. As a token of my appreciation, I've decided to finally do my own c/e of Joseph Conrad, using the PSB entry I scanned a while back (send me an @ if you'd like to receive the scan files). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for both the article review and for the offer. I probably xeroxed the PSB article some time when I was in Poland. But I may get back to you about it.

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Done. Thank you.

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Hi

Perhaps you could polish my English [14] ;) I added some information to an article you edited earlier --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 23:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Done. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Nihil novi (talk) 03:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

pl:Literatura sowizdrzalska

Here's a fun one: how to translate this to English? :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Are you thinking of translating the Polish-Wikipedia article – or just its title?

The Polish-language genre arose as a ca. 1535 Polish translation of the original 1515 German-language chapbook recounting the adventures of the merry prankster Till Eulenspiegel.

According to Aleksander Brückner's Słownik etymologiczny języka polskiego, in my understanding the polonization of the character's surname (in German, formed from Eule, "owl" + Spiegel, "looking-glass", aka "mirror") to Sowizdrzał began as Sownociardłek (from sowa, "owl" + zwierciadło, "mirror"). But in the next, 1547 edition the overlong name was shortened to Sowizdrzał.

There were also early French and Czech translations of the German chapbook.

The character's outlandish German surname is derived by some scholar's from a play on words involving a scabrous German expression meaning, roughly, "Kiss my ass!"

So, how you would treat the Polish article's title, "Literatura sowizdrzalska", may depend on what you mean to do with it.

If you merely want to employ it adjectivally, you might consider "Eulenspiegelesque literature" (my neologism, so far as I know).

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Thank you. I believe I've now corrected the error.

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Please be more focused with "further reading"

Using a book review, rather than the book itself, might be a little too removed. Adding the same review with the same two quotes to multiple articles, especially economy just because the word is mentioned in one of the quotes, seems excessive. BiologicalMe (talk) 19:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Deletions from "Further reading" lists:

Jessica Riskin, the author of a New York Review of Books review that you deleted from several "Further reading" lists today, has some insightful things to say about the relations of science, scientific method, innovation, economies, and the effect of the Covid-19 pandemic on thinking about the earlier-mentioned. It might repay some readers' effort to read the book; the first step to that end is to bring the book to their attention.

Nihil novi (talk) 21:45, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I took the quote out at Logology (science), and restored the entry at Science without the quote. It's a good enough essay/review to link where it is closely related to the topic. I have a few problems with the selective quoting. It might be a little too timely. Most other entries don't have "previews". It needed too much formatting to make the excerpts fit together. Lastly, it's linked. As I said, focused. BiologicalMe (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

OOps, not linked (consitent with the other entries), but easily found. BiologicalMe (talk) 01:50, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

re: A Wikisource matter

I have started to review your translation. If there are no objections I will continue in a few days. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:39, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate your interest.

As I've mentioned, Prus' 1873 lecture anticipated by 50 years Florian Znaniecki's 1923 paper proposing the creation of a "science of knowledge" – what in a 1935 paper Maria Ossowska and Stanisław Ossowski would in English call, somewhat infelicitously, "the science of science". I understand that the latter 1935 paper, in English, made quite an impression in English-speaking academia.

I don't know whether there has been a joint review of these 3 papers. It occurs to me that the approaching hundredth anniversary of Znaniecki's paper, in 2023, might be an opportune moment for a note on the subject.

Prus' lecture is much shorter than Znaniecki's (which is some 80 pages long) and is more congenial to my own thinking.

Nihil novi (talk) 04:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Manual of style

Are you familiar with the manual of style, at all? Specifically, MOS: TITLEABSENTBOLD. And have you ever come across WP:VAND and WP:NOTVAND? If the answer is no to all three, then I'd be rather confused as to why you would not be familiar with the basic rules. If yes, to any of these, then the confusion is about why you would disruptively and completely falsely describe a simple, uncontroversial, necessary edit as vandalism, and damage the article by undoing that edit. Please account for your behaviour. 109.144.28.196 (talk) 19:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

What are you referring to?

Nihil novi (talk) 22:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

This, obviously. 109.144.214.199 (talk) 19:47, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, 109.

Someone had inadvisedly moved part of the "Joseph Conrad" article as a separate article, "Joseph Conrad's career at sea". It would have been awkward to start the new article's lead with "Joseph Conrad's career at sea". It would have been equally awkward not to provide readers with a prominent indication of who the article was about; hence the placement of Conrad's name in boldface. Exceptional situations sometimes require exceptional solutions.

Nihil novi (talk) 22:24, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

And several other editors clearly agreed with that assessment.

Nihil novi (talk) 22:29, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Disagreeing with my edit is one thing. Calling it vandalism is another thing entirely. You have not explained why you did that. MOS:TITLEABSENTBOLD describes why you were wrong to undo it at all, and even if it didn't, you are not permitted to describe good faith edits as vandalism. Do you understand that? 109.144.29.199 (talk) 20:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

In the light of explanation given above, your persistence in removing useful information did seem excessively destructive.

Apologies for hurting your feelings.

Nihil novi (talk) 22:33, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

You seem to no longer understand what we are discussing; your comment bears no relation to the situation. If you are unwilling to retract your false accusation of vandalism, I'll raise this matter at the administrators noticeboard. 109.144.16.210 (talk) 10:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

I reported your behaviour at the administrator's noticeboard. 109.144.18.252 (talk) 20:53, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

FYI the complaint was deleted by User:Future Perfect at Sunrise under WP:BKFIP edit summary. Perhaps he can explain this a bit more here, as it does seem to me like you are suddenly being trolled by a WP:LTA vandal. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:01, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Ping User:Piotrus: Many thanks!

I figured that this was troll behavior – which is why I gave up on attempting further communication.

I hope 109 will eventually find something constructive to do.

Best,

Nihil novi (talk) 02:54, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

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Deleted improvements and details in Article about Frédéric Chopin

Hi Nihil novi,

thank you for reviewing the improvements and specifications in the article about Frédéric Chopin. But I would like to ask you what were the reasons to remove them all.

1. I think it's quite relevant information whith whom Chopin lived together in Paris, as cited in the improvements he lived for years with Jan Matuszynski and Julian Fontana.

2. Why did you remove the caracterizing quotes from Chopins own hand, from his letters? Since they caracterize not only his style of writing but also his feelings and the relations between him and the addressees.

3. Why did you remove the pictures of personalities in Chopins live, which were obviously very important for him, as he writes himself in his letters. And as Fontana writes in his letters too.

4. That he wrote a waltz for Tytus Woyciechowski seems to be also quite relevant, if we see it in context with what he wrote about it in his letters.

5. As admitted by the Chopin Institue in Warsaw, there is no reliable proof at all for his "affairs" with Gladkowska or Wodzinska, as cited. The citation linked to these stories are more than 20 years old.

6. That there has been a debate for decades about if Chopin was gay, this probably should be shown to readers of an encyclopedia, or not? Especially because there are many indications for it in his own letters. The readers of an encyclopedia should bee able to see all the discourses to be able to build their own opinion, shouldn't they?

Best regards, --Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 08:57, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Your sources may require close examination. There have been other "correspondences" of Chopin's that turned out to be forgeries: see his "Letters to Delfina Potocka".

Nihil novi (talk) 21:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

The quotes can be read in polish online, as well as in printed translations, as cited. All the other information were well cited too before you deleted them. Do you agree if I ask for a third opinion on all that? Regards, --Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 15:07, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Please provide links to "the quotes... in Polish online".

Nihil novi (talk) 04:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

here you can find one letter, and from there you also can search and read all other letters. Just search for addressee, keywords etc. --Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 12:29, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I will ask for a third opinion. Do you agree?--Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 07:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

A third opinion about what?

Over recent weeks, about Chopin's alleged homosexuality, there have been many more opinions expressed, at "Talk:Chopin".

Nihil novi (talk) 20:03, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

third opinion about you deleting relevant information without good reasons. And not answering my questions. --Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 17:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

What is your evidence that Chopin wrote a waltz for Tytus Woyciechowski?

The community seems, on Talk:Chopin, to have concluded that there is no sustainable evidence of Chopin being gay.

What do you mean by "affairs" with Konstancja Gładkowska (he was infatuated with her) or Maria Wodzińska (who for a time was engaged to him)?

You have my blessing to add documented information about Chopin sharing Paris housing with Jan MatuszyńSki and Julian Fontana. Such information may have been present in earlier versions of the article.

Nihil novi (talk) 20:00, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

1. He sent it to Tytus along with the letter from 3.10.1829, indicating also a special passage in the trio part with a cross.

2. This is still being discussed

3. No evidence for all of that, as confirmend by the Chopin Institute Warsaw. See the quote here.

4. Good

For the rest, third opinion?--Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 00:27, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

1. As I recall, Chopin wrote Tytus Woyciechowski that the waltz had been inspired by "the person of his dreams". In the letter, he does not indicate who that person is.

3. You still haven't said what the "affairs" were supposed to have consisted in. We do know that Chopin was infatuated with Konstancja Gładkowska and that he became engaged to Maria Wodzińska.

I fear you may be barking up the wrong tree.

Nihil novi (talk) 08:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

“as I recall“, you say... well, I‘ll organize a third opinion.Best,--Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 10:52, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for the information, TransporterMan, I will consider the next steps as you suggested.

Nihil novi, you again deleted relevant information about Frédéric Chopins Life without good reasons, and you even agreed to these improvements in this very talk here. As a reminder: ‚You have my blessing to add documented information about Chopin sharing Paris housing with Jan MatuszyńSki and Julian Fontana. Such information may have been present in earlier versions of the article.‘ So: warning Nr. 1: Disruptive vandalism. Regards,--Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 13:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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Chopin

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Alan Walker's comment

Nihil novi, if you're adamant about quoting Walker in length, why are you so selective in your choice of words?[15][16] Clearly if we present the reader with Walker's opinion, we ought to do it in all its parts, lest we mislead the reader about Walker's opinions. François Robere (talk) 21:32, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

François Robere, you are the one who previously deleted, from the footnote, text that helped clarify the context of Chopin's correspondence – such as the fact that Woyciechowski was then 300 kilometers from Warsaw, and that therefore Chopin's letters were not billets-doux slipped under Woyciechowski's door in the Chopin-family boarding house.

Nihil novi (talk) 22:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't follow.

Why did you remove Walker's statements about Chopin's emotions? François Robere (talk) 22:34, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

The quotations in the footnote, including Walker's, speak adequately for themselves.

Nihil novi (talk) 22:48, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Do they really? Or are you afraid that exposing the reader to Walker's full comment - including the psycho-babble that reeks of internalized homophobia - might bias them against his seemingly objective reading, which you favor? François Robere (talk) 13:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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Corrected. Thank you.

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Clan Ostoja vs Clan of Ostoja

I have reverted your recent move of Clan of Ostoja to Clan Ostoja. The name with 'of' arose from a formal move request in September and passed unopposed (admittedly with only three !votes). If you feel that Clan Ostoja is indeed the appropriate name, then you should first garner an altered consensus via a new Requested move (though generally a 6-month wait, at a minimum, should pass before a new proposal trying to overturn a previous !vote). Agricolae (talk) 13:42, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

What sounds good in English?

Since you are my go-to for this question, see Talk:Gmina#Requested_move_7_December_2020. I wonder what is your preferred option here? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:42, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Henryk Rolirad

When you get a chance, do you mind reviewing and correcting this article, so it's written in proper English? I appreciate your help in these matters.. - GizzyCatBella🍁 09:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

GizzyCatBella –Done.

There are a few points in the article that need clarification. E.g., what is the connection between Henryk Rolirad's food-processing expertise (mentionend in the lead, and unexplained in the body) and his subsequent careers?

Nihil novi (talk) 07:04, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I’ll look at it later.. - GizzyCatBella🍁 06:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

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Many thanks! I've now corrected this.

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Bandera prison release

Could you take a look at this diff [17] I composed and adjust it if required? Thanks. - GizzyCatBella🍁 05:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

User:GizzyCatBella – Done. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks.

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Unfinished edit

Hey Nihil novi,

I found this while looking for something unrelated. Note the triple question marks ("???"), which are still in the text. Can you please check it? François Robere (talk) 23:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't see "???" in the link. Maybe paper blindness?

Sorry.

Nihil novi (talk) 00:07, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

At the very end of the right block: <ref>[[Yitshaq Ben-Ami]], "The Irgun and the Destruction of European Jewry", ''Perspectives on the Holocaust'', pp. 75-76.</ref> ??? pp. 71-91 ??? François Robere (talk) 19:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I have no recollection of what "??? pp. 71–91 ???" was about. Maybe there was some stray or contradictory pagination information present.

I have deleted it. If it yet proves useful, it can be appropriately reintroduced.

Thanks for noticing this mysterious information.

Nihil novi (talk) 21:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary 6

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Dear Gerda Arendt, thank you for the memmory!

May you stay safe through this plague year and beyond!

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Many of the past five months' advocacies for including, in the "Chopin" article, homosexual or bisexual interpretations of Chopin's sexual orientation – nearly two centuries after his penning of a few letters containing a few passages of unclear import, sometimes mistranslated from the Polish into English – have been redolent of a poor-quality gossip column. Such speculative matter would not serve well the world's Wikipedia readers who expect solid, substantial, meaningful information on a subject – especially from a Featured Article.

Indeed, it is a question whether, for some years now, it should have been a featured article, having for example been tendentiously censored of even the mention (only belatedly restored by Smerus on 30 March 2021) of Chopin's first known love, the teen opera soprano Konstancja Gładkowska, whose singing is thought to have contributed to inspiring Chopin's invention of important musical devices in his compositions.

Similarly, if not quite as radically, downplayed (and a little less so since I myself restored previously deleted information) has been the second known love of Chopin's life, his fiancée Maria Wodzińska, the talented teen portraitist who, according to Tad Szulc, painted the best portrait we have of Chopin, besides Delacroix's portrait which Chopin hated.

In lieu of genuine, indubitable aspects of Chopin's love life, we have been offered ersatz speculations – whose own authors acknowledge to be speculations – about a few passages, in a teen's private correspondence, lacking in adequate context for establishing their import.

Nihil novi (talk) 06:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Smerus/chopforrfc&oldid=996444169

"Might" is the past tense of "may".

Dictionary citation here:

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/might_1

Counsell:

Regarding usage in the "Enigma machine" article's lead:

"may even have altered [World War II's] outcome" means that "it may be the case that Enigma decryption altered the war's outcome." Which is perfectly correct.

On the other hand, to say that Enigma decryption might have altered the outcome means that, "under certain circumstances, it could have altered the outcome." Which is not the point of the sentence.

Nihil novi (talk) 09:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Your rephrasing is only correct because you have rephrased the original sentence to say something else entirely.

The question at hand is: Is it possible that decryption altered the course of the war AT THE TIME?

The answer is: It might indeed have done so.

The question at hand is *not*: Do we NOW believe that decryption altered the course of the war?

To which the answer is: Many believe that may be true.

You can see this by substituting the equivalents: can/could:

Could encryption have altered the course of the war?

It could have.

Can we make a case that encryption altered the course of the war?

We can.

Saying that encryption may have altered the course of the war is like saying encryption can have altered the course of the war, instead of encryption could have altered the course of the war.

Citation: https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/vs/may-vs-might-grammar-guidelines-in-simple-terms.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Counsell (talk • contribs) 15:40, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Speech is silver, silence is golden

This is a short article I wrote a few months ago you may enjoy reading. I just submitted it to GA, as I think there is not much else to write about this, and hence I think the article is pretty comprehensive. I'd appreciate your comments on whether you think this is indeed well rounded (and any c/e-s will be appreciated too). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Piotrus:

Interesting article!

I've copyedited it. Please especially check the "Origins and spread" section, paragraph 2, "clarification needed": Biblical Aramaic preceded written Arabic, so how could the proverb have entered Aramaic from Arabic?

Best, Nihil novi (talk) 00:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Nihil novi, I have done a c/e that I hope addresses your question: [18]. You are right, I think that phrase was incorrect. Rereading his argument, I think he says there are two different versions of the proverb, Aramaic (about shekles) and Arabic (about silver and gold), perhaps sharing the same unknown ancestor (but that's just speculation). The shekel version was in fact translated into English earlier, but, although he doesn't say it, the former is now forgotten and the latter reigns supreme. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:18, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Piotrus:

Thanks for the textual clarifications.

I've done further copyediting to make the distinctions between the two proverbs still clearer.

Nihil novi (talk) 09:39, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you.

I've now corrected the link, to "autocracy".

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Hello Nihil novi this is a message about translations!

I wanted to write my name in Japanese from English and also the letters of the alphabet, do you have any idea for the best way for this? for example when I google translate a name or a letter, it kind of screws me over with different meanings and such, all I wanted was to write my name and letters in a different language, but don't really know how. I am asking you this only because I saw you post on translations article, just hoping you could maybe have the answer, thankyou friend!

EzeeWiki, maybe you could get advice about your query from someone on this list: [19].

Another possible source: [20], section: "Translation from English to another language".

Best,

Nihil novi (talk) 08:32, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

thankyou friend! EzeeWiki (talk) 10:43, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Question about one colour in the Polish language

Itzhak Rosenberg: Piotrus seems to have it right.

The Polish "obszlega", derived I assume from the German "Aufschlag" (which means, among other things, "facing (on coat)", "lapel (of coat)", "cuff (on sleeve)", "turn-up (on trousers)" – which appears in the title of Piotrus' illustration (File:Aufschlag 8e regiment.JPG) – in the relevant Polish meaning is "wyłogi (facings) u munduru (on a uniform)". In related contexts, "wyłóg" (the singular form of the plural, "wyłogi") may mean "lapel, lappet; reverse".

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Nihil novi Your input is greatly appreciated! I had already encountered the French word ponceau while researching Napoleonic uniforms, and the immense similarity between it and ponsowy is more than sufficient to indeed ensure it is precisely that colour and not another. I'll save your comment on my sandbox for future reference :) --Itzhak Rosenberg 11:25, 14 June 2021

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Holland

Re [21]. I stubbed the en-wiki article on Henryk Holland and will try to expend it over next few days. Feel free to jump in and help out if you can - it would be much appreciated. Volunteer Marek 06:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Volunteer Marek, thank you for starting an English-Wikipedia article on Władysław Tatarkiewicz's nemesis-cum-benefactor, Henryk Holland.

For now, I've made a few cosmetic changes. For example, I like to directly link birth and death dates (I have a fetish about calculating the individual's age at death – a grim existential curiosity, since my teens, about potential human longevity).

Best,

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2013?

Err, why did you call 2014 to 2013 unhelpful here, reverting my edit? I think this is a correct change. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:35, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Piotrus, I reverted Laura's massacre of the article.

2013 may have been correct – I don't know, because I don't understand that point. You can correct it.

Likewise, if Laura's change to Grand Duchy of Krakow is correct, please correct to that as well.

But I don't think her changing "Polish-British" to "British" is correct, nor her deleting your extensive informative note.

Nihil novi (talk) 06:44, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Since he died in 1942, she is correct regarding 1943, not 1944, so I'd ask you to self-revert there (otherwise we are entering a WP:3RR territory... As for Grand Duchy, I posted on talk, it's a minor technicality that shouldn't be controversial, assuming sources are found. And yes, the main controversy seems to be about the nationality, and I likewise concur, just British is incorrect. How come an editor with just 10 edits stumbles upon such a controversy? Huh. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:48, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

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Joseph Conrad edit

Hi, why did you remove the commas after the dates (years)? I've been following the MOS:DATECOMMA instructions. --Funandtrvl (talk) 21:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

@Funandtrvl:, thank you for getting in touch.

In standard practice when writing English, an introductory phrase is followed by a comma only when the introductory phrase is long or when the comma is necessary to clarify the sentence's meaning.

The introductory phrases "In 1978" and "In 1975" are not long; nor does the absence of a comma, following them, cause confusion.

In such contexts, adding a comma can create a needless impression of choppiness. Especially if, farther along in the sentence, a comma does legitimately appear.

One of Wikipedia's style rules ("Wikipedia:Ignore all rules") recommends breaking a Wikipedia rule if that rule impedes the production of an informative and attractive text.

Best regards,

Nihil novi (talk) 22:45, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for the explanation. It's from my training back in HS English, and now the modern style is to not use as many commas, as I understand. But it's a hard habit to break! Funandtrvl (talk) 04:04, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@Funandtrvl: I have noticed the same minimalist tendency in punctuation, not only in regard to commas but, sometimes worse, in regard to hyphens. The latter are often dispensed with, to the detriment of clear understanding.

Such carelessness compounds writers' frequent failure to proofread, at all, a text for potential misinterpretations.

Best,

Nihil novi (talk) 05:15, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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Seven years!

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I just read our conversations over the years again, and I found delight, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Dear Gerda, it's truly a pleasure to hear again from a cordial and constructive individual who works to bring light, rather than heat, to Wikipedia and to the world !

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Fables and Parables

Hi Nihil novi,

This is just to let you know that I have responded to your message at Beleg Tâl's talk page on English Wikisource: s:User talk:Beleg Tâl#Fables and Parables. Xover (talk) 06:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Spelling Polish Clans

Greetings. I just wish to forward some thoughts regarding spelling Polish Clans and remind You of discussions since 2016 where You started with renamed art. about Ostoja without any posting on talk page or asking for other interpretation - Your change was according to best Polish scholars in subject just ridiculous. In this discusion I backed from "Clan of XXX" to Clan XXX because of response from most skilled scholars in Poland on subject. They said that all three names (XXX Clan, Clan XXX or Clan of XXX) are good but "Clan XXX" was the best option. So there is no dispute about how to spell between us.

However, two years later, I see that all Polish Clans except Ostoja was spelled "Clan of XXX". I did not take part of this consensus. I was then forced to rename to "Clan of Ostoja" to meet consensus and it was approved, signed by Wiki administrator. Then, You tryed to change again on 31th of December 2020 and that was same day reverted by another editor because on consensus that You disregarded. Then again, You changed in June 2022.

Note that if there is consensus, You can not change as You wish, its against Wiki policy and its disruptive editing that could on WP:AN be subject of blocking You. Once consensus is done, You can not change anything without starting new WP:RM and new discussion on subject. Then, if we now agree on that "Clan of XXX" is better without "of" then we also need to change all the other spelling in the category and also change in all art. that relate to the category. I can not start to change anything since I have to respect consensus. We then need to start new discussion how to spell Polish Clans again and there, if You wish to bring it on, I would support Your input - write to Piotrus. If you tell me that You will do all the work with changing Clan names (also category) and all the art related (hundreds) then I can also participate in the discussion. After consensus, You can change. Thats the way to go. Alternative is WP:AN and that I waste my time on this. Life is short, we all should try to cooperate but you can never do that with people that do not respect others or consensus. I know this kind of people and I really try to avoid them but if necessary, I will find time to make it right. I then kindly ask you to stop disregarding consensus and follow the rules on Wikipedia. Regards, Camdan (talk) 02:06, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

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Prometheism

If you want the article to look sloppy and crappy, that's on you but my edits were not vandalism. And don't ever leave another snarky message on my talkpage telling me to find something constructive to do.

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User:MurrayGreshler, deleting, without a valid reason, names of pertinent historic individuals given in referenced sources is inadmissible. "Trimming" the article is not a valid reason.

Nihil novi (talk) 21:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Pertinent? No known forename? No article?

Non-notables. MurrayGreshler (talk) 21:46, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

User:MurrayGreshler: Many is the time that partial information is retianed, with a view to completing it when further information becomes available. Analogously, terms are sometimes red-linked though there are not yet specific articles to link them to.

Please consider that you may not always be the best judge of what to keep and what to slash.

Nihil novi (talk) 23:36, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

You may enjoy

Other Songs (novel). Not so much my article here, but the book itself. Philosophy everywhere, one reviewer/scholar's nod towards Joseph Conrad, and btw, I do think Dukaj is the best Polish contemporay writer. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Agreed Enigma was a cipher not a code, but we talk about the 'codebreakers of Bletchley Park, not the cypherbreakers! Hugo999 (talk) 01:31, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, User:Hugo999, but calling a cipher a "code" is a distortion that oversimplifies reality for people ignorant of cryptology. David Kahn, author of the encyclopedic The Codebreakers, explains in great detail the difference between ciphers and codes. He adopted the expression "codebreakers" as a kind of shorthand, to keep the title brief and simple.

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There is no compelling necessity to call the Bletchley Park personnel "codebreakers", especially since what they mostly worked on were ciphers. They could readily be called cryptologists or – an unfavorite expression, to me, of William Friedman's – "cryptanalysts".

Another common confusion: a message's intended recipient "deciphers" or "decodes" it, as the case may be; a message's unintended recipient "decrypts" it.

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Precious anniversary 8

Precious

Eight years!

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Gerda, thanks for the memory; it's good to hear from you. On Wikipedia, a friendship is indeed something precious!

Nihil novi (talk) 08:48, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree! - Can't help smiling seeing that there's nihil novi for Chopin ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

"friendship" was my motto last year, but I add "resilience" this year, to broaden the smile --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Jan Kochanowski

When you'd have sometime, a copyediting pass of this article I recently expanded would be much welcome. Also, I am surprised how few in-depth English-language sources there are on him. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for the extensive copyedits at Gary Marcus. I swear English is my mothertongue, but you'd never know it with all the typos (despite proofreading). I'll take a look at Grammarly :) DFlhb (talk) 22:07, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

DFlhb, thank you for adding information to the "Gary Marcus" article – and for visiting here!

I was impressed by two Scientific American articles by Marcus – which I listed in his Wikipedia biography, and have used as sources in other Wikipedia articles and in publications elsewhere.

I share his skepticism about the "intelligence" of "artificial intelligence". (I've read that the term was coined only to discourage Norbert Wiener from attending a planned computer workshop!).

My hobbies include translating and editing. That makes me a bit obsessive-compulsive about things that others might not bother about.

I find congenial, George Orwell's advice on writing, in "Politics and the English Language".

Something I have been doing on Wikipedia is breaking up overlong paragraphs, especially in leads, to make the contents more "bite-sized" and thus more assimilable.

By the way, in Marcus' biography is it (in regard to privacy and security) a good idea to give his complete birthdate?

Thanks again!

Nihil novi (talk) 02:21, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I think his comments on AI are quite on point — I'll try to give readers a better idea of his specific arguments (and others' counterarguments), so they can come to their own opinions.

Orwell's essay is a masterpiece, and thanks for reminding me of it. I'll read it again.

Breaking up paragraphs isn't a bad idea. One thing I was planning to try, was to run my writing through the Hemingway app, to make sure it's clear and understandable to a large audience.

His birth date was something I was about to remove per WP:BLPPRIVACY, since I can't find converage in any reliable secondary source. Is that ok with you? DFlhb (talk) 10:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

DFlhb, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

It seems all right to give exact dates for deceased persons, but I tend to be wary of giving them for living ones. However, I'm open to other views.

"Artificial intelligence" is a useful tool, but is reliant on data submitted to it. True Artificial General Intelligence does not seem an imminent prospect and, as some have remarked, might raise ethical questions: how cavalierly may we treat a seemingly sentient, if artificial, being? The "Gary Marcus" article would indeed be enhanced by adding more arguments about these questions.

I see two advantages to splitting excessively long paragraphs (especially in a lead): it makes it easier to physically track the text and not lose one's place at the end of a line; and it makes the text clearer when there is a change of topic.

To increase the likelihood that a text of mine will be clear to others (as Marcus points out, nearly anything we say or write can be ambiguous), I find it helpful to look back on it after a time: by then my text is less familiar to me, and I often catch a point of unclarity. Re-viewing the text can, of course, be done after publication, if the medium (such as an electronic one) permits corrections. Where clarity and precision are especially crucial, it can be helpful to show the text to another person for comment.

Thanks!

Nihil novi (talk) 19:22, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Your wish is my command!

Greetings. It took a while, but I made a move on POSK, and it was nothing to do with Korea. Regards, Po Mieczu (talk) 10:27, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Po Mieczu!

Best,

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Three Bards and Cyprian Norwid

I have finished my work on those two topics, both of them are articles I'd like to see at Good Article level. If you'd have the time and will to copyedit them for English prose and like, I'd appreciate it. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

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Human history

Hey Nihil novi! Thank you for the information about the environment that you've been adding to the 21st century section. And for your awesome work on the article going all the way back to 2007! What worries me is that you added the information to sentences that have a source, but the information you added is not in the source. I humbly ask that you please add sources when you add content. Or put the new content in a separate sentence, so it is clear that it needs a source. Cerebellum (talk) 02:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

User:Cerebellum, many thanks for your kind reminder. At the time that I was adding the information, I felt too pressed for time to locate the sources. Please do let me know, if the text needs editing for clarity, or additional sources.

It's a pleasure working with such devoted and collegial fellow-editors!

Best, Nihil novi (talk) 04:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!! Looks great. --Cerebellum (talk) 09:58, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Fictional philosophy

Having recently created an article on fictional religion (and fictional music), with fictional economy on my to do list, I wonder if fictional philosophy would be doable as well. (note: not the same a scope as philosphy in fiction). Side note: have you read Other Songs (novel)? If not, I'd highly recommend it. I would like to think you'd enjoy it. Ice (Dukaj novel) too. Not sure which one you'd like more... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:26, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Intriguing idea, Piotr! I see your taste has been running to science fiction.

My own preoccupation these days is with nonfiction (which the uninformed or excessively optimistic insist on calling fiction) such as global warming and climate change.

In any case, at present my health is severely limiting my time at the computer.

I look forward to seeing more of your science-fiction-related articles, and Dukaj's works eventually.

Best, Nihil novi (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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Citation overkill

Please stop adding citation overkill, as in this edit. The purpose of citations is support verification of the content, not to provide a suggested reading list. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:01, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

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Władysław Umiński

My newest Good Article. Not the most famous writer, but an interesting persona nonetheless, somewhat forgotten. Perhaps you'd like to give it a read and a minor c/e as you go when you have time? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:34, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Józef Ignacy Kraszewski

I've finished expanding article about another classic Polish writer. If you would find the time and will to copyedit it, it will be greately appreciated, as always. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Kociewie

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United States sanctions

Hi, I came across this edit by you, which looks like a copy from Espionage#Further reading. If it's not then good, but if it is, then take a look at Copying within Wikipedia. Nobody (talk) 15:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

In fact, the edit on Espionage was also by @Nihil novi. The same block of text was later added to Paul Krugman (now reverted).
I had noted the addition to United States sanctions but didn't take action. It's been reverted by @Haha169. I agree with the revert. If you disagree I suggest you raise it on the sanctions article talk page.
Further reading is for citations to "publications that would help interested readers learn more about the article subject" (per MOS/Layout). Although I don't know there's a specific rule against lengthy FR entries that have lots of quoted text, it seems inconsistent with the purpose of that section. Put another way, if the material is relevant to readers of the article then it could be put in the article.
You may want to consider the reverts and this discussion as a signal the community isn't convinced this editing behavior is constructive. I'd encourage you to self-revert the change on Espionage but that's up to you for now. I might do it myself later, but I'd like to see what your response is. Oblivy (talk) 01:01, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, 1AmNobody24 and Oblivy.

I sometimes add, to Wikipedia "Further reading" sections, quotations that provide the gist of the article or book cited, to help readers decide whether it's worth their while tracking down the publication. (Its title is often uncommunicative.)

It sometimes seems to me readers of another Wikipedia article could also find the cited article or book of interest.

In any case, I'll bear your comments in mind.

Thank you!

Nihil novi (talk) 01:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Nine years!

It's heartwarming to read your annual messages. There's news now about Chopin, DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Dear Gerda, it's such a pleasure to hear from you -- a most welcome antidote to the ambitions, rivalries, and animosities ubiquitous at Wikipedia as elsewhere in this human-inhabited world. Nihil novi (talk) 07:13, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, replied on my talk - feels good! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

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Wikiproject

Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Gawęda, would you be interested in a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 22:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for noticing my "Gawęda" work, which I had forgotten about.

A project on oral tradition sounds interesting, if my time and sources will let me participate.

Please keep me informed!

Nihil novi (talk) 10:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

So far I've got 25 definites plus 5 interested but busy, you can see the proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council#New proposals, I'll ping everyone once it's created Kowal2701 (talk) 10:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

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Schazjmd (talk) 20:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia

Since this article is only editable by established editors, could I ask that you incorporate the following changes to the text that are more accurate: Change "The UPA's actions resulted in up to 100,000 deaths." to "The UPA's actions resulted in the death of around 100,000 Poles." Remove: "The ruling Germans also actively encouraged both Ukrainians and Poles to kill each other." and from section title remove"...and the Ukrainian anti-German uprising". The first statement is somewhat problematic because though the Germans might have instigated ethnic hatred on a lower level there is no evidence that they directly worked with UPA to organize the massacres, so this statement should not be included in the lead as it suggest the Germans were the co-organizers. Also, the second statement is problematic because UPA only operated in the Kresy region (now Western Ukraine) so this was not a Greater Ukrainian uprising and also its scope was very limited as UPA spent most of its time on attacking Poles and Soviet partisans. So, this is a very questionable claim especially to be used in a section title. 94.172.109.57 (talk) 17:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

I've made the article corrections that you suggested.

Nihil novi (talk) 08:39, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I was just reading the article since the issue has been in the news lately and I did notice these odd statement of linking anti-German Ukrainian insurgency with the killing of Poles. These are two complete different issues. --94.172.109.57 (talk) 09:53, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Nihil novi sorry for higlighiting another inconsistancy, but in the UPA article which also is protected, in the "Commemoration in Ukraine" section there is a picture of Ukrainian minority marching with UPA flags in Przemyśl, Poland. This old picture form 2007 should be removed. Not only it does not fit the text becasue Przemyśl is not in Ukraine and today the display of such symbols is illegal, its placement in that section is provocative and inflammatory. We should keep Wikipeida clear of such controversial edits. --94.172.109.57 (talk) 12:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this incongruous illustration to my attention.

I've deleted it.

Nihil novi (talk) 20:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, I've corrected the error.

Nihil novi (talk) 08:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)